Originally Posted By: First Amongst Daves
The stark difference in tone. Trump turns it into a state of emergency. Trudeau addresses it as a problem worthy of resolution. His approach avoids screeching histrionics.


The issue at hand is the question of urgency. Trump speaks with it whereas Trudeau does not--even in the face of a world-wide terror campaign that targets Western Civilization with attacks that occur month after month if not week after week. And Trudeau invites the demographics that characterize this terror campaign.

Focusing on how people speak is diversionary to the fact of which liberals are scared shitless of discussing: indiscriminate immigration kills nations and their respective cultures. The meaningless platitude of "value in diversity" is finally being tested--and failing to live up to its reputation as a truism.

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I have lived in a monogamous culture (Japan) and I think it is the poorer for it. I had an argument in Japan with a white girl from Minnesota ("Land of 1000 Lakes!") who described the US as a "salad bowl", not a "melting pot". I don't understand how that came to be.


Homogeneity is the only quality that's going to save the identity of the Japanese. On that subject however, Japan is being overrun with aggressively intrusive Chinese and Korean foreigners that are either draining them of capital through war guilt or performing hostile property grabs through corporate maneuvering. Their younger people are beginning to realize this, and it's pissing them off immensely. With luck, Abe can push through the referendum that allows the Japanese to undo the damage done by the US's imposed post-War restrictions and rebuild their nationalist culture.

The big misconception about the Melting Pot, as it is historically applied to the US, is that it assumes the Founding Fathers operated on the premise of immigrants arriving from any nation intermixing and assimilating into the larger culture. However, people conveniently forget that it wasn't until the early-to-mid 20th century that the US started taking in non-European immigrants en masse. While Europeans hailed from varying cultures, they shared a continental familiarity among each other that allowed them to more or less effectively assimilate into the mother culture of individuals who were already like themselves.

The cultures that enter the US now, and for the the past 40-50 years, are way more alien than the Eurocentric demographics that comprised the main body of immigrants over a hundred years ago and beyond. That's why you have a salad, and not a melting pot.

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Australia is firmly committed to multiculturalism.


Then why did the Liberal/National Coalition, the primary critics of unchecked migration, win the elections?

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Each of these people have managed to hang onto their cultural backgrounds, but they have transitioned to being Australian at the same time.


What does that mean? In the US, all you have to do to be considered "American" is be a citizen regardless of your cultural loyalties--which is most certainly the same qualifying factor for "Australians". And if you try to question anyone on it, you're branded a "racist" or a "jingoist". Compare this to Sweden--a country that is irreparably further along the sliding scale of progressive enlightenment than our two nations--where cops don't dare refer to any ethnically non-Swedish criminals as anything other than Swedes lest they get fired, and the average ethnically Swede citizen will be arrested for fuck's sake. Now consider that every other Western nation sits somewhere in the middle of those two extremes, and their respective populations are all coerced in some fashion or another to consider all cohabitants--regardless of ethnicity--as national brethren. It really puts your standards for identifying "Australians" in perspective.

The reality here is that your ilk refuses to acknowledge the concept of nations having specific identities lest their individual cultures fly in the face of a globalist end result where everyone's compartmentalized and consolidated in the name of an abstract, high-minded idealism (political correctness) that doesn't give two shits about the actual people being forced to conform to its morality. It's cultural death and genocide. Plain and simple.

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Also it is hypocritical - I lived in Hong Kong and speak ten words of Cantonese. Yet I paid taxes, gave to charity, caused no civil unrest, and contributed to the profitability of the businesses for whom I worked.


Which doesn't negate the fact that you harmed its culture with your presence as a Caucasian individual. That being said however, Hong Kong is still largely a colonial culture if I'm not mistaken. There still exists a movement there to be re-established as British subjects. Puts a whole new spin on the idea of operating in Hong Kong as a European.

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Samuel Huntington (you'll like his book, Pariah, "The Clash of Civilisations and the Re-Making of the World Order", as it will reinforce your world view) notes that it is not first generation immigrants who cause trouble, but second and third generation immigrants who find themselves unable to assimilate and turn back to the morals of their parents or grandparents' homelands in order to understand their own identity. That's where you run into trouble, as most clearly seen in France. Let in tens of thousands of people, but they have to not be stuck in bleak concrete high rises with no hope because of stratification of opportunity.


This all assumes that the people who migrate to a given country actually seek to assimilate in the first place. Hispanic nations, Islamic nations, and China are all cabal states. They share respective operational philosophies, as immigrants, that dictate both subversive and separatist behavior upon entry into a given host nation. None of them even bother hiding the fact that they come to the US purely for welfare and birthright citizenship anymore. And all they do is form tight-nit no-go zones where no one speaks English and they keep their own little rule of law, irrespective of the ones that already exist.

Quite frankly, from my experience in California, it's the first generation Mexicans/Chinese/Koreans that actually want to assimilate into US culture that pass along US cultural values to their kids who, in turn, adopt them readily. They are all quite alarmed by the shrinking white majority. I'm not kidding you; they're scared.