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[At the end of citing a long list of laughable pro-Obama liberal media damage control, spin and excuses to diminish an undeniable crisis regarding the IRS corruption: ]

Former Enron adviser Paul Krugman took a few minutes out of his vacation to write on his New York Times blog that "it seems that there weren't actually any scandals, just the usual confusion and low-level mistakes that happen all the time, in any administration." He bases this on a Washington Post blog post from Journolist founder Ezra Klein, who claimed late yesterday morning that "the scandals that could reach high don't seem to include any real wrongdoing, whereas the ones that include real wrongdoing don't reach high enough."

The IRS scandal falls into the latter category, Klein claims:

• If new information emerges showing a connection between the Determination Unit's decisions and the Obama campaign, or the Obama administration, it would crack this White House wide open. That would be a genuine scandal. But the IG report says that there's no evidence of that. And so it's hard to see where this one goes from here.

Again, Klein is analyzing this in terms of ordinary political gamesmanship. But he has it backward. Suppose the IRS's abuses were not ordered or explicitly encouraged by the White House. That would mean, as Commentary's Jonathan Tobin puts it, that the agency "has so thoroughly absorbed the views of its political masters that it doesn't even recognize when it has crossed the line into illegal activity."

In other words, if this is the case, the left's hateful and slanderous campaign against its political foes, especially the Tea Party--the demagoguery of Obama, his fellow Democrats and their supporters in the media, led by the New York Times editorial page--was sufficient to prompt the IRS agents to cast aside their professional obligations and embark on a campaign of political abuse whose effect was to ease Obama's re-election.

In his testimony to the Senate Watergate Committee--whose hearings opened 40 years ago today--John Dean famously called that scandal "a cancer on the presidency." If Obama, his campaign or his White House aides are directly implicated in the IRS's abuses, this will be another cancer on the presidency, remediable by resignation or impeachment.

But if the IRS acted without direction from above--if it "went rogue" against the Constitution and in support of the party in power--then we are dealing with a cancer on the federal government. That, it seems to us, is a far direr diagnosis, one whose treatment is likely to be radical and risky.

They are a 501c(3). Please get your facts straight and then provide evidence defending your premise that they "have been vindicated as...non-partisan...."

And, good luck with that.

I see the "Libertarian" is more concerned about attacking the group that exercised its free speech rights then he is in attacking the government for its actions.

They are a 501c(3). Please get your facts straight and then provide evidence defending your premise that they "have been vindicated as...non-partisan...."

And, good luck with that.

True the Vote


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True the Vote (TTV) is a conservative[1][2] non-profit[3][better source needed] vote-monitoring organization whose stated objective is stopping voter fraud. True the Vote trains volunteers to be election monitors and to spot and bring attention to suspicious voter registrations that its volunteers believe are ineligible to vote. True the Vote strongly encourages citizens to be engaged during voting time, with its tag line, "If you see something at the polls that just doesn't seem right, record it."[4] It also holds local rallies to promote voter-fraud prevention legislation such as voter ID laws.[5] True the Vote is based out of Houston, Texas and their current president is Catherine Engelbrecht. Since founding True the Vote, Engelbrecht and her husband say they have been investigated by the IRS, FBI, ATF, and OSHA. She says she "absolutely" thinks she was targeted because she worked against voter fraud.[6] Americans for Prosperity and other Republican-leaning independent groups have sponsored meetings featuring speakers from True the Vote, including Ms. Engelbrecht.[7]

The progressive Internet outlet Talking Points Memo has criticized True the Vote for engaging in what it says is caging, voter intimidation, and advancing statements about the pervasiveness of voter fraud that it says are unfounded.[8][9] In 2012, Democratic Congressman Elijah Cummings opened an investigation into the organization.[10]





Contents
[hide] 1 History
2 2010 election cycle
3 Voter fraud and voter identification laws
4 2011-2012 Wisconsin recall effort
5 Congressional investigation
6 2012 alleged forgery of signatures in Ohio
7 2013
8 References
9 External links




