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you missed this part:
Investigations by both legal authorities and journalists have found O'Keefe has "selectively", "heavily" or "deceptively" edited secretly recorded videos to leave a false impression and present the subjects in the worst possible light.
theres no "proof". you and the crazy teaps just want to keep the stupid ball rolling.
and yeah i DONT give a fuck. read my responses above and you will see why. Yeah, I know what wikipedia says. Cool story etc. The videos aren't edited. The conversations just keep going. you wanting it to be so doesnt make it real. but whatevs bro. better get to that basement so you can get ready for the great take-back-of-america  but cool story bro.
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Again, loose explanation so that i dont have to face reality. my way yes, your way no. voter fraud, santa claus, and superman, etc.
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Again, the site doesn't calculate overflow of a county's capacity. It just counts the amount of participation. According to the petition: In one county alone in Ohio, which was a battleground state, President Obama received 106,258 votes...but there were only 98,213 eligible voters. It's not humanly possible to get 108% of the vote," That was Wood County, Ohio. So...
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Again, loose explanation so that i dont have to face reality. my way yes, your way no. voter fraud, santa claus, and superman, etc. 
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thas right man. i don't give a flying fuck about fantasys. Except it's not fantasy. You just said that you refuse to acknowledge it's there. I offered you a scenario where it was confirmed that voter fraud exists and you outright admitted you'd still ignore it. swing to the fence, g-man. get some hyperbole and then throw every doomsday scenario you can think of. thats what your best at.  Who the fuck is g-man? You just admitted outright that you didn't care if and when voter fraud occurs.... only desperation here is the guy "desperate" to try to convince math its wrong, and that theres a big conspiracy against the fringe freaks that just want to lower the bar. but you keep trying, pars. like i said thanks for losing this election. stick around i'm sure you can find something to fuck up 2016 for us too.  You just said that regardless of whether or not it's true, you wouldn't care.... That's not rejection of conspiracy. It's apathy.
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is this just pars being stubborn or does he really believe this stuff?
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Again, the site doesn't calculate overflow of a county's capacity. It just counts the amount of participation. According to the petition: In one county alone in Ohio, which was a battleground state, President Obama received 106,258 votes...but there were only 98,213 eligible voters. It's not humanly possible to get 108% of the vote," That was Wood County, Ohio. So... Again. It doesn't list county capacities. It just lists the numbers.
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I think this is the denial stage of grief.
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is this just pars being stubborn or does he really believe this stuff? You just said that regardless of whether or not it's true, you wouldn't care....
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I offered you a scenario where it was confirmed that voter fraud exists and you outright admitted you'd still ignore it. why do you want me to repeat myself? can you read? I DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT YOUR FANTASYS BRO! are you retarded? do you not get that you making up a scenario is still a fantasy? swing to the fence, g-man. get some hyperbole and then throw every doomsday scenario you can think of. thats what your best at.  Who the fuck is g-man? pars is having a stroke i made up a fantasy and you didnt take it srsly so yuou must be apathetic and wrong. easter bunny, tooth fairy, and wmd's  k. you're not saying anything anymore. but keep going pars. keep digging that hole. like all the conspiracy nuts and birthers and 9-11 truthers just keep doubling-down with the crazy.
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is this just pars being stubborn or does he really believe this stuff? You just said that regardless of whether or not it's true, you wouldn't care....
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is this just pars being stubborn or does he really believe this stuff? YOU JUST SAID YOU ARE A TRAITOR AND LOVE SATAN AND WNT TO FRAUD AND SHIT!!!
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Again, the site doesn't calculate overflow of a county's capacity. It just counts the amount of participation. According to the petition: In one county alone in Ohio, which was a battleground state, President Obama received 106,258 votes...but there were only 98,213 eligible voters. It's not humanly possible to get 108% of the vote," That was Wood County, Ohio. So... Again. It doesn't list county capacities. It just lists the numbers. You're dodging. The petition clearly states that he got 106,258 votes. The board of election of the county shows that isn't the case. You are part of the alternate reality that everyone is talking about.
