Ah yes, Fascism alive and well in America. American citizens...forced to pay taxes...aren't allowed Freedom of Speech or Freedom to Protest. This is not America. It's a Police State run by corruption and controlled by the worst of humanity. I look forward to the revolution.
Originally Posted By: Prometheus
NYC authorities clearly feel OWS eviction is just and reasonable. That's why they are doing it at 2am and barring all press........
Originally Posted By: Prometheus
Quote:
BREAKING: Bloomberg served with temporary restraining order requiring reopening of Zuccotti Park to protesters at 7:50 a.m. | At 6:30 a.m. this morning, following a midnight police raid evicting protesters from Zuccotti Park, Justice Lucy Billings issued an order requiring the protesters to be readmitted to Zuccotti Park with their tents. ThinkProgress just spoke to one of the plantiff’s attorney’s, Gideon Orion Oliver, who confirmed that the order was served on Mayor Bloomberg and the other defendants via fax at 7:50 a.m. During his 8 a.m. press conference, Mayor Bloomberg seemed to acknowledge he was familiar with the temporary restraining order, but claimed he had not been served and was keeping the park closed. As of this writing, Zuccotti Park remains closed to protesters in direct contradiction of Justice Billing’s order.
Seems Bloomberg needs to be brought up on criminal charges. Court Orders aren't optional, even for the corrupt Corporate puppets...
I love how you can't find a FAUXNews video that proves they're "Fair & Balanced", but can easily throw-up their normal Right-wing propaganda machine....
I love how you can't back up the notion that Fox News (or the other sources I cited) are just "right wing propaganda".
It's factual beyond question that Soros, MoveOn, CodePink, SEIU and other liberal front groups are organizing these protests.
It's factual beyond question that these protests required massive organization to "just happen" simultaneously worldwide, that these liberal front groups provided.
It's factual beyond question (that two polls I posted demonstrate) that the major thrust of these protests is marxist/socialist/anti-capitalist, and even anti-American. With people defacating on police cars, violence against police and others, running around naked and having public sex and other assorted uncivil chaos that the Tea Party did not indulge in.
Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.
EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.
Ah yes, Fascism alive and well in America. American citizens...forced to pay taxes...aren't allowed Freedom of Speech or Freedom to Protest. This is not America. It's a Police State run by corruption and controlled by the worst of humanity. I look forward to the revolution.
Originally Posted By: Prometheus
NYC authorities clearly feel OWS eviction is just and reasonable. That's why they are doing it at 2am and barring all press........
Originally Posted By: Prometheus
Quote:
BREAKING: Bloomberg served with temporary restraining order requiring reopening of Zuccotti Park to protesters at 7:50 a.m. | At 6:30 a.m. this morning, following a midnight police raid evicting protesters from Zuccotti Park, Justice Lucy Billings issued an order requiring the protesters to be readmitted to Zuccotti Park with their tents. ThinkProgress just spoke to one of the plantiff’s attorney’s, Gideon Orion Oliver, who confirmed that the order was served on Mayor Bloomberg and the other defendants via fax at 7:50 a.m. During his 8 a.m. press conference, Mayor Bloomberg seemed to acknowledge he was familiar with the temporary restraining order, but claimed he had not been served and was keeping the park closed. As of this writing, Zuccotti Park remains closed to protesters in direct contradiction of Justice Billing’s order.
Seems Bloomberg needs to be brought up on criminal charges. Court Orders aren't optional, even for the corrupt Corporate puppets...
Critics of Occupy Wall Street have a transparent objective: They want to persuade blue collar whites and ordinary middle class Americans to turn on the movement for cultural reasons — because its optics offend these voters’ cultural instincts — even if they broadly agree with its general principles and critique of what’s gone wrong.
“The greatest hoax of the last couple of decades has been the ability of the right wing to co-opt members of the struggling lower middle class and lower class and pretend they speak for them while enacting policies that enable the super-rich. They’ve used wedge issues like gay marriage and abortion and the baby Jeebus to alienate folks from their own economic interests, feeding them a steady diet of hatred of minorites, the educated, science, and, well, reality to create a voting block of people so guided by hatred of the ‘other’ that they would crawl over broken glass to cut their nose off to spite their face.”
Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.
EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.
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Ah yes, Fascism alive and well in America. American citizens...forced to pay taxes...aren't allowed Freedom of Speech or Freedom to Protest. This is not America. It's a Police State run by corruption and controlled by the worst of humanity. I look forward to the revolution.