History

True the Vote began as an outgrowth of the King Street Patriots, a non-profit Tea Party organization founded by Catherine Engelbrecht[7] and mostly active in Texas. Several members of the King Street Patriots, including its president, Ms. Engelbrecht, were dissatisfied with the voting process in Harris County, Texas during the 2008 election, especially the shortage of poll workers, which they believed "invited fraud and other problems at the polls."[11]




2010 election cycle

In August of 2010, Harris County Voter Registrar Leo Vasquez told ABC news (Houston affiliate KTRK), "We have evidence indicating violations of the Texas election code, falsified documents being submitted to this governmental office and possibly violations of federal election laws." His office's investigation found 1,597 instances of multiple applications for the same voter, 1,014 applications for folks already registered to vote, 325 for teenagers who are too young to register and 25 from folks who admitted on the application they are not even US citizens. Vasquez said the applications were all gathered by paid deputies with the group Houston Votes. Of the 25,000 applications the group filed in the last three months (June, July, August 2010), only 7,193 were actually for new voters. [12]

True the Vote's activities during the 2010 election cycle were largely confined to Harris County, Texas[citation needed]. True the Vote asserts that it uncovered numerous examples of voter fraud. For example, it states: "Vacant lots had several voters registered on them. An eight-bed halfway house had more than 40 voters registered at its address."[13] During the election, the Texas Democratic Party accused True the Vote of voter intimidation in largely Hispanic and African-American polling areas.[13]



Voter fraud and voter identification laws

True the Vote's website portrays voter fraud as largely a Democratic party problem. It routinely runs stories on election fraud being perpetrated by "liberals,"[14] or "Democrats".[15]

Like many groups pushing for strict voter ID laws, True the Vote asserts that voter fraud is widespread and deliberate, and relies on reports of individual incidents to support this assertion.[16] True the Vote argues for stronger voter ID laws in every state, and resists attempts to relax or remove voter ID laws. On December 13, 2011, it held a rally in Austin, Texas to support a stricter ID law passed earlier that year.[17]

True the Vote's 2012 national summit in Houston largely centered on charges of voter fraud. Speakers included ACORN "whistle-blower" Anita Moncrief, Hans Von Spakovsky of the Heritage Foundation, who insisted that "United States has a long history of voter fraud that has been documented by historians and journalists," and Fox News contributor Pat Caddell, who called opposition to voter ID Laws "the demise of our democracy" and "Slow motion suicide.”[18]




2011-2012 Wisconsin recall effort

In 2012, True the Vote joined several other Tea Party groups in "Verify the Recall", an effort that opposes the attempted recall of Wisconsin governor Scott Walker in the Wisconsin gubernatorial recall election. True the Vote provided software that it had previously applied to check signatures in petitions in Texas.[19] In order to electronically check over 1 million petition signatures, which had previously been posted online by the Wisconsin Government Accountability Board[20] True the Vote recruited thousands of volunteers (mostly out of state) to manually enter signatures into True the Vote's electronic database. True the Vote says it recruited over 13,000 volunteers.[21] True the Vote's website has run at least two stories suggesting that fraud is "rampant" in the recall effort, and frame the effort as decidedly political, saying that "we should not believe the claims of union-supporters and anti-Walker operatives who say that they collected more than one million signatures on petitions to recall Governor Scott Walker.".[22]

On February 28, Walker called for the data gathered by the "Verify the Recall" effort to be used as an official challenge of the recall.[23] This information was gathered and compiled entirely by True the Vote. True the Vote's executive summary contended that only 534,865 signatures gathered during the recall effort were valid.[24] There is evidence that True the Vote used a flawed process to discount signatures on the ballot, and that most of the signatures it discounted are, in fact, accurate.[25]

