A gunman killed 20 people and injured 26 others Saturday after he opened fire at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas, state and city officials said.
"Texas grieves," said Gov. Greg Abbott at an evening news conference following the deadliest mass shooting in America since a gunman killed 26 people at a church in Sutherland Springs, Texas in November 2017. "The scene was a horrific one," said El Paso Police Chief Greg Allen, who added that many of the injured had life-threatening injuries.
The suspected gunman has not been publicly named, but two law enforcement officials identified him to The Associated Press as 21-year-old Patrick Crusius, a native of the Dallas areAllen said his department received initial reports of the shooting at 10:39 a.m. and first responders arrived six minutes later. Police asked people to stay away from the area and to look for missing family members at a school being used as a reunification area. El Paso Police Sgt. Enrique Carrillo told reporters shortly before 1 p.m. that one person was in custody and there was no longer an "imminent threat" to the area.
At an earlier news conference, El Paso Police Sgt. Robert Gomez said the suspect was taken into custody without incident and no law enforcement officers fired their weapons. The Walmart was near capacity at the time of the shooting, with as many as 3,000 people inside along with 100 employees during the busy back-to-school shopping season. It was unclear what connection the suspect had to El Paso. Allen said investigators were examining a manifesto that may have been written by the suspect and would indicate a “nexus to a hate crime,” but declined to offer details. The suspect will likely face capital murder charges, Allen said.
The 5th mass shooting this year.
This one appears to have been by a white supremacist (details still pending) who has posted "bigoted hate speech" online extensively, and even posted a manifesto. Although the details of what he posted, or even the shooter's name, have yet to be disclosed.
Wow, immediately tying the shooting to Donald Trump. Gee, I didn't see that one coming.
In contrast to the Hodgekinson shooting of House Republicans on a baseball field, who the media bent over backward not to report was a zealous Bernie Sanders supporter and campaign volunteer.
Or fired L.A. police officer Christopher Dorner who went on a shooting spree of L.A. officers, who named CNN and MSNBC anchors and pundits by name in his own manifesto as opinions he exalted as his influences and inspiration. Whose shooting spree one black CNN pundit described as "exciting", and "like a real life Django Unchained."
Or the many other shooters over the last 10 years with clear liberal ideology, clearly stated, that the liberal media refused to report, even as they tried to portray each shooter as a right wing Tea Party member, but each time within a day or two were revealed in truth to be ideologically Democrat/Left.
Trayvon Martin shot by neigborhood watch guy Zimmerman topic. Where the media portrayed Zimmerman as a white racist right wing Tea Party Republican, even though he was in fact a black/hispanic/Jewish/immigrant registered Democrat who voted for Obama
Aurora, Colorado movie theatre shooting, where one of the liberal networks falsely reported that James Eagan Holmes was a Tea Party member (based on someone with the same name, not him), despite that he was a liberal.
I don’t think it’s a coincidence that mass shootings rose about the same time that the first batch of baby boomers’ offspring became teenagers.
We have been raising a couple of generations of psychopaths for a while now. No morality, no sense of individual responsibility, increased alienation, etc.
I hope this at least leads to the deaths of songs that glorify psycho shooters, like Vince Staples and Diddy.
There is no version of this where you come out on top. Maybe your army comes, and maybe it’s too much for us, but it’s all on you. Because if we can’t protect the Earth, you can be damn well sure we’ll avenge it.
Hello? Put Natasha on the phone. Who is this? This is her fucking son's father. Who is this? This is her fucking son. ..........oh....... Call back in 20 minutes. *click*
Boy, you could get lost in a sky like that. I wish I had those balloons again.
While it has liberal bias and other accidental or deliberate innacuracies, Wikipedia provides an overview of events, and updates with additional details as they become available.
It annoys the hell out of me how the news media over and over says "hate speech", but never citing exactly what the shooter said in his manifesto. This article quotes it in extensive detail.
I learned more from these two links than I have in the last 2 days, at least 4 hours a day, watching CNN, MSNBC, OAN and FOX.
These lying Democrats whack the hornet's nest with a stick, and then bemoan they might get stung.
Trump does not speak "hate" against hispanics or blacks or any other ethnic group. He has done more than any president in 50 years to raise the opportunities quality of life by all measures of all these minority groups. The Democrats lie and twist the facts to allege otherwise.
Trump does not hate hispanics, he only voices objection to those who are here ILLEGALLY.
Trump does not disparage blacks, he criticizes the objective fact that black inner cities, in Democrat political hands for decades, are in fact rat-infested and out of control with murders and crime. As I recall within the last two weekends, Baltimore had a bloodier weekend of gun shootings than even Chicago. There is nothing "racist" about citing the facts of the severe poverty and crime that expose Rep. Elijah Cummings as corrupt, incompetent, and not serving the people of his district.
And just this weekend, Chicago had so many gun deaths that one hospital was overwhelmed with gun casualties, and had to stop receiving patients, and send them to another hospital. What exactly is it that Donald Trump said that was untrue, and just "hate speech". It seems to me that the lying Dems who call Trump a "racist" at least twice in every sentence with no examples to back it up are the ones who are engaging in hate speech. And torching America to the ground in the process.
Remind me again: Which side is engaging in hate rhetoric?
Trump is addressing specific issues, and attempting real solutions that secure our borders and improve the lives of tens of millions of Americans, black, white, hispanic or otherwise. And he has the best statistical numbers in at least 50 years to demonstrate he is genuinely helping the people he is alleged by Democrats to be racist against.
Democrats on the other hand are resorting to incendiary racially charged rhetoric and deeply personal slanders of a president who is achieving for the middle class, minorities and the poor where they, the Dems, have failed for decades.
Also, the sheriff has wasted no time in stoking the race war fire with his "white supremacy" statement. He's clearly another Scott Israel connected to the handlers that executed this operation.