Originally Posted By: Prometheus
NYC authorities clearly feel OWS eviction is just and reasonable. That's why they are doing it at 2am and barring all press........
Originally Posted By: Prometheus
Quote:
BREAKING: Bloomberg served with temporary restraining order requiring reopening of Zuccotti Park to protesters at 7:50 a.m. | At 6:30 a.m. this morning, following a midnight police raid evicting protesters from Zuccotti Park, Justice Lucy Billings issued an order requiring the protesters to be readmitted to Zuccotti Park with their tents. ThinkProgress just spoke to one of the plantiff’s attorney’s, Gideon Orion Oliver, who confirmed that the order was served on Mayor Bloomberg and the other defendants via fax at 7:50 a.m. During his 8 a.m. press conference, Mayor Bloomberg seemed to acknowledge he was familiar with the temporary restraining order, but claimed he had not been served and was keeping the park closed. As of this writing, Zuccotti Park remains closed to protesters in direct contradiction of Justice Billing’s order.
Seems Bloomberg needs to be brought up on criminal charges. Court Orders aren't optional, even for the corrupt Corporate puppets...
Critics of Occupy Wall Street have a transparent objective: They want to persuade blue collar whites and ordinary middle class Americans to turn on the movement for cultural reasons — because its optics offend these voters’ cultural instincts — even if they broadly agree with its general principles and critique of what’s gone wrong.
“The greatest hoax of the last couple of decades has been the ability of the right wing to co-opt members of the struggling lower middle class and lower class and pretend they speak for them while enacting policies that enable the super-rich. They’ve used wedge issues like gay marriage and abortion and the baby Jeebus to alienate folks from their own economic interests, feeding them a steady diet of hatred of minorites, the educated, science, and, well, reality to create a voting block of people so guided by hatred of the ‘other’ that they would crawl over broken glass to cut their nose off to spite their face.”
Just in case anyone doesn't know what David's championing here, let me show you.
He wants workers all over the world to stop complaining and allow Corporations to do what they want. As evidenced by the Occupy Australia crew. He also wants any American who has any type of civil or social complaint against his country to be killed or locked-up for being "Liberal Scum". Even American Soldiers and Veterans. He doesn't respect their Rights unless they're killing people of a different skin color. Then, they're "heroes". Now, keep in mind, if the "Tea Party" wants to protest, that's okay though. They should be allowed to protest and make racial death threats against our President. THAT'S the world David the Wonder BOY wants. Anyone who agrees, jump on board with him...
Originally Posted By: Prometheus
The protestor, Veteran of the Iraq war and Marine Scott Olsen, was standing still when shot, unprovoked, in the head with a teargas canister. He is currently in the hospital in a coma, and has a very real chance of dying from his injuries. This man made it safely thorough a war, to be struck down by a fellow American. I hope all those that stand against The Global Occupy Movement are proud of yourselves, and of your law enforcement. This makes me sick, and so does anyone who thinks this is acceptable behavior by the Police. There's no other way to spin it. It is exactly what it is.
Oh, and I dare anyone to scream "Olbermann!" I could give a shit who's on the screen. The facts are still facts.
Originally Posted By: Prometheus
Originally Posted By: The Shills
DIRTY HIPPIES!! How dare they worry about their homes and families! Don't they know these corporations are JOB CREATORS!!
Critics of Occupy Wall Street have a transparent objective: They want to persuade blue collar whites and ordinary middle class Americans to turn on the movement for cultural reasons — because its optics offend these voters’ cultural instincts — even if they broadly agree with its general principles and critique of what’s gone wrong.
“The greatest hoax of the last couple of decades has been the ability of the right wing to co-opt members of the struggling lower middle class and lower class and pretend they speak for them while enacting policies that enable the super-rich. They’ve used wedge issues like gay marriage and abortion and the baby Jeebus to alienate folks from their own economic interests, feeding them a steady diet of hatred of minorites, the educated, science, and, well, reality to create a voting block of people so guided by hatred of the ‘other’ that they would crawl over broken glass to cut their nose off to spite their face.”
Associated Press, guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 26 October 2011
Hundreds of police swept into Oakland's Occupy Wall Street protest on Tuesday, firing teargas and beanbag rounds before clearing out an encampment of demonstrators.
In less than an hour, the 2-week-old, miniature makeshift city was in ruins.