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One question though: If the ones who are looking into it are able to take the matter to the courts and prove that a number of those counties were won fraudulently, what's going to be your tune? same.
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I think this is the denial stage of grief. its creepn me out, iggy. he is really panicking now. wtf? i thought wonder boy was suposed to be the one who loses his mind over stuff like this? 
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Actual numbers aren't a hunch. The Examiner aren't the ones who broke the fact that more than 100% of the registered voters for a county actually voted there. Mister "Numbers aren't a a hunch" now disavows numbers from the County Board of Elections. Priceless.
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You're dodging. The petition clearly states that he got 106,258 votes. The board of election of the county shows that isn't the case. You are part of the alternate reality that everyone is talking about. No. No dodge. If there's no place value listing capacity, then there's no way for that site to tell me whether or not 106,258 votes isn't 108% past capacity. You seem to be positing that because that number of votes go through that they must be legitimate. Interesting logic.
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I think this is the denial stage of grief. its creepn me out, iggy. he is really panicking now. wtf? i thought wonder boy was suposed to be the one who loses his mind over stuff like this? Right. He should be happy considering Mitt wanted to take away his access to Tranny porn.
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Actual numbers aren't a hunch. The Examiner aren't the ones who broke the fact that more than 100% of the registered voters for a county actually voted there. Mister "Numbers aren't a a hunch" now disavows numbers from the County Board of Elections. Priceless. I don't disavow them. They just don't contradict the findings.
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I think this is the denial stage of grief. its creepn me out, iggy. he is really panicking now. wtf? i thought wonder boy was suposed to be the one who loses his mind over stuff like this? One question though: If the ones who are looking into it are able to take the matter to the courts and prove that a number of those counties were won fraudulently, what's going to be your tune? same.
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One question though: If the ones who are looking into it are able to take the matter to the courts and prove that a number of those counties were won fraudulently, what's going to be your tune? same. my tune is the election is over and to keep going back to the well in an effort to squeeze some fantasy conspiracy from the loss, instead of learning how to evolve and rebrand the party, is only going to hold us back in the long run. let it go. move ahead and see if we can redefine the party for the modern times. other wise the gop is not going to be getting into the white house any time soon. why does he keep requoting my posts but edits out the entire thing? thats nothing like the edited fraud okeefe's videos have been proven to be. and no one has pointed that out to him only for him to plug his fingers into his ears.
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Actual numbers aren't a hunch. The Examiner aren't the ones who broke the fact that more than 100% of the registered voters for a county actually voted there. Mister "Numbers aren't a a hunch" now disavows numbers from the County Board of Elections. Priceless. I don't disavow them. I just dont want to believe it cuz it means i have to admit my error.
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From Wood County BoE: Registered Voters 108014 Total Votes 62069 Barack Obama 31596 Read. Weep. Wank. 
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One question though: If the ones who are looking into it are able to take the matter to the courts and prove that a number of those counties were won fraudulently, what's going to be your tune? same. my tune is the election is over and to keep going back to the well in an effort to squeeze some fantasy conspiracy from the loss, instead of learning how to evolve and rebrand the party, is only going to hold us back in the long run. let it go. move ahead and see if we can redefine the party for the modern times. other wise the gop is not going to be getting into the white house any time soon. why does he keep requoting my posts but edits out the entire thing? thats nothing like the edited fraud okeefe's videos have been proven to be. and no one has pointed that out to him only for him to plug his fingers into his ears. One question though: If the ones who are looking into it are able to take the matter to the courts and prove that a number of those counties were won fraudulently, what's going to be your tune? same.
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From Wood County BoE: Registered Voters 108014 Total Votes 62069 Barack Obama 31596 Read. Weep. Wank. Again, where on the page does it shows that there's no overflow? Doesn't the county go that high or not?
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From Wood County BoE: Registered Voters 108014 Total Votes 62069 Barack Obama 31596 Read. Weep. Wank. nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! numbers lie until i say they dont!! noooooooooooooooooooooo!