...this happened two days ago. As a result of YOUR rhetoric, Dems.
And note that this guy couldn't possibly be a "white racist" he's clearly not white, by name and appearance I'd guess he comes from somewhere in central asia. Not "white racist", just an enthusiastic Trump supporter. And this is no Jussie Smollett staged attack, look at his face, this guy was clearly beaten within an inch of his life. Not much reporting of this in the liberal news. It doesn't fit their lying false narrative, on multiple levels.
Hopefully some day enough voters will force change. (about the mas shootings). But don't let me derail this thread's subject about hating the free press and democrats.
Allegedly, the Dayton shooter was a leftwing, antifacist, Elizabeth Warren supporter, who favorably quoted AOC rhetoric.
I'm sure our totally unbiased media will be just as willing to blame them for Dayton as they to blame Trump for Ohio.
I saw a report that the Dayton shooter praised the Antifa shooter who shot up a Spokane, Washington ICE detention center a few weeks ago (the Antifa guy was killed by police). A shooter who in his online posts used rhetoric lifted verbatim from statements by Rep. Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez. Mike Tobin on Laura Ingraham reported that the Dayton shooter's dominant interests were a mixture "satanism, socialism, leftist politics, guns and violence".
There were three major shooting events in the last few days: 1) El Paso, 2) Dayton. And lastly 3) Chicago, which actually surpassed the previous two with 52 people shot. Only one of those shootings (El Paso) had an overtly racist shooter (although he as well had leftist/environmentalist craziness mixed into his online manifesto, that a large part of the population needs to be killed off to save the earth, so while racist, he can't be honestly categorized as "right wwing" or a Trump supporter.) One of the three shootings. But all you hear on CNN and the other liberal media is "white supremacist racist racist racist racist racist racist"!
It's as if those black-on-black and leftist shootings never even happened. The liberal media don't care about these people shot, they only care about what they can slice and dice to fit their narrative.
Hopefully some day enough voters will force change. (about the mas shootings). But don't let me derail this thread's subject about hating the free press and democrats.
Of all the laws either proposed or actually passed, I fail to see any laws that would have prevented any of these shootings. Sandy Hook, Aurora Colorado, Las Vegas, the two L.A. muslim shooters, the muslim shooter at Pulse night club in Orlando, Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland FL, El Paso, Dayton, Baltimore, Chicago. Please detail how any laws proposed would have prevented EVEN ONE of these shootings.
All these shooters had legally purchased their weapons, and went through a long waiting period before receiving them. In the Sandy Hook case, the guns were purchased and legally owned by his mother. In the Parkland case, Nicholas Cruz depite many police calls and expulson from his high school, no documentation was made that would have prevented his lawful purchase of guns.
So ultimately, any of the laws proposed or passed only punish lawful gun owners, and do nothing to prevent these kind of mass shootings. In fact, they only prevent responsible gun owners from being armed on the street to stop one of these mass shooters.
Soon after the attack, law enforcement confirmed that the gunman was Connor Stephen Betts, a 24-year-old from Bellbrook, Ohio.[18][11][19] On Betts' Twitter account, he described himself as a leftist, anime fan, and metalhead, and had posted tweets that opposed Donald Trump and supported Elizabeth Warren, socialism and Satan.[20][21][relevant? – discuss] According to Newsweek, Betts was a registered voter for the Democratic Party.[22] According to law enforcement, Betts had no criminal record except for minor traffic offenses.[23][24][25]
Two former high school classmates stated that Betts was suspended from Bellbrook High School after he made lists of other students he wanted to kill and rape.[26] The "hit list" was discovered in early 2012 and resulted in a police investigation.[26] A classmate also stated that Betts was bullied and had planned to shoot up the school.[23] The notion of Betts having been bullied was disputed by other classmates, who described him as a misogynist and a bully, reporting that he enjoyed scaring women while attending the school.[21] Over the past year, Betts performed live vocals for a pornogrind band called Menstrual Munchies, which Vice News described as a "misogynistic, male-dominated" music scene.[27] Betts' high school time girlfriend stated that at the time they dated Betts complained of hallucinations, hearing voices and psychosis, and was afraid of developing schizophrenia.[28]
During the day, police and the FBI searched the shooter's home and found writings that showed interest in killing people.[5] As of August 5, 2019, police investigators stated that the investigation is ongoing and that they are not prepared to speculate about motivation.[29][5] On the late afternoon of August 5, 34 hours after the shooting, Dayton police chief Dayton Police Department Chief Richard Biehl stated that "We have a lot of evidence still to go through,... based on where we're at now, we are not seeing any indication of race being a motive."[30] And stated that police were unable as yet to determine whether he shot his sister deliberately or unknowingly.[30]
Betts had additional ammunition magazines with him, and was wearing body armor, a mask and hearing protection during the attack.[8][31] He reportedly ordered the semi-automatic firearm[a] used in the shooting online from Texas, and the firearm was transferred to a local firearms dealer in Ohio, where he picked it up.[9]
Clearly white supremacy and the rhetoric of Donald Trump were the cause of this shooting.
I hope this at least leads to the deaths of songs that glorify psycho shooters, like Vince Staples and Diddy.
In this era, maybe these songs could be a contributing factor, in a culture where even cops are increasingly a target. And where there is an absence of fathers to teach discipline or instill any kind of moral compass in these kids.
But glamorization of psycho shooter outlaws has been going on since the days of the frontier west, Billy the Kid, John Dillinger, mobs of the 1920's, James Cagney in Public Enemy, Warren Beatty in Bonnie and Clyde, Woody Harrelson in Natural Born Killers, Winona Ryder in Heathers, on and on. But point taken, I think the line between entertainment and actual violence was more clear in decades past. The lack of values taught now makes lawlessness in entertainment an increasing inspiration for violence.
