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Your problem with Rove isn’t that he changed. The attacks on law enforcement even by someone as partisan as Rove were just wrong . It’s not a morally fuzzy thing. You choose a different path to put it in the kindest words.

Meet some of the violent Jan. 6 rioters Donald Trump keeps calling 'hostages'
By Ryan J. Reilly
WASHINGTON — The way former President Donald Trump tells it, the men and women who stormed the Capitol because they believed his lies about the 2020 presidential election are "hostages" and “unbelievable patriots” who are being mistreated by the justice system.

But an NBC News review of hundreds of cases against Jan. 6 defendants found that just 15 people charged in connection with the Capitol attack are currently being held pretrial at the order of federal judges. That number of pretrial detainees has decreased in recent months, as more and more Jan. 6 defendants have taken plea deals or been found guilty, and as federal judges have been hesitant to hold new arrestees in pre-trial custody more than three years after the attack.
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15 people not hundreds WB.

Hi Matter Eater Man. Where have you been.

Hi SOM
I fell in love got married but lost them to cancer. So I grieved and starting to rebuild a new life again. Heave stuff but I’m doing fine. This was my second time around losing someone from cancer and got every bit of support I could this time. Some really amazing and good people out there! How about yourself?

That's NOW,.

But I've seen reports for most of the last 4 years of HUNDREDS held indefinitely in prison, under terrible conditions, mold infested plumbing and undrinkable water, forced by some guards to drink out of toilets, beatings by guards in their cells, tormented in their cells with deliberate severe cold or heat, at least one recovering cancer patient denied medications and causing his cancer to come back. Not given soap or shampoo or razors to clean themselves, kept in darkness for prolonged times, unwarranted solitary confinement, beatings for complaining about their conditions to family or lawyers, beaten for requesting a lawyer, or denied access to attorneys at all.

As I said, only about 600 were filmed on surveillance video going inside AT ALL.
And about 600 were initially rounded up and arrested. (Though except for Ray Epps, virtually none of the FBI false-flag agents, who were never identiffied or arrested, but were the ones committing much of the worst violence, and inciting others to. Such as Ray Epps. He the only one identtified that I can recall. So FBI was forced to prosecute him, but prosecuted with a Hunter Biden-like sweet plea deal. )

But then around May-June after Merrick Garland was confirmed and sworn in as AG, his DOJ/FBI ramped up the arrests to 1,300, arresting many OUTSIDE the Capitol who committed no violence or vandalism
Arresting and jailing them only to keep the "insurrection" narrative alive and expanding, arresting people (like Brandon Straka) who never entered the Capitol, or did anything to warrant arrest or imprisonment.
1,300 people tormented, bankrupted by legal fees, who lost their jobs, who lost their businesses and homes, because they could no longer pay the bills.
Just to torment hem.
And to keep a lying Democrat narrative alive.

The reason they were finally released is because the 40,000 hours of surveillance video was finally released. That's why Jacob Chansley was finally released. Probably about the time all these others were released.
But that's not any more acceptable, and doesn't make the Democrat-Bolseviks' authoritarian injustice to those falsely imprisoned just go away unnoticed.
If Trump is elected, I expect all the FBI and DOJ perpetrators of this false narrative and mass incarceration to endure prosecution.
And that includes the warden and guards who tormented them. And a lot of Comey, McCabe and Strzok-like vicious fucks inside the FBI, DOJ and Biden administration.

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How is it I missed this?


'Angry Patriot Hippie': Boca Raton woman sentenced to 18 months in prison for threatening to shoot FBI agents


Amazing how this lady was arrested in my city, and I'm just now hearing about it, about 18 months after the fact.

And arrested for what?
Basically for sounding off outrage about FBI's abuse of power. She didn't threaten anyone specifically, or detail any specific plans to actually attack anyone. She just said if FBI showed up at her door, she would defend herself, in a very hypothetical situation. It's not like she was planning an attack on the FBI. I think it was a stretch to prosecute her.
I quoted Ted Nugent about 3 years ago, saying basically the same thing, and he was not prosecuted. Probably because Ted Nugent can afford the best legal defense.
Whereas this lady the FBI can torment and make an example of, because she doesn't have the resources to fight back and legally defend herself..

I didn't see any specific things the FBI charged and prosecuted her for.
And I didn't see any evidence that she ever visited Washington DC on Jan 6th, or that she went in or anywhere near the Capitol building.

