I didn't vote in one election out of many on the slate. You don't want me to boycott. Fine. Offer me the chance to go on the record with my lack of confidence in any of the choices.
I actually didn't vote in 2008 either. We'd moved and I didn't get around to registering in the new location. And since I live in NY it wasn't going to make a difference anyway.
I understand completely. Sometimes shit happens and, in your case and mine, it wasn't like the outcome of the vote for your state was in question. New York was going overwhelmingly for Obama and I seriously doubt there were two million+ other people in your situation to change that. Next year, it is a different story for me. I'm in a swing state this year so I will be taking a fairly active role for whatever candidate I get behind. And, considering my position, I'm not going to be afraid to ask, "What are you going to do for me?"
Similar examples from 4 years ago are Mike Huckabee and Ron Paul. Or John McCain.
All hung on to the bitter end, despite pundits and common wisdom saying they should drop out.
Likewise Newt Gingrich 6 months ago. The media (even Fox News) were eager to declare him politically dead, and a joke. Now that "joke" is the far-away front runner.
I agree with you that the media has a double standard when it comes to republicans. And at this point the evidence against Cain vis a vis his personal life isn't conclusive.
That being said, Cain is no Newt Gingrich or Bill Clinton. Or John McCain. Nor is he even Mike Huckabee or Ron Paul.
Each of those examples is an experienced politician with either years of service in federal government (Gingrich, McCain, Paul) or a successful stint as a governor (Clinton, Huckabee). Cain, while an admirable businessman and commentator has almost no relevant government experience. He's bascially a less abrasive Donald Trump.
If Herman Cain truly wanted to serve his country in government elective office he should be burnishing his credentials in congress or a state legislature right now. Maybe a cabinet position someday (if the sex allegations are false). But he is not going to be president and never was going to be president.
Come to think of it, Bill Clinton at the same time in the 1991-1992 race was fielding similar allegations from Gennifer Flowers, and at least the suggestion of others, who later came forward.
Needless to say, the media had a slightly less eager reporting of those allegations, as compared to Cain.
Flowers was a news story just like Cain's women are now news stories. Do you take into account that Cain has a growing group of "Flowers" and that generates more stories? Do you feel the media shouldn't have covered any of them? Where's the line for you?
Similar examples from 4 years ago are Mike Huckabee and Ron Paul. Or John McCain.
All hung on to the bitter end, despite pundits and common wisdom saying they should drop out.
Likewise Newt Gingrich 6 months ago. The media (even Fox News) were eager to declare him politically dead, and a joke. Now that "joke" is the far-away front runner.
I agree with you that the media has a double standard when it comes to republicans. And at this point the evidence against Cain vis a vis his personal life isn't conclusive.
That being said, Cain is no Newt Gingrich or Bill Clinton. Or John McCain. Nor is he even Mike Huckabee or Ron Paul.
Each of those examples is an experienced politician with either years of service in federal government (Gingrich, McCain, Paul) or a successful stint as a governor (Clinton, Huckabee). Cain, while an admirable businessman and commentator has almost no relevant government experience. He's bascially a less abrasive Donald Trump.
If Herman Cain truly wanted to serve his country in government elective office he should be burnishing his credentials in congress or a state legislature right now. Maybe a cabinet position someday (if the sex allegations are false). But he is not going to be president and never was going to be president.
I'm willing to give on that to an extent. There does, at times, seem to be a double standard. However, I also think that Republicans are equally to blame for this by trying to present themselves as the family values/good Christian type. Don't tell me you are all about the family ::cough:: David Vitter ::cough:: if you are fucking a hooker. Dems are likely to say they are Christian, but I don't think they really thump the bible and brandish their family values the way a lot of Republicans do. Is it fair? Probably not. But, does the hypocrisy add an amazing flavor to savor in these types of stories? Oh, hell yeah.
Or, I could just go with what a lot of Republicans have said about life in general when it comes to this topic, "Life isn't fair."
I guess that Cain can now give all the platonic, charity money he wants to female friends that he doesn't tell his wife about.
Seriously, I'm glad he has finally stepped out of the way so that Wondy will quit trying to defend the turd. This was inevitable the day he said that he was giving money to a female friend he kept secret from his wife. Sounded exactly like those dumbasses that put themselves at the seen of the crime with a gun in their hand while still maintaining their innocence. I'll just close this topic with a simple...
