RKMBs Forums .::Important::. Politics and Current Events More Voter Fraud by democrats

I think that was a typo.

That's quite a typo to submit to the WH as a petition. Where are the proofreaders?!?

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/recount-election/ZQmy0Mlv

No wait. We're not talking about Wood county. Stop confusing me.

Fuck. Why the hell did you link to Wood county, and why the hell did I go along with it?

This is why we don't have nice things.

They're talking about a different county.

What county are we discussing, then?

Wood county! And that's the problem!

I'm gonna see which one they're talking about.

Apparently they're still number crunching all the counties so they can provide a comprehensive list.

I guess we have to stay tuned for a while.

Following the Examiner article you down the rabbit hole of misunderstanding:

http://www.examiner.com/article/citing-v...unt-of-election

http://www.punditpress.com/2012/11/good-news-obama-won-county-in-ohio-with.html

http://www.bgnews.com/obama-defeats-repu...19bb2963f4.html

http://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/index.ssf/2012/09/ohio_voter_registration_list_i.html

You know, if we had passed anti-fraud laws, such as voter ID, years ago as some people suggested we might not be hearing these accusations now. Just saying.

Okay. Disconnect is connected.

"That's right, Mr. Obama won the majority of Wood County's 108% of registered voters."

My misunderstanding followed your misunderstanding.

They were pointing out that more people were registered than were eligible and that the suspect 8% represents possible voter fraud. Not that-that many people had voted. You operated under the assumption that-that was their claim and then I went along with it because the extra 8% registration was suspect, but I didn't think we were talking about actual votes. Then when you said we were, it led me to believe there was an entirely different county involved.

To be fair, the Examiner did quote the people who made the petition, but that wasn't the author's wording. They need to be told about the misunderstanding however.

The military should oversee the voting process. Greater chance of ID laws actually being enforced in that scenario.

South Park couldn't have made the point better: voting booths are either run by octogenarians or bias fucktards like the ones we saw in Philly.

I take it, then, that you are open to a similar investigation of the Romney campaign in Lawrence County? This, fairly dependable, red county had more registered voters than actual eligible voters this time around. What better place to try and pad votes than in a county that isn't getting the same attention as other, more contentious ones, were? Further, the increase almost perfectly matches the the results--171 vote difference. Though, to be fair, the actual number of voters exceeding the actually eligible is only 1632. The breakdown is as follows.

Lawrence 45,687(RV '08) 49,433(RV '12) 3,746 (Chng) 8.2% (Chg%) 47,801(Eligible Voters)

The vote in 2012:
Romney: 57 percent (14,371 votes), Obama: 41 percent (10,454 votes).

But, I don't hear complaints about this county by the right at all. Where is the outrage at the possible voter fraud here?!?

Iggy, there's a reporter on Fox News named Eric Shaun, who has highlighted examples of voter fraud from BOTH SIDES for several months, and had at least 2 Fox News Reports one-hour specials devoted to the subject.


I find it rather odd that you would assume conservatives/Republicans only are interested in voter fraud by Democrats. Republicans quickly disown guys like Rep. Mark Foley, Todd Akin, Mourdoch, toe-tapping bathroom gay-hookup Sen. Larry Craig, and on and on. Over many years, conservatives/Republicans show an interest in doing the right thing, even if it's their guy in the wrong.

Whereas Democrats constantly rationalize and make excuses for their political leaders in the same situation.

I'm proud of the fact that during the Watergate investigation, Republicans crossed the aisle and sided with Democrats in supporting impeeachment of Nixon.
In the case of Bill Clinton's impeachment, it was almost completely a partisan vote down party lines, where the Democrats had a greater interest in clinging to power than in justice and doing the right thing.

Yes. By all means. I would love a recount of every single precinct, county, and state. That would, of course, mean that Romney's votes get counted and verified as well.

But, as the article already cited, there is less precedent to suspect republicans with all these pro-Obama fraud occurrences. You would acknowledge this as well if you weren't obsessed with your 'backward redneck' narrative.

The article doesn't exactly address the problems with possible Republican voter fraud, but I'll let that pass. Considering your interest in it, I would support a recount in those to counties, but wouldn't support a larger recount measure until the results of those proved--without a shadow of doubt--that voter fraud took place. Then, open up the rest of the state. Otherwise, it is a waste of taxpayer money.