In the days before the June 5, 2012 recall election, True the Vote announced that it would be training volunteers to monitor polling places throughout Wisconsin, both online[26] and at a small number of locations throughout the state[27] True the Vote stated that hundreds of people showed up for training and later monitored the polls in Wisconsin,[28] and that these monitors were necessary because of "discrepancies" in the recall petition process as well as "Wisconsin’s long history of election fraud." True the Vote pledged to man every polling place in Wisconsin on the day of the recall election, which drew sharp criticism from the Barret campaign.[29]

Throughout the Wisconsin recall, True the Vote worked in concert with a group of local Tea Party groups including the "Wisconsin Grandsons of Liberty" and "We the People of the Republic", which helped True the Vote launch its recall signature verification efforts.[30] True the Vote's efforts during the recall election itself were conducted with an unnamed group of tea party organizations throughout Wisconsin.[citation needed]



CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATION

In October 2012, Maryland Congressman Elijah Cummings, a member of the Democratic Party, initiated an investigation into alleged voter suppression by True the Vote. Cummings wrote a letter to founder Engelbrecht, raising questions about voter challenges in Ohio, North Carolina, Wisconsin and Maryland. He indicated that if the efforts to challenge voter registrations were "intentional, politically motivated and widespread across multiple states, they could amount to a criminal conspiracy to deny legitimate voters their constitutional rights."[31]



2012 ALLEGED FORGERY OF SIGNATURES IN OHIO

In 2012, True the Vote applied to the Franklin County Board of Elections to place polling observers in Columbus area districts with large African-American populations. A November 6, 2012, news report in the Cleveland Leader stated that the FBCOE in Ohio had "determined" five of the six signatures on the application were likely forged.[32] Because this type of fraud is a fifth degree felony, the FCBOE declared that an investigation will be conducted after the election.[33]

Catherine Engelbrecht responded to the allegations by saying that the signatures on the initial form were genuine, and, following Franklin County instructions, were copied onto subsequent forms. She said that prior to the placement of observers, the candidates rescinded their approval following threats of lawsuits. She said that the allegation of forgery was "blatant slander", and that William Anthony, the director of the FBCOE, was formerly the chairman of the county Democratic Party. She requested that Anthony release the timeline of events surrounding the allegations and clarify whether there was any coordination with the Democratic Party.[34]




2013

In February 2013, True the Vote filed a federal lawsuit against St. Lucie County elections supervisor Gertrude Walker in Florida, claiming that she had failed to turn over public records related to the US House of Representatives election race between Allen West (R) and Patrick Murphy (D). They stated that withholding the documents violated the 1993 Motor Voter Law, which grants them permission to "publicly inspect and examine all voter registration and election records" in question.[35]

In May 2013, it was revealed that True the Vote was one of the conservative groups subjected to additional scrutiny by the IRS in applying for tax-exempt status. [36][37] True the Vote told Breitbart.com that new revelations that the IRS was discriminating in 2012 against conservative non-profits came as no shock to them. "We applied for nonprofit C-3 status early in 2010," said Catherine Engelbrecht, president of True the Vote, which has come under heavy assault from the Left for alleged voter suppression. "Since that time the IRS has run us through a gauntlet of analysts and hundreds of questions over and over again. They've requested to see each and every tweet I've ever tweeted or Facebook post I've ever posted. They also asked to know every place I've ever spoken since our inception and to whom, and everywhere I intend to speak in the future. We've met all requirements, responded to everything, and provided case law in such areas where appropriate," Engelbrecht stated. "The IRS treatment of us lends to the appearance of a politically motivated abuse of power and an assault on free speech."[38]

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What she did was inexcusable and certainly doesn't deserve any type of applause.

I apologize to America’s young people, whose dashed dreams and dim employment prospects I had laughed at, believing these to be a direct result of their voting for Obama.

On closer examination, it turns out that young voters, aged 18-29, overwhelmingly supported Romney. But only the white ones.