Oh fuck, that's heavy. So sorry to read that.

Sorry Dave, guilty of over sharing and I’m really doing fine. Just bought a house with someone and it feels good to be coming home to them.

OK then. Glad life is giving you roses after such a tragedy. Good for you.

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JUDICIAL WATCH: WITNESSES AND INVESTIGATION REVEAL "NO GOOD REASON" FOR ASHLI BABBITT SHOOTING



I get the impression in the testimony shown by the other police officers in the room at the time of the Ashli Babbit shooting, that they are humming and hawing and trying to cover for Byrd.
But they still let on that Michael Byrd was highly distraught and "upset" after the shooting.

Because Byrd saw she was unarmed, and therefore he was guilty of a serious crime.
And in virtually any other police department, they would not have closed ranks and covered for him. And instead, Byrd would have been immediately suspended, then fired, and then be on his way to jail for a killing that was completely without justification.

Judicial Watch should test things out better and try charging at a police officer yelling and screaming to simulate a riot situation. This is blood on Trump’s hands. She was there because she sadly put her in faith in a fraudster. One who waited a long time to ask the rioters he asked come on Jan 6 to leave. The truth is Trump could have prevented her death by asking them to leave when the violence started. Trump only did so after she was shot.

You will go to your grave trying to fly that false canard.
An unarmed girl was murdered, and all you can say is "she deserved it." AND TRUMP IS TO BLAME !



So she was unarmed and behind a locked door where only her face and neck were visible through the glass window, and she deserved to be shot by a police officer ?!?

Trump throughout the day, in his 12 noon to 1:11 PM speech, in his text messages on social media all afternoon, at least every 20 minutes, in his 4:20 PM video, at all times urged only PEACEFUL demonstration in support of Republican House and Senate members LEGALLY AND CONSTITUTIONALLY challenging the rigged 2020 electoral vote, and all anyone supporting Trump wanted was a delay of 2 or 3 weeks to investigate and debate the issue on the joint-session House / Senate floor, in televised debate of all aspects.

If given JUST THAT, 74.3 million Trump supporters like myself would feel there was an honest public discussion, full disclosure and a recount of the votes and process in question.
Just as there were THREE re-counts in 2000, in front of the global media.
And the rioters were not Trump supporters, they almost all were false-flag agents, at least 70 of them, DISGUISED AS Trump supporters.

That 2000 Bush vs. Gore type recount did not happen in 2020, and that is what makes this election so suspect.
The reluctance of Democrats, DOJ and FBI to do even a CONSTITUIONALLY PRESCRIBED re-count, of ballots that are legally ordered to be held for just such a re-count for 22 months.
To do ANY KIND of warranted investigation, of an election so suspicious.

And if you ask for that recount or an investigation, you're a dangerous white supremacist, you're an insurrectionist, you're (gasp, choke!) RIGHT WING !
And Democrats rushed to shred the ballots weeks after the election, and wiped clean computers and flash-drives of evidence. No chance of a Constitutionally laid out process for a recount possible.
Hey, nothing suspicious or authoritarian, NOT AT ALL...

And there was absolutely nothing Trump could have done to prevent Michael Byrd from shooting an innocent woman in the throat through a locked door. That is a deranged non-sequitur by you, with no logical basis in fact.
There was video I linked about 2 years ago, that showed Ashli Babbitt about 10 minutes or less before she was shot, arguing with one of the false-flag lefty fake Trump supporters next to her, that I interpreted as her not approving of what they were doing, she visibly yelled in his face and shoved him in clear disagreement.
Then a few minutes later, this was one of the guys smashing the glass and pounding on those doors. She was a former Military Police officer, and if you've ever met an MP, they are very meticulous and by the book and cite the law, they know exactly what the law is, and they are not at all the insurrectionist rioting revolutionary type. So she was likely trying to make them leave and stop them from doing any damage. Until she was shot. FOR NO REASON.

When Trump got his fat ass back and plopped himself down after his Jan 6th rally to watch the show he created he chose not to ask his people to leave as things got violent. If he had just acted like a decent human being and tried shutting down the violent rioters Ashli wouldn’t have been shot. She came that day because Trump asked her too. He waited hours to ask his people to leave. Hours he watched law enforcement getting beaten up, ignoring people from his party to shut things down and Ashli getting shot before finally asking his people to leave. Has anyone ever asked him why he waited to do that? Do you ever ask yourself why WB?