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MASSIVE VOTER FRAUD IN ST.LUCIE COUNTY, FLby Heather Ginsberg
On Tuesday only one precinct had less than 113% turnout. “The Unofficial vote count is 175,554 registered voters 247,713 vote cards cast (141.10% ). The National SEAL Museum, a St. Lucie county polling place, had 158.85% voter turn out, the highest in the county.”
The Supervisor of Elections, Gertrude Walker, had this to say concerning the 141% voter turnout: “They may have had something like that in Palm Beach County, but we’ve never seen that here.”
So maybe Allen West wasn’t crazy to ask for a lock-down on the ballot boxes and machines in this county. According to the report given the day after elections, Allen B. West garnered 52,625 votes in St.Lucie county and Patrick Murphy 65,896 votes.
This is a problem that must be addressed right away. There is no reason that there should ever be more than 100% turnout. This county alone could have cost Allen West his election. Voter fraud is real, and it is time that this be solved.
113% voter turnout. Sounds perfectly natural to me. With number of people moving into and out of any voter district, along with the apathetic who rarely if ever vote, voter turnout averages around 70% in most districts. 90% or 100% turnout is highly suspect. But reviewing the election, many districts in the battleground states are showing this highly suspect voting ratio. Paul Gigot on the Journal Editorial Report said just 300,000 votes re-distributed in 4 states would have left Romney the winner in this election. I don't know if the pro-Obama-orchestrated level of voter fraud we're seeing reaches that. But I'm certainly beginning to wonder. I saw a report earlier today that a district in Philadelphia voted 100% for Obama. 100% ! Does that sound like a real election result to anyone here?
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Turnout over 100% is caused by things like same day registration. This would match with polling data showing a break for Obama 2-to-1 amongst first time voters. This isn't rocket science or a grand conspiracy. It is just how elections work. Sheesh.
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St. Lucie, Florida - Ballot was two pages long. Each page was counted as a vote cast due to a mix up. Hence, 141% turnout and, yet, only 70% of registered voters actually...you know...voting. Feel free to try again.
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Okay. I can buy that one precinct had skewed voter turnout due to a counting error. But... Obama Likely Won Re-Election Through Election Fraudby Rachel Alexander
There were many factors that hurt Mitt Romney and favored Barack Obama in the 2012 presidential election. The Democrats portrayed Romney in the worst light possible; as a wealthy, out of touch millionaire who wanted to return women to the 1800's. The left wing media predictably did everything it could to perpetuate that false caricature. Obama's race was an advantage; voters of all persuasions, particularly minorities, still cannot get over the allure of the first black president. The 47% of Americans on welfare were predisposed to vote for the food stamp president over Romney, wanting the free goodies to keep on giving, despite the long-term unsustainability.
In spite of those odds, polls indicated that Romney was going to win the election. The economy is close to Great Depression era conditions, and unemployment is almost as high as when Obama entered office. Economic conditions became so dire after Obama took office it prompted the rise of an entire new movement, the Tea Party. Presidents rarely win reelection when the economy is in the tank.
So how did Romney lose a race that numerous reputable polls and pundits predicted would be an easy win, based on historical patterns? The most realistic explanation is voter fraud in a few swing states. According to the Columbus Dispatch, one out of every five registered voters in Ohio is ineligible to vote. In at least two counties in Ohio, the number of registered voters exceeded the number of eligible adults who are of voting age. In northwestern Ohio's Wood County, there are 109 registered voters for every 100 people eligible to vote. An additional 31 of Ohio's 88 counties have voter registration rates over 90%, which most voting experts regard as suspicious. Obama miraculously won 100% of the vote in 21 districts in Cleveland, and received over 99% of the vote where GOP inspectors were illegally removed.
The inflated numbers can't just reflect voters who have moved, because the average voting registration level nationwide is only 70%. The vast majority of voters over the 70% level are not voting because they want to, they are voting because someone is getting them to cast a vote, one way or another. Those 31 counties are most likely the largest counties in Ohio, representing a majority of Ohio voters. This means the number of votes cast above the 70% typical voter registration level easily tops 100,000, the margin Obama won Ohio by.
