Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
 Originally Posted By: thedoctor
What if Zimmerman didn't have a gun and Martin wound up beating him to death? Would you still be blaming Zimmerman for following Martin around?


I don't think that's a reasonable hypothetical. Zimmerman outweighed Martin for starters and by the looks of the video it wasn't all fat. Also while some conservatives have dug up anything and everything that could possibly make Martin look bad, they have yet to turn up any incidents where he attacked another person. (Zimmerman has though) Fights don't usually end with somebody being beaten to death. It does happen but what would have been Martin's motive for even attempting? This is where it gets into bad law protecting Zimmerman btw. It doesn't matter that Martin had no weapon or reason to actually beat somebody to death. All that really matters in Zimmermans case is that the gun owner felt that his life was threatened.


But some fights do end with someone being beaten to death. We've also shown that Martin was a big guy himself and not the kid that was shown in the old pictures that were first broadcast. Just so you know, ABC did a digital enhancement to the video of Zimmerman in the police station that you posted earlier to show that Zimmerman had what looked like a gash and welts on the back of his head. Also, the law still requires there to be proof of self defense. It's not a blank check for people to kill like the media is portraying it. So, again, there is too much misinformation out there right now to start laying blame unquestionably on one side or the other.

whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules.
It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
This is true both in politics and on the internet."

Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."