You are wilfully ignorant of the true facts, in your pathological hatred of Trump, and eagerness to slander him.


For the BILLIONTH time :

1) Trump in his speech (12 noon-1:11 PM) advocated "PEACEFUL and patriotic" support of Republican Senate and House members inside the Capitol, who were LAWFULLY and CONSTITUTIONALLY challenging the authenticity of the electoral vote count. Following the EXACT procedure prescribed in the Constitution to lawfully do so.

2) Trump throughout the day sent out texts on social media for his supporters to "remain peaceful", roughly every 20 minutes from 1:11 PM when he finished his speech until about 4:20 PM when he released a short video ordering any of his supporters to "go home". And it probably took him at least 30 minutes up till 4:20 to compose, videotape and download that statement onto social media.
Breach of the Capitol happened between 2:30-2:45 PM.
And verification of that by Trump and his staff probably took another 30 to 60 minutes.
(Remember all the false reports on 9-11-2001 that were not proven false until hours later. And similarly, other large-scale live events covered over the last 23 years? Remember George Zimmerman reported to be "white" and a "right wing Tea Party member", who later turned out to be Ecuadoran, hispanic and black, and a registered Democrat who voted for Obama?
Remember the Aurora, Colorado movie theatre shooter, who also was falsely reported to be a "right wing Tea Party member", who turned out to be another left-wing Democrat?
Remember Jared Loughner shooting Gabby Giffords? Same thing.
False reports blaming conservatives, barely a liberal media correction and apology later.
So saying Trump "KNEW" at a specific time is total B.S., confirmation of the exact timeline on Jan 6th events was determined much later than during the event. )

Trump's White House staff had to confirm there had actually been a Capitol breech before he prepared and downloaded a videotaped statement to urge his protesters to go home. I've been over and over the timeline with you a dozen times. Trump acted in a timely manner.
But again,there is evidence the rioting was overwhelmingly done by false-flag agents provocateur, NOT by actual "PEACEFUL and patriotic" Trump supporters.

3) There is so much evidence that there were at least 70 total false-flag rioters (at least 20 undercover Trump-hating FBI agents, at least 20 DHS agents, at least 10 DC Metro police. And at least 20 Anttifa led by John Earle Sullivan, on video giggling about getting Trump supporters blamed for their own actions) , all DISGUISED AS Trump supporters.
And only 60 total incidents of actual violence or vandalism combined.
Out of well over 100,000 PEACEFUL Trump supporters.

There were no guns (admitted by Jill Sanborn, in her Senate testimony), and even the 97% Democrat-donating FBI's Jan 6th investigation found no firearms confiscated, and no evidence of an organized insurrection, NONE orchestrated or encouraged by Trump or anyone else.

So what you say, M E M, is a Democrat-Bolshevik false narrative, a lie, a slander, with no basis in fact.

Trump watched his people beat on law enforcement and break into the Capitol and waited hours to ask them to leave. He sent some mild texts as his people used various weapons to beat on law enforcement. Useless texts from an unfit commander in chief watching his people.

I don't see any facts to back that up.

Trump NEVER incited violence, he ALWAYS instructed peaceful and lawful protest and respect for law enforcement. He even ordered up to 20,000 National Guard in advance of January 6th to insure no rioting, that DC mayor Muriel Bowser (in writing) , Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi obstructed from being deployed to protect the Capiol. AND THEN, ironically, BLAMED TRUMP for what THEY obstructed. .
And at every stage, all day, Trump instructed his supporters on Jan 6th to be peaceful.

When it was confirmed there was a breach of the Capitol building around 2:45 PM, confirmed 30 minutes to an hour after that, Trump composed a video and downloaded it on social media around 4:20 PM, instructing all his supporters to go home.
Which to the astonishment of Capitol police there, his supporters immediately did. Faster than even the police who handle crowds in Washington Square every day could have imagined. That immediate departure and obedience is NOT the action of "insurrectionists", but of people who are naturally law-abiding and love their country, even amid an election that was stolen.