Scattered across the plaza in front of City Hall were overturned tents, pillows, sleeping bags, yoga mats, tarps, backpacks, food wrappers and water bottles. Signs decrying corporations and police still hung from lampposts or lay on the ground.
Later on Tuesday, hundreds of protesters gathered at a library and marched through downtown Oakland. They were met by police officers in riot gear, and several small skirmishes broke out.
The protesters eventually made their way back to City Hall for a game of cat-and-mouse as dusk approached. Police later threw flash bang canisters and fired more teargas as the crowd dispersed up the street.
"It's really, really tense and I think the cops are trying to walk a fine line, but I don't think they are going to back down and neither are the demonstrators," said Cat Brooks, an organiser. "We're on the move. For now."
No one was injured during the Tuesday morning raid, Interim Oakland Police Chief Howard Jordan said. The plaza was "contained" at around 5.30am, city officials said.
Protesters had stayed awake through the night, waiting for the expected raid. Officers and sheriff's deputies from across the San Francisco Bay area surrounded the plaza at around 5am and closed in. Eighty-five people were arrested, mostly on suspicion of misdemeanor unlawful assembly and illegal camping, police said.
By midmorning, city workers had started collecting the debris. Some would be held for protesters to reclaim, the rest would be thrown away, the city said.
The Oakland site was among numerous camps that have sprung up around the country, as protesters rally against what they see as corporate greed. The protests have attracted a wide range of people, including college students looking for work and the homeless.
In Oakland, tensions between the city and protesters escalated last week as officials complained about what they described as deteriorating safety, sanitation and health issues at the site.
City officials had originally been supportive of protesters, with Oakland Mayor Jean Quan saying that sometimes "democracy is messy".
But the city later warned the protesters that they were breaking the law and could not stay in the encampment overnight. They cited concerns about rats, fire hazards, public urination and acts of violence at the site, which had grown to more than 150 tents and included areas for health care, child care and cooking.
"Many Oaklanders support the goals of the national Occupy Wall Street movement," Quan said in a statement on Tuesday. "However, over the last week it was apparent that neither the demonstrators nor the City could maintain safe or sanitary conditions or control the ongoing vandalism."
There were reports of a sex assault and a severe beating and fire and paramedics were denied access to the camp, according to city officials, who said they had also received numerous complaints of intimidating and threatening behaviour.
Protesters disputed the city's claims about conditions at the camp. They said the protest was dominated by a spirit of co-operation that helped keep the site clean and allowed disputes to be resolved peacefully.
Lauren Richardson, a 24-year-old student from Oakland, complained that the dishevelled state of the camp following the police raid gave a false impression. She said volunteers collected garbage and recycling every six hours, that water was boiled before being used to wash dishes and that rats had infested the park long before the camp went up.
"It was very neat. It was very organised," Richardson said.
Volunteers at the medical tent erected on the site said paramedics had not been kept away.
On Thursday, the city ordered the protesters to vacate, though they did not set a deadline. Protesters said the number of people at the camp had dwindled since the city posted the letter, while those who remained understood they would likely face a confrontation with police.
So even a city as hippie-friendly and initially supportive of the OWS as peace-love-and-granola Oakland, CA finally felt a need to give these folks the heave-ho with a few cannisters of tear gas.
The "misrepresentation" of "peaceful" demonstration is clearly contradicted by the reported facts, even in this sympathetic piece, as it is reported they re-grouped tried to make reprisals that were put down by riot police.
I actually had some trouble finding this to post. Probably because the American media who are probably all wearing Occupy Wall Street buttons simply don't want to report it.
Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.
EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.
Ah yes, Fascism alive and well in America. American citizens...forced to pay taxes...aren't allowed Freedom of Speech or Freedom to Protest. This is not America. It's a Police State run by corruption and controlled by the worst of humanity. I look forward to the revolution.
Originally Posted By: Prometheus
NYC authorities clearly feel OWS eviction is just and reasonable. That's why they are doing it at 2am and barring all press........
Originally Posted By: Prometheus
Quote:
BREAKING: Bloomberg served with temporary restraining order requiring reopening of Zuccotti Park to protesters at 7:50 a.m. | At 6:30 a.m. this morning, following a midnight police raid evicting protesters from Zuccotti Park, Justice Lucy Billings issued an order requiring the protesters to be readmitted to Zuccotti Park with their tents. ThinkProgress just spoke to one of the plantiff’s attorney’s, Gideon Orion Oliver, who confirmed that the order was served on Mayor Bloomberg and the other defendants via fax at 7:50 a.m. During his 8 a.m. press conference, Mayor Bloomberg seemed to acknowledge he was familiar with the temporary restraining order, but claimed he had not been served and was keeping the park closed. As of this writing, Zuccotti Park remains closed to protesters in direct contradiction of Justice Billing’s order.