Gun-control supporters stood outside of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s home in Kentucky on Sunday night — protesting and hurling death threats at him — while broadcasting on Facebook Live.
“Murder Turtle!” the demonstrators can be heard shouting on video, in reference to McConnell’s infamous nickname. “Come out, come out, wherever you are,” a person says at one point, while the others continue to yell.
“The bitch home — we keep seeing the lights go on and off,” another says. “This hoe really thought he was going to get ready to be at home after he hurt his little punk ass shoulder. Bitch, don’t nobody give a f–k! F–k your thoughts and prayers, Mitch. F–k you, f–k your wife, f–k everything you stand for. ” The “emergency protest” — as the demonstrators described it — took place Sunday night while McConnell, 77, was reportedly home recovering from a broken shoulder after a fall he suffered. About 20 to 30 people attended.
Louisville Metro Police confirmed that the group was outside the senator’s residence, telling The Post they were “protesting peacefully.” “We are assisting Capitol Police,” a spokesman said.
The department was unaware, however, of the threats being made on the 2-hour FB Live video. In one clip — taken from the footage and posted online by Capitol Hill communications director Ben Goldey — a woman can be heard talking about stabbing McConnell in his heart. Protesters can be seen holding signs saying, “F–K YOU MURDER TURTLE!”
“Hopefully there’s somebody out there with some voodoo dolls of these bitches,” a man says, to which the woman replies: “Just stab the motherf–ker in the heart, please.” “We’re out here because [McConnell] wants thoughts and prayers, when another white man massacres people,” the protester later adds.
At one point, she gets upset and begins shouting at the Capitol Police — along with several others. “You can protect his ass,” the woman says. “Maybe I do wanna go to jail.”
The footage was posted on the FB page of Channelle Helm, a local Louisville resident who regularly posts about politics and gun control. The woman used the app to “check in” at McConnell’s house on Monday night. Democratic lawmakers and gun control supporters have been blasting McConnell — in the wake of the El Paso and Dayton shootings — for not calling a Senate vote on a gun reform bill that was passed by the Democratic-controlled House back in February.
Many have urged him to call Senate back into session and revisit the matter. “The House passed HR8, a Bipartisan Background Checks Act, *5 months ago* and the Senate has yet to vote on it,” Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez tweeted Sunday. “It was one of our 1st major priorities after ending the gov shutdown. You’ve been sitting on it since February giving bogus excuses.”
Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer on Sunday said, “One awful event after another. Leader McConnell must call the Senate back for an emergency session to put the House-passed universal background checks legislation on the Senate floor for debate and a vote immediately.” Nine people were killed and another 27 wounded in the Dayton mass shooting. Twenty-two died in the El Paso massacre and at least 24 were injured.
You just can't make this stuff up.
Aside from the vulgarity and utter illiteracy of the comments quoted, the irony of their own threats and mob intimidation seem to escape them. They are calling on McConnell to pass legislation they allege will prevent killings, even as they, in a complete lack of regard for laws, incite people outside Sen. McConnell's home and on social media to violently murder the Senate majority leader.
Your law-abiding, civil and principled Democrat/Left on full display.
... the overwhelming majority of blacks killed in the U.S., between 91% and 93% annually in any of the last 30 years, are black-on-black shootings. They don't give a damn about the overwhelming majority of black deaths at the hands of other blacks, they only care about the shootings that rationalize their hatred of whites, Republicans, and Trump.
Hopefully some day enough voters will force change. (about the mas shootings). But don't let me derail this thread's subject about hating the free press and democrats.
Of all the laws either proposed or actually passed, I fail to see any laws that would have prevented any of these shootings. Sandy Hook, Aurora Colorado, Las Vegas, the two L.A. muslim shooters, the muslim shooter at Pulse night club in Orlando, Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland FL, El Paso, Dayton, Baltimore, Chicago. Please detail how any laws proposed would have prevented EVEN ONE of these shootings.
All these shooters had legally purchased their weapons, and went through a long waiting period before receiving them. In the Sandy Hook case, the guns were purchased and legally owned by his mother. In the Parkland case, Nicholas Cruz depite many police calls and expulson from his high school, no documentation was made that would have prevented his lawful purchase of guns.
So ultimately, any of the laws proposed or passed only punish lawful gun owners, and do nothing to prevent these kind of mass shootings. In fact, they only prevent responsible gun owners from being armed on the street to stop one of these mass shooters.
These mass shootings are not a regular thing in other countries. Why?
Particularly her editorial about 19 minutes in, about the demagoguery of the Democrat/Left, and their chorus section of anchors and pundits in the Newspeak liberal media, straining to allege that Trump is a "racist" and "white supremacist president". Even as Trump has condemned the attack repeatedly already, specifically saying white supremacists have to be eradicated. Ingraham cites that the Democrats have trapped themselves in a litany of unpopular position with voters: 1) not wanting to stop illegal immigration, 2) wanting to abolish ICE, 3) bemoaning as racist even the deportation of criminal illegals, 4) taxing uninsured Americans to provide health insurance to illegals.
And given the Democrats' highly unpopular political stances, they are flailing and groping for an issue to deceive the public and change the subject. And that deceit is calling Trump a racist and a "white nationalist".
Again: Under Trump, legal green-card immigration actually increased from 1.1 million to 1.3 million. And as it was before Trump's presidency, immigration remains about 75% hispanic, and only 18% white/European. That is hardly a policy consistent with being "white racist" or "white nationalist" and "making America white again", and continues the decline of the white majority at the same rate as before his presidency.