It was only later, in the weeks and months AFTER January 6th, that we could see many of the faces posted on FBI's website were quietly taken down and never arrested, never identified.
Because they were their own undercover federal agents, DISGUISED AS Trump supporters.
Many of whom were the actual perpetrators of violence and vandalism, NOT the actual Trump supporters.
Ray Epps, for example. And many others that FBI did a better job of hiding their identities and protecting them from arrest and prosecution, their own agents, there to frame Trump supporters. . The ones who did the actual violence.
And to the FBI's disappointment, actual Trump supporters, with few exceptions, did not take the bait and follow them into violence.
Even the Oath Keepers convicted were led into it by undercover FBI agents, one undercover agent shared a hotel room the night before with the head of Oath Keepers, who gave the leader a plan for attack, and therefore led them to do things they would never have imagined or done on their own.
Following an FBI-delivered riot plan, so a Democrat-scheming FBI could frame Trump supporters as "violent insurrectionists."

A joint venture, by George Orwell's FBI, hand-in-glove with George Orwell's liberal media, and George Orwell's Democrat party.

Given that his followers were engaging in illegal acts like assaulting law enforcement and vandalism you can’t believably call them law abiding. They were very willing to break the law for Trump. And there’s multiple time lines of Jan 6 that show Trump never tried getting help in to defend the Capitol when the attack started. Even his video upload was actually the 4th one and he refused to address it live. Cops getting sprayed and beaten right by him and he makes clear where his sympathy lies. It’s with those that were willing to break the law. MisterJLA has posted multiple videos of the day that capture the violence that you try to cover up.

You're a delusional cuntrag. Shut the fuck up!

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You're an infant, with no ability to articulate a rational thought, so all you do is scream profanitty-laden insults like a crazy homeless guy, at myself and others who are actually able to compose SOURCED and FACTUAL arguments you are incapable of even understanding.

Dipshit.

I just watched a program on C-Span2, titled Ashli Babbitt; The Untold Story of the Women of January 6th, by author Jack Cashill., that runs 1 hour and 5 minutes.
https://archive.org/details/CSPAN2_20240901_125500_Jack_Cashill_Ashli

https://www.amazon.com/ASHLI-Untold-Story-Women-January/dp/B0D48Y5V7L
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/ashli-jack-cashill/1145467134
https://posthillpress.com/book/ashli-the-untold-story-of-the-women-of-january-6




A very low-key and personable guy, who details the suppressed facts about January 6th, and the evidence that protesters were set up by FBI, Capitol police, John Earle Sullivan and his Antifa Salt Lake City group, and the evidence that federal and Capitol police staged traps to smear Trump supporters.
The false narrative of "5 people KILLED by Trump supporters", whereas the truth is ZERO people were killed by Trump supporters.
But he cites, conversely, witnesses and facts that Trump supporters WERE KILLED by unnecessary Capitol police violence and firing concussion grenades into peaceful crowds of Trump supporters just standing around peacefully protesting.

He provided extensive facts to confirm wha he says, that also support what I have been sourcing and linking here for close to 4 years.
There was every attempt by false-flag agents to provoke Trump supporters to riot.
And when they did not, and protesters deflected every attempt to make them riot, Federal agents and Capitol police manufactured pre-orchesrated ways to frame them, to falsely accuse them, imprison them, and in 4 cases, KILL them.
Roseanne Boyland and Kevin Greeson are specifically cited, that Capitol police tear-gassed Boyland to death, and Greeson was killed in his pre-diagnosed fragile shape by a police concussion grenade. And police falsified the reasons for their deaths, that the police themselves needlessly caused. That a Democrat/Left media eagerly parroted, without investigating the true facts.

He also cited many incidents where Capitol police have gotten away with similar violence and killings of protesters in the past, without punishment, way before Jan 6th ever occurred.


The same program repeats at 11:55 PM tonight, and can also be viewed at the link I gave (above) on C-Span.
And these programs usually repeat several times over weeks and months. Again tomorrow morning at 8:55 AM

World Net Daily conspiracy theorist...slam dunk case, Wonder Moron!

Seriously Dave, tell me you are not using a World Net Daily nutter as a source.

Since he spent an hour on C-Span citing sources, just saying he has written for World Net Daily doesn't immediately disqualify Jack Cashill as being wrong in what he cites detailing what actually happened on January 6th at the Capiol.
It is on you guys to cite what he said that is PROVEN to be factually wrong.
And he wasn't.
I've cited and linked articles and sources for the last 4 years that corroborate what he said from other sources.

