RKMBs Forums .::Important::. Politics and Current Events Occupiers shut down another small business.

Wow.

I can't even claim to have ever been on Jaburg's bad side.

Prometheus' stupidity is truly unprecedented.

Pro has some wrong ideas about the OWS goofballs. I don't think that makes him stupid.

Jake, you claim I offer no rebuttal, so I do. You then bitch and whine about what I say, calling me a (I assume insulting) name the entire time. I think you might need to take a break from the internet. You're becoming too much of whiney bitch when someone disagrees with you. I didn't come in your house and shit on your comics. So, really, why are you worried what I think? Oh, that's right. You're opinionated, whiny, and feel justified to have your out-of-thin-air ramblings taken as gospel of intellectual discourse.

Sure, man. Like I said, until you get off from your ass and get involved you have every right anyone has to an uninformed opinion. And yes, it is uninformed. Not because you disagree with The Movement, but because you simply don't know what the fuck you're talking about at any real given time.

And Phil? I know you love having the opportunity to use your stock internet meme photobucket account, but I've always capitalized the words Occupy and Movement when discussing said Occupy Movement. Because it is The Movement. Same one overseas. Same one in every country. Same one here. I didn't realize there was confusion surrounding such...

You are projecting your own mental problems onto me.

Just because I challenge you or differ in opinion does not make me automatically less informed than you.

You keep making that same argument. It's a cop out.

Anything you can't argue you spin.

What exactly do i need to get off my ass and get involved in?

The Occupy movement? I have to be one of them to offer my opinion against them?

What are you talking about?

Pro, if you understood how the real world worked you wouldn't be embarrassing yourself by promoting the Bowel Movement.

No amount of "wrong ideas" motivates his level of cognitive dissonance.

Constantly posting the same thing over and over again as if whatever you say is common sense doesn't even qualify as an argument let alone an idea.

He's not concerned with defending or reasoning their actions so much as he is with brushing off criticism of them. It's as if he's campaigning for them.

The word for that may not be "stupidity," but whatever it is, it sure as hell isn't smart.

The only one who seems to be getting "embarrassed", I believe, is you. Unless you mean to imply that when multiple people don't agree with one person, and that one person will not yield to popular opinion, he/she must then be embarrassed? Pack mentality. Leave it to the animals. Humans are better than that. See, I understand how the real world works perfectly, Jake. It's about getting involved and taking an active stance against that which is harmful towards society. You can sit, be involved in nothing at all, and rant about how "wrong" everyone is. But, then, that just means you have an "internet opinion". Not that you're informed. How many of the protests did you go to? How many have you been involved in, long enough to make the fair judgement that "The Bowel Movement" (witty) are "children"?

Oh, right. None. Like the rest of the Keyboard Patriots here, you just watch TV, get irritated at inconveniences, and then hit the internet to complain.

You seem to think if you can't convince me to see things your way with "Unh-uh!" I must have some malfunction or must be in error. I am not. I have made my case, my statements, and basically expressed exactly what I believe. You don't like it? Don't agree. That's fine. But, don't get butthurt because your insults don't create copacetic discussions about how right you are...

Yes. Taking down fraudsters and thieves should happen. And, as I've said before, the government needs to be more proactive in making sure things can't get "too big to fail" by being more proactive with the use of anti-trust laws.



We're going to just have to agree to disagree on whether it was co-opted or started by the far left.

Ultimately, however, the Occupy movement was doomed to fail because it was directed at businesses and not the government. Instead of protesting (as the tea party did, as the 60s anti-war protesters typically did) at and against the government (the people they needed to spur to action), the Occupiers camped out on private property and protested at the site of private businesses. They didn't march on the Capitol, or even city hall. They shut down bridges used by the middle class, closed ports the employed the middle class and crapped in parks used by the middle class.

If people want to enact legislative change they need to inconvenience the politicians, not the private citizens. Occupy did the opposite.

I don't have to go to Mars to know I can't breath there, and I don't need to staple my balls to my leg to know it will hurt.

Did one have to join the Hitler youth to know that was bad?

You take every critique of the Occupy children personally.

And again you argue that because I disagree I am somehow less informed than you.

I am sure you like to think that.

Should I have joined the Hitler youth to know that was bad?

Yes. Losing jobs is certainly an inconvenience...

I'm not going to re-write what I just said, Jake. I'd quote it, but you'd cry like before. So, if you can't understand what I've said directly to you, then head back to the kids table. Or, throw a tantrum like you have been doing. That's amusing, as well.

Again I see since I don't agree with you I don't understand.

Again, because I just don't agree with you my temper must be involved.

Just because I challenge your extremist socialist agenda don't assume I'm too emotionally involved in pointing it out.

I'm sure you would like that.

This whole movement is about stamping your feet and holding your breath until you turn blue so can get attention.

It's children doing childish things.

A bunch of rabble who wants the government to give them something they didn't earn.

It's the "everyone gets a trophy crowd" refusing to do the work to improve their own lives.

America owes you nothing. Just be grateful you were not born in China, or Somalia.

Your opinion is noted, as in error as it is. But, even the uneducated are allowed to speak their minds. Just look at Rex or Dave.

Reposteus at it again.

Again with the same old story.

I don't agree so I am somehow lesser than you.