Unrelated to Trump or Ingraham, I would like to see a policy that continues the ethnic ratios at their current level: 76.5% White, 13.4% Black, 5.9% Asian, 2.7% Other/multiracial, 1.3% Native American, 0.2% Pacific Islander. Rather than annual immigration that can only be planned to eliminate the white majority. A sustained ratio that doesn't continue to radically transform the nation, and annihilate white America.
Contrary to Democrat rhetoric and slander, Donald Trump doesn't speak badly about black or hispanic people, his policies have actually increased their job opportunities and wages.
Trump is critical of (race unspecified) those that don't obey our laws and come here legally. Trump has only mentioned the countries that are known for having the highest ratios of illegal immigrants, human trafficking an drug trafficking. And those who are known to be criminals before they ever arrived here, and prey on Americans AND legal immigrants (MS-13 being a prime example, and other gang members, drug traffickers, human traffickers, rapists, and murderers, of which many can be cited with specific examples.) Trump mentions Mexico and Central American nations by name, because they are statistically the overwhelming mass of illegals. Mexico alone according to an Associated Press article I've cited previously has 59% of all illegal immigrants. Central America is about 15% (although its ratio is increasing,a nd Mexico's is slightly declining). So those two regions alone are about 75% of all illegal immigration. And Mexico alone is the corridor though which all illegals are trafficked, even illegals from the muslim world, asia or sub-Saharan Africa. Should Trump be discussing Sweden or Canada when he mentions where illegals are coming from? No. He specifically lists the nations that are the center of the problem. And even in mantioning specific nationss, Trump doesn't refer specifically to racial groups, he only says "illegals", and those illegals could be from Asia, Latin America, Ireland or continental Europe. Of any race.
Democrats' "white racist" narrative about President Trump is a lie, and completely manufactured.
Hopefully some day enough voters will force change. (about the mas shootings). But don't let me derail this thread's subject about hating the free press and democrats.
Of all the laws either proposed or actually passed, I fail to see any laws that would have prevented any of these shootings. Sandy Hook, Aurora Colorado, Las Vegas, the two L.A. muslim shooters, the muslim shooter at Pulse night club in Orlando, Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland FL, El Paso, Dayton, Baltimore, Chicago. Please detail how any laws proposed would have prevented EVEN ONE of these shootings.
All these shooters had legally purchased their weapons, and went through a long waiting period before receiving them. In the Sandy Hook case, the guns were purchased and legally owned by his mother. In the Parkland case, Nicholas Cruz depite many police calls and expulson from his high school, no documentation was made that would have prevented his lawful purchase of guns.
So ultimately, any of the laws proposed or passed only punish lawful gun owners, and do nothing to prevent these kind of mass shootings. In fact, they only prevent responsible gun owners from being armed on the street to stop one of these mass shooters.
These mass shootings are not a regular thing in other countries. Why?
There may not be as many, but as I cited in the topic back then, they occur in France, Germany, China, India, virtually every country. And I linked a Wikipedia list of shootings, going back to the 1850's.
Despite liberal tendencies to hate their own country, this is not a problem unique to the United States. It happens in high schools and nations worldwide. Would that it did not.
Yes I think we all realize that mass shootings happen elsewhere too but the frequency of them that happens here sets us apart from other countries with similar socioeconomic backgrounds. Recognizing a problem like this and searching for solutions is actually loving the country. Hurling partisan insults not so much.
Yes I think we all realize that mass shootings happen elsewhere too but the frequency of them that happens here sets us apart from other countries with similar socioeconomic backgrounds. Recognizing a problem like this and searching for solutions is actually loving the country. Hurling partisan insults not so much.
And by "loving the country", your side means disarm it.
Yeah, that really worked well in Nazi Germany. And Cuba, and Venezuela...
The same way Democrats say "support the troops" to push for surrender and withdrawal in Iraq and Afghanistan. Which doesn't result in peace or saving lives, it results in ISIS.
The Democrats are so reflexively deceitful over the last two decades, they no longer even know how to be truthful and honest. Or even appear to be.
Your side "loves the country" by destroying and splintering it politically for their own short-term gain. Two of the Democrat 2020 candidates, immediately after lyingly blaming Trump for the El Paso shooting in the most incendiary way, immediately exploited the tragedy to mail out e-mails for fundraising. The Democrats just kneejerk reflexively rant about banning guns every time there's a shooting. Knowing that would not solve the problem, but still cynically exploit public emotions to advance their anti-gun agenda.
Democrats advance background checks for buying ammunition, to create a backdoor way to disarm gun owners. Democrats under the Obama government bought up billions of rounds of ammunition for DHS to similarly disarm gun owners, and clear the shelves of any available ammunition. Democrats push a ban on assault weapons to similarly make a beach-head toward banning all guns. And when banning assault weapons doesn't stop shootings (and how could it, assault weapons are 1% of all shootings) then the next time they'll push for banning of handguns and other guns. Until all guns are banned.
Whether it's Obamacare or guns or taxation or gay rights or whatever, the Democrats consistently advance their agenda by deceiving the public and deliberately hiding their true agenda. They "love the country" by destroying it.
Well I know I love my country and know love of country doesn't break down by a partisan side. I don't have time to watch partisan shills like Tucker either. I'm sure he says stuff you like that makes you feel better. Personally I liked what Obama had to say about rejecting language from leaders espousing hatred for others. Pretty solid principle that I think most republicans actually agree with. I have not seen any polling on it though.
Well I know I love my country and know love of country doesn't break down by a partisan side. I don't have time to watch partisan shills like Tucker either. I'm sure he says stuff you like that makes you feel better. Personally I liked what Obama had to say about rejecting language from leaders espousing hatred for others. Pretty solid principle that I think most republicans actually agree with. I have not seen any polling on it though.
In other words you won't watch the presented facts that might change your worldview.