The other cases mentioned could possibly get a look, but I'd like to know more about the layout (party registered with, '08 results comparison, etc.)of the individual precincts before I wasted money.

I'm a lot more open and willing to investigate these things so long as it is broadly done and brings scrutiny to both sides. Presenting it as just one side or the other is generally too easily chalked up to sour grapes.

Yeah when a thread is titled "more voter fraud by democrats" it doesn't appear to present an interest in voter fraud in general.

what would happen if they recounted every single vote in america (using actual math and not some made up shit or whatever) and it still said o won the seat? wuld the ppl up in arms about this be willing to just accept a loss?

pushing it any further at this point is just ghoing to paint conservatives as sore losers. i think deep down what's bothering these types is that they know o still won the seat cuz america voted for him, and the ppl dont agree with the gop. i think thats the problem. these people just cant accept the rest of america doesnt go along with the republican party, even after 4 years of mr hope-and-mediocrity. i don't like it. you dont like it. but there it is. going over this over and over and over just makes us look senile and disconnected from the world. which is why he won in the first place. this is a bad path to walk, bro.

But it does give emphasiss to the fact that election fraud more frequently happens on the Democrat side.

I can't offhand think of a Republican group along the lines of ACORN, that has a nationwide habit of registering the dead to vote. ACORN was investigated by the FBI for voter fraud in every one of the 15 election battleground states in 2008. Congress de-funded ACORN as a result. The U.S. Census Bureau severed ties with ACORN as a result.

http://www.aim.org/special-report/the-lefts-national-vote-fraud-strategy-exposed/


In one of the Eric Shaun 1-hour specials on voter fraud, in Indiana they went down the list of a petition of about 20,000 names to put Obama on the ballot for president in 2008, and person after person down the list said, I didn't sign that. It was pointed out that this alone disqualifies Obama's 2008 election.
And now you have 59 voting precincts in Philadelphia that voted 100% for Obama, and 0 votes for Romney. Really?
And similar voting patterns in many counties of Ohio.
And Florida.

If emphasis is given to Democrat voter fraud, it's because history warrants it.








And it ain't over yet :

You are batshit insane. Look at previous elections in the precincts. Look at the records on registrations in the precincts. Look at the fucking demographics in some of the precincts. It would be more amazing if Romney appealed to a single voter in some of these precincts. Let the madness go, Wondy. The election is over. Obama is still president. Only the crazies and the commentators that make money off of them give a shit about fraudulent claims of fraud.

And, GOP operative Nathan Sproul's republican hired Strategic Allied Consulting played the roll of ACORN this year.

I do not necessarily believe that Obama lost.

I do, however, believe that if voter fraud was constant enough from county to county that Romney was screwed out of a closer second--if not the popular vote.

Quite frankly, the ballots are so easy to scam that I believe it is absolutely necessary in every election to have an initial count as well as a secondary count.

If there turns out to be no discrepancies, then that's my pill to swallow.



Funny. I don't recall there being a "sore losers" meme for liberals after Gore called for a recount. The 'Bush stole the election' jabs persist to this day. Just ask Pro.

For a republican, you have a tendency to choke down the liberal talking points fairly easily. It doesn't make you seem more legit or unbias--just sos you know.



We've been over this before. There were millions of registered republicans in the battleground states that decided to stay home. More than enough to tip the scales in Romney's favor in the electoral college.

This is not a war of ideologies. The demographics that went for Obama don't necessarily disagree with Republican principles--The Latino vote sure as hell doesn't. It's all about who can offer the demographics the most abortions and Obama phones.

I offered sourced facts. ACORN absolutely did orchestrate voter fraud across every battleground state, with a calculated plan to overwhelm the sysem with massive fraud, to get as much fraud and legal concession to fraud as they could get away with.

And ACORN is just one part of the Democrat fraud machine.
As recognized by the U.S. Congress that de-funded them.
As recognized by the U.S. Census Bureau that severed their ties with Acorn.
As recognized by the IRS.

