RKMBs Forums .::Important::. Politics and Current Events CAUGHT ON TAPE: Former SEIU Official Reveals Secret Plan To Destroy Banks, Crash The Stock Market

A former official of one of the country's most-powerful unions, SEIU, has a secret plan to "destabilize" the country.

The plan is designed to destroy JP Morgan, nuke the stock market, and weaken Wall Street's grip on power, thus creating the conditions necessary for a redistribution of wealth and a change in government.

The former SEIU official, Stephen Lerner, spoke in a closed session at a Pace University forum last weekend.

The Blaze procured what appears to be a tape of Lerner's remarks. Many Americans will undoubtely sympathize with and support them. Still, the "destabilization" plan is startling in its specificity, especially coming so close on the heels of the financial crisis.

Lerner said that unions and community organizations are, for all intents and purposes, dead. The only way to achieve their goals, therefore--the redistribution of wealth and the return of "$17 trillion" stolen from the middle class by Wall Street--is to "destabilize the country."

Lerner's plan is to organize a mass, coordinated "strike" on mortgage, student loan, and local government debt payments--thus bringing the banks to the edge of insolvency and forcing them to renegotiate the terms of the loans. This destabilization and turmoil, Lerner hopes, will also crash the stock market, isolating the banking class and allowing for a transfer of power.

Lerner's plan starts by attacking JP Morgan Chase in early May, with demonstrations on Wall Street, protests at the annual shareholder meeting, and then calls for a coordinated mortgage strike.

Lerner also says explicitly that, although the attack will benefit labor unions, it cannot be seen as being organized by them. It must therefore be run by community organizations.

Lerner was ousted from SEIU last November, reportedly for spending millions of the union's dollars trying to pursue a plan like the one he details here. It is not clear what, if any, power and influence he currently wields. His main message--that Wall Street won the financial crisis, that inequality in this country is hitting record levels, and that there appears to be no other way to stop the trend--will almost certainly resonate.

A transcript of Lerner's full reported remarks is below, courtesy of The Blaze. We have heard the tape, but we have not independently verified that the voice is Lerner's. You can listen to the tape here.

Here are the key remarks:

I'm just so upset that the Black people have exposed the plan!

I'm not trolling here, just genuinely curious and not able to understand stuff. But what will people get when they attack banks? Wouldn't that hurt the little people in the long run?

I mean, here in our country there's currently a feud between Banco Filipino and Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas (it's a very complicated issue going back to the Marcos Era) but the main gist is that BSP declared BF to be insolvent, and ordered its closure.

What resulted from these is that the depositors of Banco Filipino (their clients are usually farmers, vendors from rural areas, and small businessmen) were unable to withdraw their deposits while the bank is on an indefinite bank holiday.

The bottomline is that the owners and executives of the bank are currently locked in a court battle with BSP, while the depositors are piling up in droves, knocking at closed bank doors, and basically unsure as to what will happen to their life savings (espcially right now, where money is needed for school tuition).

The PDIC (phil depositors insurance something) has stepped in but they are only able to reimburse up to 5 thousand pesos, which is stupid because people don't put amounts that small in banks.

There's also another subtle effect, as people have started withdrawing their deposits from banks that are otherwise healthy, out of fear that the same will happen to them. This resulted in some of the banks closing their ATM machines in order to stave off the withdrawals, which resulted in even more paranoia.

This is a good way to seperate the crazy conservatives from the normal ones.

Beck Warns About People "Collaps[ing] The System"
Beck: "Who In Their Right Mind Thinks Another Financial Crisis Is A Good Thing?" Describing comments made by Stephen Lerner, a speaker at a convention in New York, Beck said on his March 22 radio show, "it is in fact economic terrorism." He continued:

BECK: Now, what they will do is, they will cause these scare tactics, and they will force the banks -- according to this plan outline, you'll see it at TheBlaze.com -- they will force the banks to refinance all of the state loans, all of the county. And the banks will not be able to do it. And he says that's the plan -- to bring them to the edge of financial collapse, because if we can cause enough chaos, if we can bring them to the edge of financial collapse, we can collapse the system and we can cause another financial crisis.

Now, who in their right mind thinks another financial crisis is a good thing? And who thinks that this government is going to be able to survive? [Premiere Radio Networks, The Glenn Beck Program, 3/22/11]

But Beck Himself Has Repeatedly Said Our Economic "System" Needs To Be "Taken Down"
Beck: A "Depression" Is "Necessary" To "Reset" Or "Equalize" The "System"; "It Needs To Be Taken Down, And Then We Rebuild It Back Up." From Beck's radio show:

BECK: Your range of possibilities are, this is a recession that we're in right now, and it's going to turn around, and all of these things are going to fix it, and we're gonna be able to grow out of this massive debt. That's a possibility. I think the odds of that are unbelievably slim. I mean, it's not even worth -- for me, it's not even worth considering. But it might -- that might happen. It's on the scale of possibilities.

