Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
And G-man tries again to avoid what I actually posted thus I requote...

 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
 Originally Posted By: PJP
If they can't pass this with complete control of both houses of congress maybe it shouldn't be passed the way it stands now. Change it to reform health care for real and we will see.


Also if they don't pass this Obama will never get re-elected. He will be an impotent piece of shit fuck face who can't govern.



Wait he already is all those things.


If you think it's going to be a bad bill why would it help him to get re-elected? I suspect that the bill once passed will please most voters and that's what the GOP truly fears.


Note that I say that I suspect the bill will please voters. Those passing it want to be re-elected. Passing a bad bill that displeases the voters doesn't help them do that. I know that logic isn't beyond G-man's grasp yet he just can't help himself.


They also passed the bailouts, which wasn't very popular with voters.

This bill doesn't seem to do what needs to be done to fix our health insurance system, which is what this is really about and not health care itself. As I've said before, how is taxing and adding fees to the insurance and medical suppliers going to reduce costs? I agree that citizens need to have the ability to sue negligent doctors and hospitals, but good doctors and hospitals need to be protected from an overly litigious society that we've seem to have breed here in the US. Tort reform doesn't necessarily mean that we'd close the doors on malpractice suits. Just that you'd prevent overreaching judgments and/or scam lawsuits. Short of dumping all lawyers on a deserted island and having them fight for survival on pay-per-view specials.

whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules.
It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
This is true both in politics and on the internet."

Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."