Seems Bloomberg needs to be brought up on criminal charges. Court Orders aren't optional, even for the corrupt Corporate puppets...
Critics of Occupy Wall Street have a transparent objective: They want to persuade blue collar whites and ordinary middle class Americans to turn on the movement for cultural reasons — because its optics offend these voters’ cultural instincts — even if they broadly agree with its general principles and critique of what’s gone wrong.
“The greatest hoax of the last couple of decades has been the ability of the right wing to co-opt members of the struggling lower middle class and lower class and pretend they speak for them while enacting policies that enable the super-rich. They’ve used wedge issues like gay marriage and abortion and the baby Jeebus to alienate folks from their own economic interests, feeding them a steady diet of hatred of minorites, the educated, science, and, well, reality to create a voting block of people so guided by hatred of the ‘other’ that they would crawl over broken glass to cut their nose off to spite their face.”
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Those that want to engage in violence at this point are complete idiots. We are no where near the point of corporatism, fascism, tyranny, or whatever you want to call it where armed resistance is required. Don’t get me wrong, I’d be more than happy to water The Tree of Liberty if needed to. I just think that most of our current problems could be remedied without it at this point.
I don’t think we are really too far off on this. It is just a matter of how we see it. You see it as something we are heading towards. I see it as something that is already lurking beneath the s
I see a few people among the Occupy Wall Street protestors who make legitimate points about the corruptness of the system.
Again: I think Tim Carney in his book OBAMANOMICS makes the best and most comprehensive case. Against the revolving door between government and lobbyists, and how they make money working on both sides of the government/private-sector fence.
The OWS protestors are mono-focused on corporations, and not on the corrupt government officials they are donating to. My concern is that OWS protestors are inadvertantly flying cover for government corruption by giving a free pass to the politicians who take the money, and making a disproportionate scapegoat of Wall Street investment firms.
Why do they give disproportionate anger to Wall Street wealthy, while giving a free pass to groups like G.E., Pfizer, and the large HMO's. And the benefit from political donations to Chris Dodd, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, Barney Frank and Barack Obama, all of whom took cash from Fannie/Freddie and enabled the financial collapse, obstructing any obstacle to easy mortgage loans, calling Fannie/Freddie a "sound investment" right up to the day of its collapse? Why aren't they protesting in front of these people's homes and offices? Why aren't they striking in front of G.E. and Pfizer, who have benefitted in the tens of millions from Obama's crony capitalism? Why is it only from conservative news sources, and not from the Wall Street protestors, that you hear it exposed that Wall Street firms were the largest contributer to getting Obama elected in 2008?
Instead they are shouting slogans in angry mobs in front of Rupert Murdoch's New York home. That seems to me to be a different and more partisan agenda than striking against corrupt abuses of the financial system.
I assume the "tree of Liberty" you refer to is Jefferson's statement that it periodically needs to be watered with the blood of patriots.
I agree that the system is not broken enough that anyone should be calling for violent revolution. That's why I support the Tea Party more, because they have unquestionably made their agenda one that must be pursued within the rule of law. They are not calling for anyone to be killed, or carrying movie-prop heads in implied guillotine fate for "the rich".
The Tea Party it could be argued is too focused on government corruption, and not giving enough mention to the corporate lobbyist part of the equation. The Occupy Wall Street protestors give more emphasis to corporate lobbyist influence and profit, and not giving enough (if any) mention of the necessary government part of the equation to enable corporate profits. Rham Emmanuel, Tim Geithner, Chris Dodd, and Barack Obama himself are prime examples of the pay-to-play system, where donations get corporations the state-selected contracts, corporate welfare and monopolies from our political leaders, both Democrat and Republican. Ironic that Obama, who campaigned as a reformer, has fed and more vastly expanded this system, more so than any other politician.
Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.
EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.
Interesting that you hypocritically cut-and-pasted this, Pro.
Since you pathologically contribute daily to the "divide" portion of this graphic, as you partisanly rant endlessly about the evils of Republican-conservatives.
I'm sorry that picture offends you, David. It must be the "common sense" portion of it that frightens you so. Or, maybe you just don't understand it? A bit over your head?