Your side constantly bemoans "hate" from Trump and Republicans, even as they themselves engage in hate and demagoguery of Republicans. And slander Trump in particular.
For example, they allege that Trump is a white nationalist/white supremacist. There is nothing you can quote, absolutely nothing, to back that up.
Trump is calling for national unity and healing, for both sides to work together to stop this from happening again. Democrat (and their allies in the liberal media) spin that as Trump being a white nationalist, and stoking the violence with his rhetoric.
Trump continues to admit LEGAL green-card immigrants at the same or higher numbers annually as what preceded his presidency (previously about 1.1 million LEGAL green-card immigrants a year, his first year 1.3 million, and of that, only 18% of that 1.1 million is white/european).
How is that "white nationalist/white supremacist". How is that "making America white again?" as Pelosi and other Dems constantly and lyingly demagogue?
And what in what I said above (or in Tucker Carlson's editorial) is "partisan shills" rhetoric? No. Those are the facts.
It is the Democrats, particularly on CNN and MSNBC, who constantly speak in shill rhetoric and bumper sticker slogans and repeat talking points that are blatantly untrue. I don't "like it because it makes me feel good" or because it presents a narrative I want to hear, I like it because it shaves through the liberal propaganda and presents the true facts Democrats and the liberal media pundits are trying to hide with their racially charged lying propaganda.
Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.
EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.
"Whether white or black or brown, we all bleed the same red and share the same hopes and dreams." --Donald Trump, in his inauguration speech, January 20, 2017.
Wow, what a hater, what a bigot. Clearly hates people of color. Clearly a white nationalist.
Here's an overview AND TRANSCRIPTS of the three major networks' coverage of Trump's clashes with Bet O'Rourke and other Dems, in each case, the networks selectively omit the vicious attacks on Trump, and portray Trump's twwitter-post reaction as if it was the cataalyst, rather than the reaction to Democrats' incendiary rhetoric:
They don't factcheck Beto O'Rourke and other Dems' comments about Trump being a "racist" and "white nationalist", or cite ANY supporting facts, or cite the lack of facts supporting the allegation, they just report Beto O'Rourke's quoted words matter-of-factly as if they were true. And in doing so, these "news" shows are part of the liberal Newspeak propaganda war, to front the Dems' lying talking points.
I would not be surprised if the networks had communicated by e-mail or phone conference directly with Democrat political leaders to coordinate these attacks. As with the Wikileaks-exposed Hillary Clinton and DNC e-mails in 2016, and with journo-list and other examples in elections before that, there is a collaborative Democrat/liberal media history of that occurring. Which is illegal, by the way.
Mika Brzezinski has taken to an ugly new level the liberal media's accusations against President Trump in the wake of the weekend's mass shootings.
On today's Morning Joe, Brzezinski actually accused the President of wanting such mass murders to happen: "Isn’t it okay to deduce that at this point this is what he wants? . . . I mean, this is a President who seems to want these things to happen. How else can this be explained?”
Here's the transcript of the exchange:
MSNBC Morning Joe 8/6/19 6:39 am EDT
EUGENE ROBINSON: There could be another Oklahoma City bombing, you know? Or something like that. I mean, we’re going to have the equivalent of a racist, right-wing, white-nationalist 9/11 here I think, and I make that prediction — you know, I don’t think I’m going out on a limb here and —
MIKA BRZEZINSKI: No, you’re not.
JOE SCARBOROUGH: There are a lot of things he could do --
BRZEZINSKI: -- but he won't. And so you have to ask the question, Joe, and I’ll ask you. Isn’t it okay to deduce that at this point this is what he wants? He is inciting hatred, inciting violence, inciting racism. If he doesn’t unequivocally call it off and say, this is wrong and we stand together against this and we are doing this, this and this to help fight hate crimes — I mean, this is a President who seems to want these things to happen. How else can this be explained?
Note that just earlier, the Washington Post's Eugene Robinson said he didn't think he was "going out on a limb" in predicting a "racist, right-wing, white-nationalist 9-11." Brzezinski could be heard agreeing with him. The chyron that the show put up during Brzezinski's rant—"The Threat of White Nationalism and Mass Murder"—tends to confirm that in saying that Trump "wants" these things to happen, she had in mind the "white-nationalist 9-11" that Robinson predicted.
So Brzezinski is apparently accusing President Trump of wanting "white-nationalist" atrocities on a 9-11 scale to happen. This is Trump Derangement Syndrome at its most unhinged. It was even too much for Joe Scarborough, who while accusing Trump of "inciting hatred," didn't embrace her lunatic notion that the president wants mass murders to happen.
The "facts" as presented on MSNBC. A guest wildly speculates, based on nothing, that "right wing extremists" are planning a massive "Oklahoma City/9-11 scale" attack on a El Paso. And Mika Brzezinski further wildly speculates that Trump "wants this to happen". DESPITE THAT TRUMP REPEATEDLY OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS HAS SHARPLY CONDEMNED WHITE SUPREMACISTS.
How are Brzezinski and Scarborough still on the air?
If any Republican did a fraction of this crazy shit they would be off the air and never work again.
President Trump flew to Dayton, Ohio and El Paso, Texas on Wednesday to visit with wounded and pay his respects to the people who were killed in a pair of mass shootings over the weekend. Instead of that kicking off their political coverage for the night, CBS Evening News chose to champion former Vice President and Democratic frontrunner Joe Biden for tearing into the President while campaigning in Iowa.
“It was truly an extraordinary day today with Americans on edge and the former Vice President delivering a searing indictment of President Trump's moral leadership. Joe Biden accused Mr. Trump of, quote, "fueling a literal carnage in America with his incendiary rhetoric,” gushed anchor Norah O’Donnell.