According to Pew Research, 54 percent of white voters under 30 voted for Romney and only 41 percent for Obama. That’s the same percentage Reagan got from the entire white population in 1980. Even the Lena Dunham demographic — white women under 30 — slightly favored Romney.

Reagan got just 43 percent of young voters in 1980 — and that was when whites were 88 percent of the electorate. Only 58 percent of today’s under-30 vote is white and it’s shrinking daily.

What the youth vote shows is not that young people are nitwits who deserve lives of misery and joblessness, as I had previously believed, but that America is hitting the tipping point on our immigration policy.

The youth vote is a snapshot of elections to come if nothing is done to reverse the deluge of unskilled immigrants pouring into the country as a result of Ted Kennedy’s 1965 immigration act. Eighty-five percent of legal immigrants since 1968 have come from the Third World. A majority of them are in need of government assistance.

Whites are 76 percent of the electorate over the age of 30 and only 58 percent of the electorate under 30. Obama won the “youth vote” because it is the knife’s edge of a demographic shift, not because he offered the kids free tuition and contraception (which they don’t need because it’s hard to have sex when you’re living with your parents at 27).

In 1980, Hispanics were only 2 percent of the population, and they tended to be educated, skilled workers who got married, raised their children in two-parent families and sent their kids to college before they, too, got married and had kids. (In that order.)

That profile has nothing to do with recent Hispanic immigrants, who — because of phony “family reunification” rules — are the poorest of the world’s poor.

More than half of all babies born to Hispanic women today are illegitimate. As Heather MacDonald has shown, the birthrate of Hispanic women is twice that of the rest of the population, and their unwed birthrate is one and a half times that of blacks.

That’s a lot of government dependents coming down the pike. No amount of “reaching out” to the Hispanic community, effective “messaging” or Reagan’s “optimism” is going to turn Mexico’s underclass into Republicans.

Any election analysis that doesn’t deal with the implacable fact of America’s changing demographics is bound to be wrong.

Perhaps the reason elections maven Michael Barone was so shockingly off in his election prediction this year was that, in the biggest mistake of his career, Barone has been assuring us for years that many of these Third World immigrants pouring into the country would go the way of Italian immigrants and become Republicans. They’re hardworking! They have family values!

Maybe at first, but not after coming here, having illegitimate children and going on welfare.

Charles Murray recently pointed out that — contrary to stereotype — Hispanics are less likely to be married, less likely to go to church, more supportive of gay marriage and less likely to call themselves “conservative” than other Americans.

Rather than being more hardworking than Americans, Hispanics actually work about the same as others, or, in the case of Hispanic women, less.

It seems otherwise, Murray says, because the only Hispanics we see are the ones who are working — in our homes, neighborhoods and businesses. “That’s the way that almost all Anglos in the political chattering class come in contact with Latinos,” he notes. “Of course they look like model Americans.”

(Black males would apparently like to work more. Nearly 20 percent of black males under 30 voted for Romney, more than three times what McCain got.)

An article by Nate Cohn in the current [Dec 2012] New Republic argues, as the title puts it: “The GOP Has Problems With White Voters, Too.” As proof, Cohn cites Jefferson County, Colo.; Loudoun County, Va.; Wake County, N.C.; and Somerset County, N.J., all of which went Republican in presidential elections from 1968 through 2004, but which Romney lost in 2012.

Smelling a rat, I checked the demographic shifts in these counties from the 2000 to the 2010 census. In each one, there has been a noticeable influx of Hispanics (and Asians, who also vote Democrat), diminishing “the white vote” that Cohn claims Republicans are losing.

Between the 2000 and 2010 census, for example, the white population of Jefferson County, Colorado, declined more than 90 percent to less than 80 percent, while the Hispanic population more than doubled, from 6 percent to 14 percent.

In Loudoun County, Virginia, the Asian population tripled from 5 percent to 15 percent and the Hispanic population doubled from 6 percent to 12 percent. Meanwhile, whites plummeted from 83 percent to 69 percent of the population.