All of which has led to ACORN re-naming its branch offices, so the Democrat leadership can circumnavigate its severing ACORN funding, and provide funds to ACORN offices run by the exact same people.

You know what's batshit crazy, Iggy? Ignoring the stated goals of the DNC and its fraud army, and trying to vindictively shoot (or slander) the messenger.

I'm actually surprised there wasn't more accusations of voter fraud this time around. There seems to me much more of the GOP looking at what changes it needs to make for future elections.

And, GOP operative Nathan Sproul's republican hired Strategic Allied Consulting played the roll of ACORN this year.

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(Wow, look at that, I can use emoticons too!)

Gee, I never saw that coming. But just like when M E M uses that tactic, even if it's true (and while election fraud happens on both sides, I don't believe Republicans have a machine in place that comes anywhere near the massive election fraud on the Democrat side. AS I JUST DETAILED IN THE LINKED MATERIAL IN MY PREVIOUS POSTS.)

As I said, Fox News has done multiple programs devoted exclusively to election fraud on both sides.

Whereas the New York Times (i.e., the flagship of the Obama Campaign and Ministry of Truth) is only interested in election fraud when they can connect it to the GOP.

And hiding behind "Republicans do it too" equivocation to change the subject from the DNC's massive organized fraud.

You know what is batshit insane? Getting called out by Red State for being a voter fraud nutter.

You know what is batshit insane? Ignoring 10 years of expanding Democrat voter fraud.



And what I linked above.

That's great. Link to a group under investigation for forged signatures for election monitoring in Ohio.

That's a felony even when a republican does it btw.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_the_Vote

They seem remarkably clean in this unsugarcoated wikipedia listing.

I see them as a conservative group trying to counter-balance left-wing advocacy groups by simply monitoring the elections. And they are for that, of course, demonized by leftist smear sites and groups as --shocking!-- racist because they look in minority precincts for Democrat voter fraud. Looking amid the 93% of blacks who voted for Obama, the 71% of hispanics who voted for Obama, the 73% of asians who voted for Obama nationally, and 59 precincts in Philadelphia voting 100% for Obama and zero for Romney? Gee why would anyone think to investigate fraud there? HOW RACIST!

Granted, it wouldn't kill them them to report on Republican as well as Democrat voter fraud. If they want to focus on minority (i.e., Democrat) voter fraud, they could still report Republican transgressions from other external sources.
But obviously they feel the 80% liberal-dominant media gives plenty of exposure to those Republican fraud cases.

I saw the last two sentences there, about ALLEGATIONS. Not proof. And when Eric Holder's Justice Department gets around to prosecuting the Black Panther voter intimidation case from 2008, I'll believe again in equal justice under the law, and that this is not just another smear job to discredit a Republican advocacy group.
Even if they were found guilty in this one location, if it were a liberal election monitoring group, the media would be all "Ohh, this just a few people inside the organization, you can't judge a whole organization by a few bad employees."

And if you doubt my view, just look at the ACORN topic from three years ago, where James O'Keefe and Hannah Giles exposed an ACORN office, then two, then three, then four then five. As I recall, M E M was still saying "you can't judge an organization by a few bad people" even after 5 offices had been exposed!

So, innocent until proven guilty. In the case of ACORN and SEIU, and so on, they're never regarded as guilty, even after they shut down nationally and changed their name.

Actually O'keefe's eventually ended up in jail and before that was proven to be lying in his edited videos.

We all remember you fantasizing about raping him in prison, but, no he didn't go to jail.

My mistake, I forgot he was able to avoid jail time. I think we all know who actually fantasizes about O'keefe.

can someone please post pictures of O'keefe's tits? I want in on this whole fantasizing thing.

Hannah Giles is the half of that team worthy of fantasies.

And True The Vote, that Iggy slandered as a partisan group, has 1) been vindicated as a non-partisan group that simply monitored voter fraud on all sides, and 2) was a 501-(c)(4) group that was unfairly targeted and diminished in their effectiveness in the 2012 election, and possibly targeted by IRS more than any other 501(c)(4) group.
Not only by the IRS, but also OSHA, FBI, ATF, and other federal police and regulatory groups, that were apparently given the criteria to attack True The Vote and its owners with their confidential IRS tax information.