The next is, this is as good as it gets for a while, and it's going to just slowly drift kind of down over the next few years, but this is kind of where we're at. I think that's a possibility, but I don't think that lasts long. I think we're going to have times where it goes up, and then it comes back down, and goes back up, and then comes back down. But there is a point to where it will dawn on people, you know, in the banking sector, in the central banks around the world, in the people who loan us money that it is unsustainable, and it will change, and change rapidly.

Then you go into the next possibility, is a depression. Live like our grandparents. I would have told you a year ago -- in fact, I did -- that that is what we are headed for, and that is what is necessary to be able to reboot the system. The system -- not reboot, sorry -- to reset it, to equalize. There have been too many mistakes, and it needs to be taken down, and then we rebuild it back up. That's still a possibility. I think that's a growing possibility every day, the most likely and the safest of bets in my world, the way I look at things. [Premiere Radio Networks, The Glenn Beck Program, 12/10/09]

Beck: "I'm Telling You This System Will Never Work. ... Let It Come Down And Retool." From Beck's radio show:

BECK: There is a -- to everything, there is a season. This is the season for awakening. This is not the season for playing -- why are we depending on the same things that got us here? We're depending on parties. We're depending on the ballot box. We must be engaged in the ballot box. We must be engaged in politics. We must be engaged in watching our courts. We must be standing up for these things. But that is not the answer. That is not the answer.

Look at what we do every time. We treat the symptom. We've got to stop treating the symptom. We're taking aspirin. We're hemorrhaging. We're hemorrhaging. And we're treating that gash in the side of our neck or on our -- on an artery as if it's a flesh wound: "Here, let me put some Bactracin [sic] on it. Here, let me just put a Band-Aid on it. Take some aspirin." We're hemorrhaging. We have cut an artery.

We've got to go in and do the hard things. And that's on spending. We must do the hard things. And God bless you, America. God bless America. For 21 straight months -- 21 straight months -- you have lowered your debt. Now, the government doesn't like that because you're not spending money. And again for this system to work, you've got to spend money. But I'm telling you this system will never work. We're only delaying our death. Let it do what Coolidge did. Let it come down and retool. It led to the Roaring '20s. Cut it.

I understand. We -- are you telling me that we are less of the people than we were? And maybe the answer to this is yes. I don't think so. But are we less of the people than we were in 1920? Are we less of the people than we were in 1865? Are we less of the people than we were in 1776, 1791? Are we less American? Only if we choose to be.

Is this land less blessed than we've all been raised? Well, not all of us. Not the Marxists. Not almost everybody that works at the White House. Are we somehow or another less blessed as a land than we always have been? I think the answer to that one is yes. [Premiere Radio Networks, The Glenn Beck Program, 8/12/10]

Beck: "You're Going To Go Through A Tough Time First As The Economy Changes Over. ... We Need To Have That Bottoming-Out Period." From Beck's radio show:

BECK: Now, here's the real choice. The real choice is we can continue to buy these lies -- from the Republicans and the Democrats, because this is what I was looking for from George W. Bush, and he never did. Or you can listen to an adult, again what I was expecting. You can listen to an adult and have an adult tell you, "We're in trouble, gang. We are in real, deep trouble." And the longer we wait, the worse and the longer the recovery period is. If you take the pain, like we did in 1921, '22, you will create a period of real prosperity.

But it -- what happens is, you're going to go through a tough time first as the economy changes over. And we need to do that. We need to have that bottoming-out period, and then change us over. Let -- free up the entrepreneur, and they will create wealth.

But the longer we wait, the more businesses we drive out of this country, so the wealth is gone of -- the uber-wealth will be gone. The great minds will be gone. The American people will become trapped, because there will be no infrastructure left, because everything will go overseas. The medium amounts of money, the merely rich in this country, will lose their money, because their money will be confiscated from them by the federal government. It will be taken in higher and higher taxes. And so your entrepreneurs will be killed. All of the good ones, all of the big ones -- they'll go someplace else. They'll all go to Asia.

And what we'll be left with is nothing to rebuild. Nothing but our land. [Premiere Radio Networks, The Glenn Beck Program, 9/23/10]

Bsams wasn't able to read the first part of my last post apparently? I think both the former SEIU person and Beck are nuts when they talk about the system going down as being a good thing.

It's an economic coup. Much like when the communists took over Russia. You generally have people who have never worked a real job(Obama) and people that get rich off of other peoples work(union bosses) getting the common man in the street to believe someone took something from them by making them compete in an open market for their pay. The problem is as history has always proven, once the communists and socialists take control they merely imprison or bankrupt the rich and then take over the financial and commercial institutions of the country, and conditions get worse and worse for the workers even as the leaders live in luxury.

Lerner was ousted from SEIU last November, reportedly for spending millions of the union's dollars trying to pursue a plan like the one he details here. It is not clear what, if any, power and influence he currently wields.

Santa is real.

Make it stop!

Who broke bsams?

We seem to have multiple threads showing bsams doesn't understand who is and who isn't in a union.

Detective MEM and JLA, the title of this thread is "Former" the fact that it took you morons hours to figure out he was "former" by re-reading the article is hilarious enough.

The fact that this gives the SEIU a free pass in your minds is hilarious/tragic.