I don't agree so I must be uniformed.

I don't agree so I must be emotional.

I don't agree so I must be uneducated.

To you there is no other side to this but your own.

You grip onto the Movement like a drowning man.

I repost because you cannot respond. I will sum it up into bullet points for you, Jake:

• Why do you care what I think?
  
  How have I pushed my beliefs on you?
  
  How involved are you to be able to make a fair assessment of The Movement?
  
  Why are you so invested in trying to convince me and everyone else that I (and The Movement) are somehow wrong? So emotionally invested (don't kid yourself) as to call it childish names? To call me childish names?
  
  If you cannot back up your opinion with facts, then it remains an opinion. Correct?

Like I said, man, get a grip. I'm not supporting this subject anywhere but in the threads brought up in this forum. I'm not bringing it to your house, to Radio Shack, or to anywhere else on these boards. So, if you cannot accept someone with an opposing political opinion, in a political forum, then maybe you shouldn't be in here?

Yes, yes. I know this is the part where you go "BUT THEY'RE ALL UGLY AND CHILDREN AND STUFF! BOWEL MOVEMENTS!" We get it. I get it. You don't like them. Like I say to Rex and all the others who whine about protesting (but don't seem to be able to corroborate their opinions with facts): Tough shit.

Now, are you satisfied with that answer? Or should I expect various other multi-posts of one-line rants?

DON'T YOU DARE BRING YOUR OPINIONS TO RADIO SHACK.

I believe it's simply 'The Shack' now.

Black people are allowed to use the R word.

Pro:
How involved are you to be able to make a fair assessment of The Movement?

J: I live, I learn, I read, I think. There is a wealth of information.

Pro: Why are you so invested in trying to convince me and everyone else that I (and The Movement) are somehow wrong? So emotionally invested (don't kid yourself) as to call it childish names? To call me childish names?

J: Pot meet kettle

Pro:If you cannot back up your opinion with facts, then it remains an opinion. Correct?

J: I have talked facts, you ignore them, because it makes you feel better to think I'm uniformed, or uneducated.

Pro:
Like I said, man, get a grip. I'm not supporting this subject anywhere but in the threads brought up in this forum. I'm not bringing it to your house, to Radio Shack, or to anywhere else on these boards. So, if you cannot accept someone with an opposing political opinion, in a political forum, then maybe you shouldn't be in here?

J: I have no problem with opposing viewpoints. If you did I guess you should have kept it to yourself instead of posting it anywhere.

The second you post it anywhere on these boards you open yourself up for comments and debate.

This is a message board for all the possible points of view, not your blog.

I have the right to comment on anything posted here in any forum, that is why message boards exist. To engage other people in conversation.

If you don't want to hear opposing viewpoints on your political ideals keep them somewhere where you don't have to.

So, yes, you did bring this to my house by making your viewpoint public.

If you can't handle an opposing view stick to other forums than this one. I'm sure there are plenty of boards with completely like minded people.

If you post stuff in public on these boards be prepared to discuss or be challenged on your beliefs.

Rob doesn't keep these boards running so only you can post your opinion.

I have no problem with you discussing your views, Pro.

You absolutely have the right to post that here, that's what it's for.

As do I.

pro, why are you so invested in the Movement that you must prove everybody with an opposing view wrong?

Good, I'm glad you see that. Then, there's really no need to call me names then, correct? I am within my "rights" (as you have declared) to post my political opinion on a political message board. Thanks for that, Jake.

Not at all. They offer their opinion, sometimes backed with facts. I offer my opinion in rebuttal, also sometimes backed with facts. No one is oppressing anyone else's right to post what they want, and think what they like.

Jake, why are you so emotionally invested in trying to prove anyone with an opposing view wrong?

Wow. I just saw this. You view someone discussing their opposing political opinion on a political opinion board as "forcing it on you"? I hope you're joking. Otherwise, we have nothing to discuss.

Hey Jake, look! I'm "reposting" something. Because, I don't think you read it clearly the first time:

I answered that already.

I didn't say you forced it on me. Please re-read my post.

But I guess I'm not, right?

Because I don't agree with you?

Again, this is a board for all our opinions, not your blog.

Again, I ask you to show me where I said you couldn't disagree, Jake. All you did was walk into the thread and...




...before I even said a word to you. So, really, stop whining and bitching because I am not agreeing with your personal take on the world.

You are sure trying though.

You keep saying if I don't like what I am reading rather than voice my feelings I should just go away?

Have you not?

I'm sorry if I have a memory beyond this one single thread and judge you by your overall conduct.

That's right, Jake. I say that because you're acting randomly obsessed with my viewpoints. And, I'd rather us just not engage each other in conversation if all you're going to do is ignore everything I say, and then shit all over me.

I guess I'm supposed to ignore all the other OWS threads but this one when discussing the issue.

OH! So you brought a vendetta into the thread! Awesome. I'm glad I'm that important to you, Jake. Tell me, man...what overall "revenge scheme" do you have planned out? How have I "wronged you" in the past? I'm TOTALLY all ears for this...

I am not ignoring what you say. I have been responding to it. I have no problem hearing your opinions. You on the other hand take every critique of the OWS movement personally.

And again, you are completely unwilling to even hear an opposing point.