After reporting that Biden “in Iowa today accused President Trump of inspiring mass shootings in Texas and Pennsylvania”, political correspondent Ed O’Keefe played an uninterrupted soundbite of Biden’s anti-Trump rant that lasted 46 seconds:
How far is it from Trump saying "this is an invasion" to the shooter in El Paso declaring, quote, "this is attack is a response to Hispanic invasion of Texas"? How far is it from white supremacists and neo-Nazi in Charlottesville, Trump's very fine people, chanting, "you will replace us." To the shooter at the tree of life synagogue in Pittsburgh saying, "Jews committed genocide on his people." I don't think it's that far at all. It's both clear language and in code. This President has fanned the flames of white supremacy in this nation.
In wrapping up his report, O’Keefe noted: “CBS News has learned Biden was outraged and furious by the shootings and the President's response and began writing the speech over [the] weekend.”
To his credit though, O’Keefe added: “One other note-- Trump's aides noted the Pittsburgh synagogue shooter had posted anti-Trump messages on the internet.”
But, one thing he did leave out was the fact that President Trump denounced former KKK leader David Duke during the 2016 election. On top of that, Duke had since thrown his support behind Democratic Congresswoman Ilhan Omar (D-MN) because of her unwavering anti-Semitism, which went largely ignored by the liberal media.
When CBS finally got around to reporting on the President’s visit with victims, they mainly focused on the protesters. “Now to the President's visits today to El Paso and Dayton to honor the 31 people killed in mass shootings. Protesters demanding action against gun violence were waiting for him,” O’Donnell she boasted.
The first thing correspondent Janet Shamlian highlighted in her report was a Trump supporter in a Make America Great Again hat who was getting targeted by the angry mob:
JANET SHAMLIAN: Tempers flaring at the El Paso Walmart memorial even before the President's visit today. Mourners telling a woman who came wearing a MAGA hat it was disrespectful.
PROTESTERS: That hat is hate! That hat is hate!
Shamlian also showed off how a local newspaper blasted the President and how Texas Democratic “Congresswoman Veronica Escobar turned down a White House invitation to join Mr. Trump.” She went on to hyped the “angry residents along the motorcade route and at the hospital accused the President of doing nothing to stem gun violence.”
The transcript is below:
CBS Evening News August 7, 2019 6:31:20 p.m. Eastern
NORAH O’DONNELL: Good evening. It was truly an extraordinary day today with Americans on edge and the former Vice President delivering a searing indictment of President Trump's moral leadership. Joe Biden accused Mr. Trump of, quote, "fueling a literal carnage in America” with his incendiary rhetoric, this just hours before the President arrived in El Paso to pay his respects to victims of the massacre, but has no far denied press cameras. Leading our coverage tonight is Ed O’Keefe.
[Cuts to video]
JOE BIDEN: We have a problem with this rising tide of supremacy, white supremacy in America. And we have a President who encourages and emboldens it.
ED O’KEEFE: Former Vice President Joe Biden in Iowa today accused President Trump of inspiring mass shootings in Texas and Pennsylvania.
BIDEN: How far is it from Trump saying "this is an invasion" to the shooter in El Paso declaring, quote, "this is attack is a response to Hispanic invasion of Texas"? How far is it from white supremacists and neo-Nazi in Charlottesville, Trump's very fine people, chanting, "you will replace us." To the shooter at the tree of life synagogue in Pittsburgh saying, "Jews are committed genocide on his people." I don't think it's that far at all. It's both clear language and in code. This President has fanned the flames of white supremacy in this nation.
O’KEEFE: Biden, the Democratic Party front-runner, noted that white nationalists and Ku Klux Klan leaders had celebrated Mr. Trump's 2016 election.
BIDEN: Our President has more in common with George Wallace than he does with George Washington. [Transition] Trump is trying to weaken our institutions: the press, the courts, the Congress-- precisely because they are the only checks on his power. That's what this is all about, the abuse of power.
O’KEEFE: As Biden spoke, the President tweeted from Air Force One calling Biden's speech "So boring." Told later about the tweet, Biden replied:
BIDEN: He should get a life.
[Cuts back to live]
O’DONNELL: Ed O’Keefe joins us. So what caused Biden to speak out like this today?
O’KEEFE: Well, Norah, CBS News has learned Biden was outraged and furious by the shootings and the President's response and began writing the speech over want weekend. We also spoke with the Trump campaign, which pointed out the President's response included denouncing while white supremacy. One other note-- Trump's aides noted the Pittsburgh synagogue shooter had posted anti-Trump messages on the internet.
O’DONNELL: All right, Ed O’Keefe, thank you.
Now to the President's visits today to El Paso and Dayton to honor the 31 people killed in mass shootings. Protesters demanding action against gun violence were waiting for him. Janet Shamlian has that and President's response to those demands.
[Cuts to video]
JANET SHAMLIAN: Tempers flaring at the El Paso Walmart memorial even before the President's visit today. Mourners telling a woman who came wearing a MAGA hat it was disrespectful.
PROTESTERS: That hat is hate! That hat is hate!
SHAMLIAN: A large number of protesters turned out near a hospital the President visited.
UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: He put a target on us, and now all these people are dead.
SHAMLIAN: Becky Canales and her husband say they're angered by the President's divisive rhetoric.
BECKY CANALES: He doesn't care. If he cared, he would do something about it, but he doesn't.
SHAMLIAN: President Trump and first lady Melania met with victims and first responders, but largely stayed out of public view. A front-page editorial in the El Paso Times attacked the President for characterizing this border town as “one of the most dangerous cities in the nation” in his state of the union speech earlier this year.
And Congresswoman Veronica Escobar turned down a White House invitation to join Mr. Trump. This morning, the President was in Dayton, Ohio, again in the role of comforter in chief, following Sunday's shooting which killed nine people.