Because you KNOW the Republican shills, Iggy. They're not interested in choosing proper candidates. They just need a life-win, and this is as close as they might be able to get.
The Pussy chose Herman Cain, and was let down. The Traitor chose the racist redneck, and is again, let down. And as for Chrissy P...
Originally Posted By: Pariah
And spare me the faggot 'both sides suck' high-road speak that you and your boyfriend use to justify quoting yourselves and the occutards ad nauseum.
I think someone is letting their Alt-ID show. Meanwhile, your use of "faggot" proves you're the same racist that the Wonder Traitor pretends not to be. Congrats hatemonger!
Iggy, they're all childish fools. They're squirming in their bile because they keep choosing the losing sides. Don't sweat them. Post what you want, HOW you want, WHERE you want. They can't stop you. All they can do is come running and cry and lie and throw a tantrum. We win just by posting here.
P.S. Cain is a simplistic, ignorant fool who is just another corrupt millionaire trying to fleece the masses. I love watching the Shills scramble to defend anyone with an (R) in front of their name...
Because you KNOW the Republican shills, Iggy. They're not interested in choosing proper candidates. They just need a life-win, and this is as close as they might be able to get.
The Pussy chose Herman Cain, and was let down. The Traitor chose the racist redneck, and is again, let down. And as for Chrissy P...
Originally Posted By: Pariah
And spare me the faggot 'both sides suck' high-road speak that you and your boyfriend use to justify quoting yourselves and the occutards ad nauseum.
I think someone is letting their Alt-ID show. Meanwhile, your use of "faggot" proves you're the same racist that the Wonder Traitor pretends not to be. Congrats hatemonger!
Iggy, they're all childish fools. They're squirming in their bile because they keep choosing the losing sides. Don't sweat them. Post what you want, HOW you want, WHERE you want. They can't stop you. All they can do is come running and cry and lie and throw a tantrum. We win just by posting here.
P.S. Cain is a simplistic, ignorant fool who is just another corrupt millionaire trying to fleece the masses. I love watching the Shills scramble to defend anyone with an (R) in front of their name...
Re-read your own post, then get back to me about "condescending and preachy".
And look in the mirror.
When you are respectful, I am respectful. To my memory, I never spoke to you in a condescending way, until the Occupy Wall Street topic. Where you became Pro's cheerleader, and became equally arrogant, condescending and abrasive yourself. (i.e., if you don't agree with me, you're a right wing shill, etc.) I took it in stride for a long time, but when you kept it up, I finally fired back. You're Pro-Lite. And I began to disengage from your posts when you started chiming in cheering on Promod's worst behavior, and mimmicking his style yourself.
It's kind of schizophrenic, where you initiate polite discussions at times, and other times leap into topics with guns blazing and insult anyone who disagrees with your written-on-stone-tablets-and-brought-down-from-Mount-Sinai opinion. And anyone who dares to disagree is another Republican shill or indoctrinated stooge.
So... fuck you.
You are not god. Or the end-all beat-all authoritative opinion on what is and isn't truth. Your insults and condescension are just your opinion, and you've already made clear your eagerness to lower these discussions in a cocky insult-laden manner identical to Prometheus.
When you can cease calling anyone who disagrees with you a "shill" and similar blanket insults, I'll think about taking you off ignore.
Every time you've offered some article to read, I've read it. Every time I give you sources to read, you shrug them off as corporate-shill indoctination written by a "clown". I've read these books. You haven't. And they are filled with detailed and sourced information. Obamanomics in particular I think is incredibly fair to both sides, and gels with your opinion of a corporate-finace system that infects both parties. But even as you call me and others a "shill", it's you who refuses to read any sources that even potentially contradict your indoctrinated views.
It's funny as hell, the way the worst offenders here accuse ME of being the instigator. With you, with Pro, with Rex, each of you, I tried so hard to be polite with you, far more than you deserved or reciprocated. Each of you didn't just fire the first shot, you fired the first 10,000 shots before I finally responded in kind.
You were dismissive from the outset you sanctimonious bitch. And, please, feel free to read on to page 26 where you question the authenticity of fucking army veterans. You're a tool. Fuck you and thanks for the ignore. I'm gonna ask for some one to pass this on and then I'm done with you.
And spare me the faggot 'both sides suck' high-road speak that you and your boyfriend use to justify quoting yourselves and the occutards ad nauseum. 