The image does not offend me, Pro.
Sure it does! Otherwise you wouldn't have bothered responding to it, when it wasn't directed at you at all. You chose its importance to you, so therefore it must have offended you enough to force a response?
OR: is it just because I posted it?
Quote:
You whine about the partisan divide, and then you rail on conservatives and Fox News daily.
I rail on FAUXNews daily, which is symptomatic of a corrupt Republican base, just like the Dems and MSNBC. The only difference is, MSNBC and the like don't try and pretend they're anything but Liberally-slanted media. FAUXNews, on the other hand, has all the rednecks fooled.
So, what does that picture have to do with anti-Conservative/FAUXNews Partisanship? OH! It's because you saw me post it and assumed it must automatically be anti-Conservative? Or, is it because you believe, deep down, that they are the ones causing the great divide?
Either way, the fantasy you face right now is your own. That picture speaks volumes. It's exactly what's wrong with American politics and society. But, if you want it to be "anti-FAUX" or whatever, you go ahead. The actual point remains either way...
Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy
I'm done with you.
You're an idiot, Pro.
I could not possibly be more clear. The image does not offend me. What offends me is your hypocrisy in posting it. You claim to be neutral and condemn MSNBC and other far-left media, but in post after post, topic after topic, you clearly are the liberal indoctrinated, and pretend to be a moderate you're clearly not.
Your opinion on gay issues. Where someone who doesn't agree with your position is not simply a person you respectfully disagree with. No, they're neanderthal. They're evil! They're unfit to be part of civilization and should be denied any voice.
Likewise your opinion cheering on revolution in the Occupy Wall Street topic. Anyone who doesn't agree with your highly opinionated version of the facts is a corporate dupe, a Republican shill, EVIL, I tell you, EVIL!! Meanwhile, you're the one who cheers on leftist/marxist violence, and then backpedalled from that zeal when you were called on it.
And needless to say, your opinion of our military in uniform is so insulting and vile that any number of them would beat you to death on the spot if they knew what you said behind their backs on these boards.
You are one fucking piece of work, Pro.
And so it is with anyone who disagrees with your opinion of Fox News. DESPITE THAT YOU NEVER EVEN WATCH IT, to know one way or the other what Fox actually reports.
So, basically.... you're a very opinionated intolerant liberal jerk, who lives for the opportunity to slander and mock people and beliefs you never bothered to even try to understand.
The only way you can go on rationalizing what you believe is just to put your blinders on and blanket-stereotype people who don't share your view of how the world works.
Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.
EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.
Ah yes, Fascism alive and well in America. American citizens...forced to pay taxes...aren't allowed Freedom of Speech or Freedom to Protest. This is not America. It's a Police State run by corruption and controlled by the worst of humanity. I look forward to the revolution.
Originally Posted By: Prometheus
NYC authorities clearly feel OWS eviction is just and reasonable. That's why they are doing it at 2am and barring all press........
Originally Posted By: Prometheus
Quote:
BREAKING: Bloomberg served with temporary restraining order requiring reopening of Zuccotti Park to protesters at 7:50 a.m. | At 6:30 a.m. this morning, following a midnight police raid evicting protesters from Zuccotti Park, Justice Lucy Billings issued an order requiring the protesters to be readmitted to Zuccotti Park with their tents. ThinkProgress just spoke to one of the plantiff’s attorney’s, Gideon Orion Oliver, who confirmed that the order was served on Mayor Bloomberg and the other defendants via fax at 7:50 a.m. During his 8 a.m. press conference, Mayor Bloomberg seemed to acknowledge he was familiar with the temporary restraining order, but claimed he had not been served and was keeping the park closed. As of this writing, Zuccotti Park remains closed to protesters in direct contradiction of Justice Billing’s order.
Seems Bloomberg needs to be brought up on criminal charges. Court Orders aren't optional, even for the corrupt Corporate puppets...
Critics of Occupy Wall Street have a transparent objective: They want to persuade blue collar whites and ordinary middle class Americans to turn on the movement for cultural reasons — because its optics offend these voters’ cultural instincts — even if they broadly agree with its general principles and critique of what’s gone wrong.
“The greatest hoax of the last couple of decades has been the ability of the right wing to co-opt members of the struggling lower middle class and lower class and pretend they speak for them while enacting policies that enable the super-rich. They’ve used wedge issues like gay marriage and abortion and the baby Jeebus to alienate folks from their own economic interests, feeding them a steady diet of hatred of minorites, the educated, science, and, well, reality to create a voting block of people so guided by hatred of the ‘other’ that they would crawl over broken glass to cut their nose off to spite their face.”