He visited with first responders and victims. This photo was taken by hospital personnel. Press cameras were denied access to the events. Outside... Angry residents along the motorcade route and at the hospital accused the President of doing nothing to stem gun violence.
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: We're going to Dayton first.
SHAMLIAN: As the President was leaving the White House this morning, he said he would bring up an assault weapons ban but said there was no political appetite for it at the moment. That may be the case on Capitol Hill, but in a recent poll, there seems to be plenty of will to ban the sale of assault weapons.
[Cuts back to live]
The hostility both here and in Dayton is unusual in a time of national tragedy and makes it even more difficult for the nation to heal. Here in El Paso, funerals for the victims starts tomorrow. Norah.
O’DONNELL: All right, Janet Shamlian, thank you.
Again, just an infomercial for Joseph Biden's campaign, no journalistic scrutiny of what was said, no pushback or factcheck of what Biden asserts.
And based on what Trump has said over the last 3 years condemning white supremacists, and what Trump has done for the improved lives and economic gains of hispanics and blacks over the last 3 years, Biden lies that are blatantly untrue and yet go completely unchallenged by CBS (and the other networks).
Bottom line, every news report in the liberal media is to prop up the Democrat talking points, and to damage Trump and the Republicans. With no news media attempt to sift through the liberal demagoguery and report the true facts. Only to support the Democrat side they clearly voted for.
Santino William Legan, a 19-year-old male, was identified by authorities as the shooter.[26][27] Legan spent most of his life in Gilroy, but in the months before the shooting lived in the remote town of Walker Lake in Mineral County, Nevada.[28]
An Instagram account was opened four days before the shooting by a Santino William Legan of the same age,[17] who self-identified as being of Italian and Iranian descent.[29] On the day of the shooting, Legan made two posts to the account, one of which complained about the event congesting the countryside with "hordes of mestizos and Silicon Valley white twats" and instructed people to read the 19th-century book Might Is Right, a pseudonymous proto-fascist manifesto that promotes racial violence and anti-Semitism and is popular in white supremacist and neo-Nazi circles.[17][30]
That's something of an Orwellian double-think, two contradictory assertions in the same sentence. 1) that he's Iranian and hates Jews and "white twats", and 2) that he's inspired by "proto-fascist" literature (19th century literature that precedes and is connected with fascism as formed in 1922 by Mussolini) and (implied) therefore neo-nazi and white supremacist.
The fact that he's Iranian could as easily suggest that he's motivated by islamic hatred of Jews and whites. The media is quick to make it a white racist crime, rather than as the evidence shows, a crime against whites.
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Authorities discovered a Remington 870 shotgun inside Legan's car.[12] Police and federal agents searched Legan's father's house in Gilroy.[24] Investigators also searched the gunman's apartment in Walker Lake, Nevada, where they reportedly discovered a bulletproof vest, empty shotgun and rifle boxes, a gas mask, and empty ammunition boxes, and pamphlets on guns; investigators also confiscated three hard drives and three thumb drives.[31]
Investigators have not determined a motive for the attack.[12][27] The investigation turned up evidence that Legan had been "exploring violent ideologies" and had created a list of potential targets, including the Garlic Festival as well as "religious organizations, courthouses, federal buildings and political institutions involving both the Republican and Democratic parties." Because of this list, a domestic terrorism probe has been opened.[12] Searches found that Legan owned both left-wing and right-wing literature,[32][27] including reading material on white supremacy and Islamic extremism.[31]
Brian Levin of the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at Cal State San Bernardino stated that research has shown some mass shooters have "a broad range of motivations and, at times, conflicting ideologies, which can make it difficult to classify attacks and pinpoint their motivations."[12]
He was a known gang member and has a history of violence and prior crimes. He is hispanic, and all his victims were hispanic. NOT EXPLORED: Whether he was born in the U.S., an immigrant, or illegal alien.
And by the oddest coincidence, Comcast refuses to air OANN (One America News Network), a pro-Trump conservative news channel. Fortunately, I have Direct TV.
In the opening minutes of his program last night, Jesse Waters made a powerful editorial on the deliberate misrepresentation of the facts regarding the El Paso and Dayton shootings.
And if not selectively omitted by the liberal media, the facts in particular of the El Paso shooter's stated ideology make clear he was not a suppoerter of Trump or at all influenced by Trump. That he had in fact talked about shooting Trump as well!
When a 20-year-old man reportedly walked into a Springfield, Missouri, Walmart carrying tactical weapons and wearing body armor on Thursday, an off-duty firefighter carrying his own concealed weapon held the suspect at gunpoint until police arrived.
The suspect was pushing a shopping cart through the store and recording a video on his cell phone when the store manager pulled the fire alarm, evacuating customers. The suspect made his way out an emergency exit where the firefighter held him for three minutes until police arrested him.
His intent obviously was to cause chaos here, and he did that,” Springfield police Lt. Mike Lucas told the Springfield News-Leader.
He was reportedly carrying a “tactical rifle” and another gun, and he had more than 100 rounds of ammunition. Police said no injuries were reported
“At this time, the investigation is on-going and we are working to determine his motives,” police said in a Facebook post.
Following the mass shooting in El Paso, Texas, Walmart said on Monday that the company would not stop selling firearms or change its open carry policies. Unlike its competitor Costco Wholesale, Walmart allows shoppers to carry firearms openly or concealed in cities and states where it is legal.
“There has been no change in company policy,” spokesman Randy Hargrove said in an interview with the Washington Post. “We follow all federal, state, and local regulations.” _______________________________
Madeline Osburn is a staff writer at the Federalist and the producer of The Federalist Radio Hour. Follow her on Twitter.
Another shooting prevented by an armed concealed-carry private citizen. Who, if the Democrats had their way, would not have been armed and dozens would have been killed.
