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DC books are all 2.99. I think half that is acceptable for a digital copy, ideally less.


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The part of me that's been hoping for DC to reboot to the beginning of the aughts wants to be angry over the lost opportunity. But the part of me that's jaded and totally unconcerned with whatever DC does at this point won't let me be angry.

This is a shitty move....But then again, that characterizes the past decade. So it really is especially pointless to care about it.

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DC should have done this years ago. Also do away with the Multi-verse. If later they want to restart the multi-verse ala flash of two worlds...great.

The old stories still exist...the past 15 years have hurt comics not helped with the constant reboots, re-imaginings and so on. Start fresh and stick to it..if you need to adapt ----whatever, if it isn't working.


My onlllllyyyyyy problem with this is---Geoff johns and Jim Lee?? Are they the right people to put your entire company's future, in print, in their hands? I doubt it.

I also do think this has absolutely everything to do with 2 of DC's properties. Superman and Wonder Woman. DC losing various rights to Superman and Wonder Woman just not clicking at all since Perez.

Batman will work no matter what they do with him....IMO. Hopefully, they take this opportunity to amp up Aquaman with some sort of water power and telekinesis as well.


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http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118007269?refCatId=13



Superman co-creator's family given rights
Siegels now control character's Krypton origins
By Marc Graser
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Warner Bros. and DC Comics have lost a little more control over the Man of Steel.

In an ongoing Federal court battle over Superman, Judge Stephen Larson ruled Wednesday that the family of the superhero's co-creator, Jerry Siegel, has "successfully recaptured" rights to additional works, including the first two weeks of the daily Superman newspaper comic-strips, as well as portions of early Action Comics and Superman comic-books.

The ruling is based on the court's finding that these were not "works-made-for-hire" under the Copyright Act.

This means the Siegels -- repped by Marc Toberoff of Toberoff & Associates -- now control depictions of Superman's origins from the planet Krypton, his parents Jor-El and Lora, Superman as the infant Kal-El, the launching of the infant Superman into space by his parents as Krypton explodes and his landing on Earth in a fiery crash.

The first Superman story was published in 1938 in Action Comics No. 1. For $130, Jerry Siegel and co-creator Joel Shuster signed a release in favor of DC's predecessor, Detective Comics, and a 1974 court decision ruled they signed away their copyrights forever.

In 2008, the same court order ruled on summary judgment that the Siegels had successfully recaptured (as of 1999) Siegel's copyright in Action Comics No. 1, giving them rights to the Superman character, including his costume, his alter-ego as reporter Clark Kent, the feisty reporter Lois Lane, their jobs at the Daily Planet newspaper working for a gruff editor, and the love triangle among Clark/Superman and Lois.

While ownership of the Man of Steel is one point of all this legal activity, the real issue is money and how much Warner Bros. and DC owe the Siegels from profits they collected from Superman since 1999, when the heirs' recapture of Siegel's copyright became effective.

DC owns other elements like Superman's ability to fly, the term kryptonite, the Lex Luthor and Jimmy Olsen characters, Superman's powers and expanded origins.

In a statement, Warner Bros. and DC said, "Warner and DC Comics are pleased that the court has affirmed that the vast majority of key elements associated with the Superman character that were developed after Action Comics No. 1 are not part of the copyrights that the plaintiffs have recaptured and therefore remain solely owned by DC Comics."

The Shuster estate originally did not participate with the Siegels' case because Shuster has no spouse or children. But his estate later won a ruling of a recapture identical to the Siegels, which will be effective in 2013. At that point, the Siegels and Shusters will own the entire copyright to Action Comics No. 1. That will give them the chance to set up Superman pics, TV shows and other projects at another studio.

If they want to get a new "Superman" or even "Justice League" pic featuring the superhero, Warner Bros. and DC will be forced to go into production by 2011.

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I imagine Warner Bros. is just going to nix Superman's civilian life altogether to get out of paying additional fees.

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 Originally Posted By: Rob
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Based on that JLA image, I'd guess "modern and diverse" will mean hypIng b-list minority characters like Cyborg.


that's not a fair statement - cyborg is the only b-lister in that group,


CBR reports that part of the new strategy is to graduate "three traditionally "B-list" heroes" to their own titles, one of whom is Mr Terrific.

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there are 52 titles! there will likely be dozens of b-list starring books - which really isn't a new direction.


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I dunno, I suppose these days it probably can't hurt DC to do something like this. They might lose some old readers but the industry has been doing that all along anyways. I'm down to really just the Legion book and while I'm not thrilled with yet another relaunch of the title I'll keep buying it. Something smaller might have worked better though. One Superman title, one Batman title and so forth with maybe a limit of 12 titles tops. At one time Marvel was forced by DC to something like half that and the company did very well during that period. A potential customer might be more interested in being able to collect a whole line if it was more financially attainable and easier to follow.


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Here's the cover to Nightwing #1 with art by Eddy Barrows.


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Swamp Thing #1 by Yannick Paquette.


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Catwoman #1 by Guillem March.


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Detective Comics #1 by Tony Daniel.


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Batman #1 by Greg Capullo.


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Birds of Prey #1 by Jesus Saiz


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Batman is like the Wolverine of DC.

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 Originally Posted By: allan1
Detective Comics #1 by Tony Daniel.
Daniel is writing a bat title right now. It's good and I'm guessing he can continue writing good bat stories.


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Birds of Prey #1 by Jesus Saiz
Who is the sword chick? Is it Katana from The Outsiders?


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It's Halle Berry

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Her titties aint big enough to be Halle.


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but is her voice black enough to be Halle?

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 Originally Posted By: Im Not Mister Mxyzptlk



Wow, Kon-El looks like a gay from the 80s.

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I think that comic is gonna be set in Earth 1993.


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 Originally Posted By: Im Not Mister Mxyzptlk
I think that comic is gonna be set in Earth 1993.

It's gonna be the "Poochy" of the relaunches.


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\:lol\: !!!

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I heard a very convoluted theory that the relaunch takes place right after Crisis On Infinite Earths.


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What do you mean? They don't reboot everything, JUST Post-Crisis?

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If I remember correctly the relaunch is earth 1 from when Crisis on Infinite Earths ended.


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I'm glad I quit comics (except Irredeemable)

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 Originally Posted By: Son of Mxy
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Wow, Kon-El looks like a gay from the 80s.

Nightwing looks like a gay tard. Who is the chick crawling on the ground? Troia?

Kid Flash and Raven look good.


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that's not Nightwing, that's Red Robin. no less gay looking, though.

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Kampy's in the ball park, too. Liefeld's drawing Hawk & Dove #1. yeah, that'll last. . .

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