Interesting that you hypocritically cut-and-pasted this, Pro.
Since you pathologically contribute daily to the "divide" portion of this graphic, as you partisanly rant endlessly about the evils of Republican-conservatives.
I'm sorry that picture offends you, David. It must be the "common sense" portion of it that frightens you so. Or, maybe you just don't understand it? A bit over your head?
The image does not offend me, Pro.
Sure it does! Otherwise you wouldn't have bothered responding to it, when it wasn't directed at you at all. You chose its importance to you, so therefore it must have offended you enough to force a response?
OR: is it just because I posted it?
Quote:
You whine about the partisan divide, and then you rail on conservatives and Fox News daily.
I rail on FAUXNews daily, which is symptomatic of a corrupt Republican base, just like the Dems and MSNBC. The only difference is, MSNBC and the like don't try and pretend they're anything but Liberally-slanted media. FAUXNews, on the other hand, has all the rednecks fooled.
So, what does that picture have to do with anti-Conservative/FAUXNews Partisanship? OH! It's because you saw me post it and assumed it must automatically be anti-Conservative? Or, is it because you believe, deep down, that they are the ones causing the great divide?
Either way, the fantasy you face right now is your own. That picture speaks volumes. It's exactly what's wrong with American politics and society. But, if you want it to be "anti-FAUX" or whatever, you go ahead. The actual point remains either way...
Police shooting an unarmed Iraq vet in the face...
"Veterans for Peace member Scott Olsen was wounded by a less-lethal round fired by either San Francisco Sheriffs deputies or Palo Alto Police on October 25, 2011 at 14th Street and Broadway in Downtown Oakland"
So they allow Westboro Baptist Church to protest military funerals, rally at Virginia Tech to support the killing of 32 innocents, and have hate speech against gays because they have first amendment rights, but American's can't protest Wall St. without getting teargassed?
Ah yes, the support of Police brutality against American citizens continues to come from the Rightwing hatemongers like Pussy-Brian. Meanwhile, like the article that Wondy posted proves without a doubt, the corporate-controlled Police are being told to physically abuse and attack their own citizens. Any spin otherwise just shows a base level of ignorance and a willingness to justify immoral practices to serve a greedy few.
Oh and Doc? There's your Weaponized Tear Gas...
The sympathetic pro-OWS mayor finally had to respond because of multiple complaints, and emergency medical service couldn't get through the chaos to treat people who called for an ambulance. The city told the OWS protestors to leave, and posted an order well in advance. All but about 200 protestors left. The rest were non-violently forced to leave --as they were warned in advance to-- with non-lethal tear gas. And the "peaceful" demonstrators instead of leaving re-grouped to attack the police! At which point they were rightly arrested.
No ambushes, no police brutality, clear warning given, and not heeded by the small group of protestors who pushed it too far. Against a mayor who was clearly sympathetic to them, no less.
Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.
EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.
The protestor, Veteran of the Iraq war and Marine Scott Olsen, was standing still when shot, unprovoked, in the head with a teargas canister. He is currently in the hospital in a coma, and has a very real chance of dying from his injuries. This man made it safely thorough a war, to be struck down by a fellow American. I hope all those that stand against The Global Occupy Movement are proud of yourselves, and of your law enforcement. This makes me sick, and so does anyone who thinks this is acceptable behavior by the Police. There's no other way to spin it. It is exactly what it is.
[snip-out of Youtube leftist propaganda and Keith Olbermann liberal wank material]
Yes, yes.
We all know what a high opinion you have of our soldiers.
Originally Posted By: Prometheus, post # 1161546 - 10/08/11 12:54 PM
Originally Posted By: MisterJLA
Originally Posted By: Prometheus
Agreed. At least transgenders are honest about who they are, instead of hiding behind their insecurities like you describe...
Exactly. They can't have self-loathing issues, either, since they embrace their nature.
Quoting the article again:
"But Tobin disagreed, citing countries such as the United Kingdom, Canada, and Australia, which have or are in the process of accommodating transgender military members."
Three of our best allies are accepting of their transgender military members, but we are not?
JLA, the American military system...mainly the Army & Marines...is setup to accommodate those with little will of their own. These are people who needed to be given instructions in life, because they lack the natural discipline to function as successful, normal adults in the real world.