I love how Democrats like Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren, Dianne Feinstein, Bill De Blazio and Gavin Newsom want to take away the guns of private citizens, while making damn sure they have weapons themselves, and/or armed guards, with automatic weapons, and ammo-clips that hold way more than the number of bullets they regulate for everyone else.
Democrat hypocrisy, piled up so high as to reach the gates of Heaven.
Well I know I love my country and know love of country doesn't break down by a partisan side. I don't have time to watch partisan shills like Tucker either. I'm sure he says stuff you like that makes you feel better. Personally I liked what Obama had to say about rejecting language from leaders espousing hatred for others. Pretty solid principle that I think most republicans actually agree with. I have not seen any polling on it though.
In other words you won't watch the presented facts that might change your worldview.
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I don't watch stuff people post, don't have the time to waste on partisan talking heads especially . I do know that after the El Paso shooting Carlson came out with the "white supremacy is a hoax" garbage. I'll trust the FBI over Tucker on that.
That's pretty funny and ironic, coming from a guy whose primary source is MediaMatters, and can be depended on to parrot whatever the lying daily talking points of the Democrat/Left are.
The "partisan talking heads" you "refuse to watch" is Tucker Carlson, who in addition to hosting one of the most popular shows on ALL of cable television, not just among the most popular on Fox News. In addition he runs the news site The Daily Caller. He reports facts and interviews journalists and authors presenting information, you can't just dismiss all that as "partisan". Far more factual, I might add, than the namecalling, insults and bumper-sticker slogans on CNN or MSNBC. I'm hard pressed to find "news" anymore on those two channels, just pure partisan demagoguery and unbridled Trump-hate.
Regarding Tucker Carlson's alleged " 'white supremacy is a hoax' garbage", there was nothing Carlson made up. It is a fact that the El Paso shooter made clear in his manifesto that his racist/environmentalist ideology was formed long before Trump was even a candidate, let alone became president. The El Paso shooter was motivated by some kind of weird environmentalism, that he wanted to stop ALL immigration to the U.S., not just illegal immigration, or hispanic immigration. His ideas are completely independent of Trump, but the liberal media and liberal partisans like yourself desperately reach to allege Trump's rhetoric had something to do with it.
What did Trump say that inspired this attack? SPECIFICALLY. What? You can't quote one sentence to support that. Because it doesn't exist. As compared to the Spokane, Washington attack on an ICE facility a month ago, where the Antifa shooter used specific words and phrases that were directly taken from Democrat Rep. Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, and other Democrat leaders. Yet I never hear the clowns of the Left blame Democrat rhetoric for clearly inspiring liberal violence.
What Trump has actually said is: 1) that we have to secure our borders and control immigration into this country. 2) That we want and need immigration to fill the jobs as our economy has improved under his policies. But that they have to come in the right way, LEGALLY, and that this uncontrolled illegal migration has to stop.
3) That among illegals, many criminals are entering our country: drug traffickers, human traffickers, gang members, violent criminals, rapists, murderers, drunk drivers, who victimize thousands of U.S. citizens and LEGAL immigrants annually. That Mexico is the largest source of illegal immigrants (59%), and the Central American nations the next largest (15%). In fact, Latin American nations combined are over 81% of all illegal immigrants. That is not demagoguery, those are facts. Which Trump has cited. And he welcomes and considers valuable those who come LEGALLY.
4) Trump does not engage in hate speech "against all hispanics". He only condemns those (race unspecified) who enter our country illegally.
5) He does not in any way spread or endorse, or have any connection to, white supremacist or white racist rhetoric. That only exists in the vicious insinuations of the Democrat/Left. In point of fact, Trump has repeatedly condemned white nationalism and white racist ideology and violence. The worst Democrat misquote of Trump, where he said of Charlottesville, VA protestors, "There are good people on both sides", Trump was referring to 2,000 people there protesting just to keep the Robert E. Lee statue by the city hall, the good people who asked the 200 to 300 white supremacists to leave. But public statements by Democrat leaders and the liberal media lyingly imply that all in favor of the Lee statue were white supremacists, rather than a small minority.
6) Trump has cited correctly that the women and children who come in illegally are raped and abused at an enormous rate. The most conservative estimate, quoted by ICE official Tom Homan and others in ICE and Border Patrol, is 31% of illegals trafficked are raped. As I have linked and sourced in the Soros-funded caravan topic, many human rights groups (leftist groups) have estimates far higher, in the range of 60 to 80% raped while crossing illegally. Is it more humane to let these illegals in, and encourage this abuse of hundreds of thousands of trafficked women to continue? Or is it more humane to stop it, and end the rapes?
7) In addition to that, illegal human trafficking enriches the Mexican drug cartels who control that trafficking, and the Mexican cartels now make a third of their profits off human trafficking. Billions in the coffers of drug cartels.
8) In addition to that, the masses illegally entering our country (at least 2,000 a day surrendering to Border Patrol, and God knows how many thousands more who slip in undetected) are carrying diseases and infecting U.S. citizens with diseases like Tuberculososis, Mumps, Measles, Typhoid, new strains of flu, flesh eating bacteria, and AIDS/HIV, among others. Diseases wiped out decades ago in the U.S. that are now each epidemic in over 20 states.
9) In addition to that, an increasing number of illegals are categorized by Border Patrol as "Other Than Mexican(OTM)" and present an increasing islamic terror threat, being trafficked from the mid East and Africa, and could contain ISIS or Al Qaida cels, or with the current outbreak in Africa, either by random infection or deliberately weaponized, Ebola.
There is no "propaganda" or "racist/white supremacist" hatred in Trump discussing these things. The President, the Center For Disease Control, ICE, Border Patrol, and Department of Homeland Security are simply citing the known facts. That Democrats and the liberal media try to pretend don't exist.