Videographer James O'Keefe, known for his undercover videos exposing left wing fraud, caught a Virginia Democratic Congressman's son on video in October explaining how to commit voter fraud. Patrick Moran, the son of Rep. Jim Moran, told O'Keefe's videographer that in order to make a vote for someone else, you'd need two pieces of identification, such as a utility bill, explaining, "they can fake a utility bill with ease, you know?" He went on to advise the videographer that he should also call the voter and pretend to be a polling company in order to make sure the voter isn't intending to vote. He said that Democrat attorneys would be located in the polling places to assist him if challenged casting one of these illegal votes.
In another video, O'Keefe's videographer tells a DNC staffer from Obama's Organizing for America that she intends to vote in both Texas and Florida. The staffer laughs and says, "It's cool." The staffer then prints out a voter registration form for the undercover videographer and advises her on what to do if she gets caught.
These are just the known instances of attempted voter fraud. How many instances occurred that were not discovered? Obama's Organizing for America looked up voters in swing states – many who would not have bothered voting otherwise – and got them to vote. How did they get them to vote? They may have given them rides to the polls, they may have offered to fill out and return their ballots for them, or they may have voted ballots for the ones who were not going to vote.
Many on the left believe there is nothing wrong with committing fraud in order to ensure Obama's reelection. It is a common tenet on the left that the ends justify the means. Saul Alinsky, the 1960's radical who inspired Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, taught community organizers like Obama that dishonesty is acceptable if it achieves your political goals. And when caught, Alinsky teaches radicals to deny the wrongdoing and change the topic to put their accusers on the defensive. One Obama supporter brazenly posted on Facebook that he was voting four times for Obama, asserting that the ends justify the means.
Aiding Obama's win was a devious suppression of the conservative vote. The conservative-leaning military vote has decreased drastically since 2010 due to the so-called Military Voter Protection Act that was enacted into law the year before. It has made it so difficult for overseas military personnel to obtain absentee ballots that in Virginia and Ohio there has been a 70% decrease in requests for ballots since 2008. In Virginia, almost 30,000 fewer overseas military voters requested ballots than in 2008. In Ohio, more than 20,000 fewer overseas military voters requested ballots. This is significant considering Obama won in both states by a little over 100,000 votes.
Voter fraud has been in the works for years. At least 52 employees of the left wing group ACORN have been convicted of voter registration fraud. ACORN itself was convicted of the crime of "compensation," paying its registration canvassers bonuses to exceed their quotas. In 2008, 36% of ACORN's voter registrations were invalidated. Left wing political pundit Chris Matthews admitted last year that pretending to call someone from a polling company, then voting their ballot for them, has been happening in big cities since the 1950's. He admitted he knows that kind of voter fraud takes place in Philadelphia.
Strong-arming people into voting who really have no desire to vote undermines our form of government. People do not choose to vote because they are uninformed about the issues and candidates, are lazy, cynical, or are content with the status quo. Voting someone else's ballot for them is cheating the system and essentially giving yourself two votes.
When people claim that Obama won because the economy was improving, or because Americans generally think he is doing a good job, it is not true. He won through dishonest methods and rhetoric. Many of the votes cast in the swing states were cajoled, some legally and perhaps even more illegally, into supporting him. If voter fraud becomes acceptable, then maybe Donald Trump is right: it's time for a revolution.
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Turnout over 100% is caused by things like same day registration. This would match with polling data showing a break for Obama 2-to-1 amongst first time voters. This isn't rocket science or a grand conspiracy. It is just how elections work. Sheesh. HAHAHAHA!! Where was this confidence half a dozen posts ago when you were just posting the vote count over and over again? You had no idea what was going on did you?