Transgenders, homosexuals...these are people who have had to take a very deep look at their life and come to grips with who they are, and not necessarily what society wants them to be. Thus, they already come prepared with a strong foundation of willpower and self-awareness.
People like that are that much harder to brainwash or temper with propaganda. The military does not like people like this because if they're thinking with their own mind, and not allowing others to control them, then such people aren't as easily controlled as the rest of the slack-jawed yokels or insecure emo kids. They might actually question why they're killing innocent civilians, and bombing hospitals. People like transgenders and homosexuals, who are aware of who they are, have a far more profound perspective on life and the sanctity therein. They're far less likely to club a baby than, say, try and find a solution for peace. The Army cannot use people with their own courage and will. They need sheep to mold into Pavlovian psychopaths that will assassinate their own people without question.
Another reason (bolded) why any Army or Marine soldier would be perfectly justified to kick your face in (if only you had the boldness to say it to them in person, rather than cowardly backstab them on a message board.)
I read an article in READER'S DIGEST that says the polar opposite of what you say. The guy who wrote the article fought in Vietnam and was annoyed with the constant portrayal for 20-plus years of the "crazy vet" stereotype of those who served in Vietnam. He investigated and wrote an article on what he actually found.
Veterans have a lower rate of suicide and drug addiction than the norm in the general population. Veterans have a higher rate of rate of education and business ownership than the general population.
And many of the "crazy vet" types, when investigated, are not even actual soldiers just drama-queens who picked up a uniform at an Army/Navy store and started telling whiny stories. That the liberal media loves to hear, since these portrayals reflect badly on the military that the liberal media hates.
You fucking lying piece of shit.
For liberal scum like you, soldiers are just pawns you have contempt for, except when they can be twisted into ammunition for you to convolutedly exploit them as propaganda for your liberal rationalizations. In this case defending dipshits who broke the law and avoided every warning before being reigned in. Defiant children just like you.
Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.
EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.
Just in case anyone doesn't know what David's championing here, let me show you.
He wants workers all over the world to stop complaining and allow Corporations to do what they want. As evidenced by the Occupy Australia crew. He also wants any American who has any type of civil or social complaint against his country to be killed or locked-up for being "Liberal Scum". Even American Soldiers and Veterans. He doesn't respect their Rights unless they're killing people of a different skin color. Then, they're "heroes". Now, keep in mind, if the "Tea Party" wants to protest, that's okay though. They should be allowed to protest and make racial death threats against our President. THAT'S the world David the Wonder BOY wants. Anyone who agrees, jump on board with him...
[quote=Prometheus]The protestor, Veteran of the Iraq war and Marine Scott Olsen, was standing still when shot, unprovoked, in the head with a teargas canister. He is currently in the hospital in a coma, and has a very real chance of dying from his injuries. This man made it safely thorough a war, to be struck down by a fellow American. I hope all those that stand against The Global Occupy Movement are proud of yourselves, and of your law enforcement. This makes me sick, and so does anyone who thinks this is acceptable behavior by the Police. There's no other way to spin it. It is exactly what it is.
Oh, and I dare anyone to scream "Olbermann!" I could give a shit who's on the screen. The facts are still facts.
Originally Posted By: Prometheus
Originally Posted By: Dave, the Wonder Traitor
DIRTY LIBERAL SCUM!! THEY DESERVE TO BE BEATEN AND KILLED!! SOROSPIRACY!! PROTECT 'MERIKER!!
Fact, not deflection. You deflected that Obama was protected by media propaganda, and McCain was slandered by the same media. Obama narrowly won, and I believe that was because of unprecedented partisanship by the liberal media.
That's false. Prove it.
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You also have been trolling and cheerleading Pro's infantile antics.
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Originally Posted By: Iggy
Seriously, show me one post where I absolve Obama of being a corporatist wanker. I'll wait.
You seem to be arguing for Obama's re-election, with a dismissive rejection of Romney. But you mentioned Republicans of interest for you as Ron Paul, Gingrich, and Roemer. But my impression is you'll ultimately pull the lever for Obama and label the Republican candidate as a corporate whore. (a la Prometheus)
In other words, you can't prove it, because it's not true. You just wish it were, so it might give you some sympathy over your butthurt attitude. Once again, reality proving you wrong, David. At what age did you set up your highly compacted cognitive dissidence?
Originally Posted By: WB
The reality is, Obama
Originally Posted By: WB
That's another DNC talking point, not reality.