Similarly, Wake County, N. Carolina, shifted from 74 percent white to 66 percent white in the past decade, while the Hispanic population doubled, from 5 percent to 10 percent, and the black population stayed even at about 20 percent.

In Somerset County, NJ, the Hispanic population grew by 63 percent and the Asian population grew by 83 percent since 2000. The number of whites has remained steady, resulting in a population that is now just 62 percent white.

These were the counties chosen by Cohn, not me, to show that Republicans are losing “the white vote.” Except they’re not so white, anymore. With blacks, Asians and Hispanics voting 93 percent, 73 percent and 71 percent for Obama, Republicans have to do more than just win the white vote. They have to run the table.

Romney got a larger percentage of the white vote than Reagan did in 1980. That’s just not enough anymore.

Ironically, Romney was the first Republican presidential candidate in a long time not conspiring with the elites to make America a dumping ground for the world’s welfare cases. Conservatives who denounced Romney as a “RINO” were the ones doing the bidding of the real establishment: business, which wants cheap labor and couldn’t care less if America ceases to be the land of opportunity that everyone wanted to immigrate to in the first place.

It’s extremely difficult to track vote fraud. Most states put only half-hearted efforts into purging their voter-registration rolls of the dead or those who’ve moved out of state. Prosecutions for vote fraud are rare. But prosecutions for perjury are rare, too — and not because it “doesn’t exist.” Earlier this year, the Virginia Voters Alliance found that more than 44,000 people were simultaneously registered to vote in Maryland and Virginia. Catherine Englebrecht’s True the Vote found some 6.9 million overlapping voter registrations in the 28 states they examined. For those unburdened by conscience who live close to the border, it’s more than possible to vote early and often.

Several House seats, and one very significant Senate seat, were probably won by Democrats on the strength of illegal votes. In 2008, the authors note, Senator Al Franken won by just 312 votes in Minnesota. That seat was the sixtieth vote to give Democrats a filibuster-proof supermajority to pass major legislation such as Obamacare. “[Voting] participation by just 0.65 percent of non-citizens in Minnesota is sufficient to account for the entirety of Franken’s margin,” the authors write. “Our best guess is that nearly ten times as many voted.”

McCray, however, was defiant, telling Robinson, “You may be the attorney now, but I promise you, you won’t be later.”

Earlier this year, the Virginia Voters Alliance found that more than 44,000 people were simultaneously registered to vote in Maryland and Virginia. Catherine Englebrecht’s True the Vote found some 6.9 million overlapping voter registrations in the 28 states they examined. For those unburdened by conscience who live close to the border, it’s more than possible to vote early and often.

A senator snatched a student’s phone while being asked about Georgia voter registration uproar

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https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4113...n-over-voter-id

"Student member of Democratic Socialists of America". That tells me everything I need to know. A provacateur trying to start some shit, and the Senator turned it around on him. He obviously has his phone back, so there was no theft.

When you were talking about a shameful thing that happened in a Georgia campaign, I thought you were talking about this:

Stacey Abrams: ‘Blue Wave’ Is ‘Comprised of Those Who Are Documented and Undocumented’


If your party were waving Soviet flags, they could not be more anti-American.

Come to think of it, Bernie Sanders already did that, for 10 years while he was mayor of Burlington. He displayed a Soviet flag in his mayor's office.

When I see some credible facts to back that up, I'll believe it, M E M.

But it looks to me like your side just trying to manufacture another divisive race-card to pull.



These aren't human beings and decent Americans, these are the Democrat Socialists of America. Cheap stunts, manufactured racial incidents, and other deceitful allegations are built into their DNA.

The kid has his cel phone, it wasn't "stolen". He probably got in Sen Perdue's face, and annoyed, the Senator taught the marxist punk a lesson. Making him wonder for a few minutes if he'd ever get his phone back. The little marxist tried to intimidate, Perdue intimidated back. Not how I'd have handled it, but whatever. I might have tased the fucker for getting too much in my face.