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I'm trying to explain since you guys won't look at supposed turnout vs actual votes cast. You are the one with no idea what it going on. The turnout supposed high turnout in these cases does not match that actual number of votes counted. As with the St. Lucie bullshit, there are a lot of factors at play here. You are chasing a self-delusional belief that there was systemic fraud. There wasn't. Barrack Hussein Obama is your president and mine. Deal with it.
Or, present a case that isn't predicated upon the correctness of a blogger account.
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Shouldn't this stuff be in the wank & cry thread? It's a perfectly good thread just going to waste. 
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"In one county alone in Ohio, which was a battleground state, President Obama received 106,258 votes...but there were only 98,213 eligible voters. It's not humanly possible to get 108% of the vote," The claim, as posited by you through quoting your "source" is that Obama received 106,258 votes in Wood County, Ohio. The Wood County BoE records Obama's vote as a little over 31,000. I know you hate liberal blogs, but they can work all this out for you if you are willing to listen to reason: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/10...aim-Voter-Fraud
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I'm trying to explain since you guys won't look at supposed turnout vs actual votes cast. You are the one with no idea what it going on. No. No you're not. You're being contrarian. If you had honestly believed that the whole time, you would have posted your explanation from the get go instead of constantly posting the numbers over and over again. You're approach is to deny the claim and then work the facts out later. And now you've gone to Kos after criticizing me for using the Examiner. Hypocrite much? ....The page isn't loading. I'll look at it later.
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"In one county alone in Ohio, which was a battleground state, President Obama received 106,258 votes...but there were only 98,213 eligible voters. It's not humanly possible to get 108% of the vote," First thing I took issue with was the above. As the link I provided pointed out, he didn't--in fact--receive 108% of the vote. Honestly, of all the registered voters, he didn't even get 50%. He only got 50% of the county because only about 62,000 voted. Still, this wasn't good enough for you. So, then, it became a matter of the 106k being more than the 98k of eligible voters. First, the 98k number comes from previous statistics. We're living longer and kids are turning 18 in time for election day. Further, many 17 years olds can now pre-register throughout the nation. The fact that number of registered voters went up is of no big fucking surprise. As the Kos piece I pointed out to you points out, it is hard to verify the 98k number without knowing the metric used by the guy that assumed the number. The guy is just modeling based off of census results. As for other areas with over 100% turnout, a lot of this--like in St. Lucie--is based off of cards processed and not the actual number of votes counted. If you look at the actual number of votes counted, turnout was actually lower this year than in '04 or '08. Point is that just like the St. Lucie claim, the cry of voter fraud is nothing short of sour grapes and grasping at straws. But, since you seem to like having your ass owned so badly when you act like a bitch. Get me a fucking soda and suck it: http://www.co.wood.oh.us/BOE/Election%20Results%20Final%20Unofficial.htm
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First thing I took issue with was the above. As the link I provided pointed out, he didn't--in fact--receive 108% of the vote. Honestly, of all the registered voters, he didn't even get 50%. He only got 50% of the county because only about 62,000 voted. Still, this wasn't good enough for you. No one said he got 108% of the vote. The suspicion is that an extra 8% or more of non-eligible voters put him over the top. Further, many 17 years olds can now pre-register throughout the nation. The fact that number of registered voters went up is of no big fucking surprise. As the Kos piece I pointed out to you points out, it is hard to verify the 98k number without knowing the metric used by the guy that assumed the number. The guy is just modeling based off of census results. That's true of every election, but counties don't necessarily see trends of over 100% voting, or increased voter turnout in general, because of it. If you look at the actual number of votes counted, turnout was actually lower this year than in '04 or '08. That just makes things even more suspect since Obama's voter based shrunk by almost ten million votes this time around. Until there's an inspection of accountability, I will continue to remain suspicious. The dead always vote democrat after all.
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Joined: Sep 2003
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The conscience of the rkmbs! 15000+ posts
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The conscience of the rkmbs! 15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2003
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And even if my suspicions prove incorrect, I still remain secure in the notion that you're still left wearing the tinfoil hat as you converse with Pro about Trutherism.
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