Good old Dave. Deciding what is and isn't "reality".
Originally Posted By: WB
Romney, unlike Obama, is not in favor of a strong socialist central government.
Prove Obama is. Oh, you can't.
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Unlike Obama, does not favor crony capitalism that would use corporations to advance an ideological socialist experiment.
Prove it. Oh, you can't.
Originally Posted By: WB
(as I sourced from Tim Carney's book OBAMANOMICS
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"That's another RNC talking point, not reality."
Originally Posted By: WB
Originally Posted By: Iggy
I repeat, he supported and still supports the abandonment of free market principles to "save" the free market (see, bailouts).
Despite your condescending dismissiveness, Obama is unprecedented in his damage to the country, and three years later, it still isn't even being reported!
LMAO!!! BECAUSE IT'S NOT TRUE YOU FUCKING MORON!
Jesus fucking Christ, David. If you think Obama's shitty, do-nothing Presidency has done "unprecedented damage" to this country, you must have had your entire hands inside your ears the eight-years Bush and the Extremist Right pissed on the Constitution and instituted a Corporate Police State, dictated by the Military-Industrial Complex.
You perpetually amaze me at the level of ignorance and cowardice you're willing to sink to defend criminal billionaire strangers. That's just fucking crazy on your part, dude. Holy shit.
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Republicans are just as bad? Prove it.
Done.
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Again: we have a choice in Nov 2012, most likely between Obama and Romney.
It's called freedom of choice, David. Simply vote for Ron Paul, or do a Glenn Beck write-in vote. OF COURSE there's a choice, man. This is America. Stand up and make your choice based on what YOU want, not what your party allegiance wants. Seriously.
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despite that the co-opted Occupy Wall Street movement is funded by Soros, SEIU, UAW, MoveOn and so forth.
Fiction. Prove it or stop lying.
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Other than your support for a bunch of unwashed neo-hippie rabble in the streets who talk about --in no uncertain terms-- intimidating if not violently rioting to take stuff from people who worked for what they have.
You are a fucking pawn of the Corporate Government. Congrats on literally regurgitating exactly what the Extremist Right has told you to say and believe. It's like watching a textbook deconstruction of the quintessential Bernays Model "media puppet", simply salivating whenever the bell is rung...
Ah yes, Fascism alive and well in America. American citizens...forced to pay taxes...aren't allowed Freedom of Speech or Freedom to Protest. This is not America. It's a Police State run by corruption and controlled by the worst of humanity. I look forward to the revolution.
Originally Posted By: Prometheus
NYC authorities clearly feel OWS eviction is just and reasonable. That's why they are doing it at 2am and barring all press........
Originally Posted By: Prometheus
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BREAKING: Bloomberg served with temporary restraining order requiring reopening of Zuccotti Park to protesters at 7:50 a.m. | At 6:30 a.m. this morning, following a midnight police raid evicting protesters from Zuccotti Park, Justice Lucy Billings issued an order requiring the protesters to be readmitted to Zuccotti Park with their tents. ThinkProgress just spoke to one of the plantiff’s attorney’s, Gideon Orion Oliver, who confirmed that the order was served on Mayor Bloomberg and the other defendants via fax at 7:50 a.m. During his 8 a.m. press conference, Mayor Bloomberg seemed to acknowledge he was familiar with the temporary restraining order, but claimed he had not been served and was keeping the park closed. As of this writing, Zuccotti Park remains closed to protesters in direct contradiction of Justice Billing’s order.
Seems Bloomberg needs to be brought up on criminal charges. Court Orders aren't optional, even for the corrupt Corporate puppets...
Critics of Occupy Wall Street have a transparent objective: They want to persuade blue collar whites and ordinary middle class Americans to turn on the movement for cultural reasons — because its optics offend these voters’ cultural instincts — even if they broadly agree with its general principles and critique of what’s gone wrong.
“The greatest hoax of the last couple of decades has been the ability of the right wing to co-opt members of the struggling lower middle class and lower class and pretend they speak for them while enacting policies that enable the super-rich. They’ve used wedge issues like gay marriage and abortion and the baby Jeebus to alienate folks from their own economic interests, feeding them a steady diet of hatred of minorites, the educated, science, and, well, reality to create a voting block of people so guided by hatred of the ‘other’ that they would crawl over broken glass to cut their nose off to spite their face.”
IT'S MY THREAD! MINE!!!! SOROSPIRACY!!! 
