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blackberry's standardized the modern notion of "smartphone"
...said notion is typically associated with devices where "phone calls" are not the primary use

Where I think we disagree is on whether "phone calls" are still the primary use for a "smartphone."

even people who own smartphones do so because they want a phone.

For example, an iPod touch is essentially the same device as an iPhone without the phone feature. Apps, etc., can be downloaded using the Wi-fi feature. If people had little use for the "phone" aspect of iPhone, why aren't more people buying the iPod touch and skipping the data plan?

my response is that the act of "communication" (which i feel is the priority) is the better definition of primary usage. phone calls are part of that; but just part. texting, emails, facebook status updates, photo sharing, trading high scores, video chat, etc. all rely on that data plan connection for "everywhere" use. an itouch can only do some of those things, and even then, can only do them with access to wifi - typically, at home.

Fair enough. But in my experience, if a device doesn't work as a basic phone then its data transmission is even worse.

that's what nowie originally noted, as well. my response to that is that phone calls require constant, good-or-better connections to be useful. emails, texts, status updates, etc, etc, require intermittent bursts, at best, to send and/or receive the data since, by nature, there's no steady stream required. bringing it all back to the original point, this is likely the reason why i think many iphone users wouldn't even notice potentially poor-er phone quality in the new one, since they've already largely written it off.

For example, an iPod touch is essentially the same device as an iPhone without the phone feature. Apps, etc., can be downloaded using the Wi-fi feature. If people had little use for the "phone" aspect of iPhone, why aren't more people buying the iPod touch and skipping the data plan?

KAMPHAUSEN!!!!




BE QUIET!!!!!!

http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/apple-deleting-mentions-of-consumer-reports-iphone-4-piece-on-f/


Cellphones
Apple deleting mentions of Consumer Reports' iPhone 4 piece on forums, can't delete your thoughts...or can they? In case Apple has somehow managed to perfect the art of selective disremembrance across a wide population, here's a refresher: Consumer Reports has thrown down the gauntlet, stating that it "can't recommend" the iPhone 4 until the antenna issues are fixed, issues that its labs and ours have verified quite substantially. Apple apparently isn't happy about that, and has taken to deleting threads about the Consumer Reports article from its support forums. Now, Apple deleting threads from its support forums is nothing new; outside of "regular" moderation, the company routinely deletes discussion of hardware flaws that it's not ready to 'fess up to, or just generally negative lines of thought about its products. Good thing the internet's a big place, and if Apple's not going to admit the antenna issue, there are plenty of ways to gripe about it. Feel free to express yourself in the comments below, for instance!

http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/apple-deleting-mentions-of-consumer-reports-iphone-4-piece-on-f/


Cellphones
Apple deleting mentions of Consumer Reports' iPhone 4 piece on forums, can't delete your thoughts...or can they? In case Apple has somehow managed to perfect the art of selective disremembrance across a wide population, here's a refresher: Consumer Reports has thrown down the gauntlet, stating that it "can't recommend" the iPhone 4 until the antenna issues are fixed, issues that its labs and ours have verified quite substantially. Apple apparently isn't happy about that, and has taken to deleting threads about the Consumer Reports article from its support forums. Now, Apple deleting threads from its support forums is nothing new; outside of "regular" moderation, the company routinely deletes discussion of hardware flaws that it's not ready to 'fess up to, or just generally negative lines of thought about its products. Good thing the internet's a big place, and if Apple's not going to admit the antenna issue, there are plenty of ways to gripe about it. Feel free to express yourself in the comments below, for instance!

Not much we didn't already know though I am psyched that the iPhone is getting the Netflix app soon. That was some good news!