There's also the fact that C-Span felt Jack Cashill was serious enough an author to devote an hour of their air-time to covering his book about events on January 6th.


I haven't looked at WorldNetDaily for about 15 or so years, but they were 100% right on this one, back then :

"Obama's plan: Jeopardize U.S. Batlefield Superiority"
https://www.rkmbs.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1071416#Post1071416



But since you made me aware of WND again, here's a well-sourced recent article on why Kamala Harris is infinitely unqualified to be president:
https://www.wnd.com/2024/08/democrats-secret-strategy-for-winning-novembers-election-no-matter-what/


And by the way, it seems to me that "conspiracy theorist" is a label the Democrat/Left hurls at anyone who cites verified FACTS they don't like.
You should save your scorn for these flat-out liars and conspiracy theorists exposed as wrong, usually deliberately wrong, in the oh-so-respectable mainstream liberal media.
Slanted Journalism and the 2020 Election | Sharyl Attkisson

That persuasively (among many other sources I could cite and link) makes the case for which side are reporting facts, and which side the willing propagandist conspiracy theorists are.

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Another "conspiracy theorist" for you.





https://www.amazon.com/January-Democrats-Capitol-Protest-Political/dp/1637582641

WB these threads are full of you rejecting sources and facts you don’t like because anything that isn’t proTrump is the enemy for you. After Jan 6 happened the gop in large part moved to block any investigation of the event. The republicans that were willing to put country before party were and still are attacked for it. Maga doesn’t want any trial with Trump in it because you guys know based on the evidence it’s not going to be go well for him.

Bear repellent.

Guess this was ANTIFA's fault, too?

I listened to a Jack Cashill’s segment on Ashli. He leaves out everything that maga world wants to cover up. She rammed her car repeatedly into another woman’s vehicle who got multiple restraining orders on her. Babbit on social media lapped up conspiracy theories like pizza gate. None of that gets a mention. Ashli Babbit is presented in the best light possible who is upset about all the crazy Covid rules. He mentions some doctors that also thought the Covid stuff was crazy. One of them recently got sentenced for punching a police officer on Jan 6. That also isn’t part of the story because maga world wants these people to be martyrs. The FBI is presented as the ones responsible for all the violence on Jan 6. This is apparently a fact because of bomb sniffing dogs didn’t find either of the pipe bombs from that day and other questions that don’t have answers. He doesn’t try to explain why the FBI would try to do something like that. Trump had lost the election and his only hope on that day was trying to make his VP do his bidding. It was Trump that wanted his people there. And it was Trump that avoided asking them to leave after the violence started. Trump saw all this as to his benefit. His wife responded to a plea to get his people to leave with a simple one word response of NO. That stuff doesn’t play into Cashell’s narrative. That wouldn’t sell with his conservative audience. Honestly from what I’ve read of Babbit she had some mental health issues and drank deeply the kool aid. In that sense I see her as a victim but that isn’t useful to maga world and that’s Cashill’s audience. For her effort to stop a free and fair election to help loser Trump, Jack disgustingly calls her a patriot. She is far from that.

You jump from one lying talking point to the next in rapid fire, without giving any sources or details to back up what you allege.


Source and details, please.

Uhh, Jeffrey Epstein?
Harvey Weinstein ?
Several other prominent Democrat funding bundlers?

To many, the vicious stuff THAT YOU alleg, M E M, is "conspiracy theory", that you are eager to believe without evidence, and you just keep repeating the same lying talking points EVEN AFTER sources are cited proving your narratives are nothing but vicious lies.

Even Leftist-partisan Snopes now admits that the allegation Capitol police officer Brian Sicknick was killed by Trump supporters, either with a fire extinguisher, or with bear spray, are lies that have been disproven.
It is also a lie that Roseann Boyland died of an overdose. Both her and Kevin Greeson were pummelled over and over with concussion grenades by police (or someone dressed as a police officer) firing the grenades. At a PEACEFUL crowd of Trump protesters, just standing around waving flags. Despite the best efforts of false-flag agents to prod them into violence.



She is presented in the light that she was an honorably discharged Air Forve veeran MP, ha she was appily married, co-owned a pool business, and travelled to Washington DC to exercist her First Amendment rights to protesta highly questionable rigged election. PEACEFULLY.

Regarding he Covid narraive, it is a FACT that Anthony Fauci and the CDC/NIH lied to the entire nation about how wearing surgical masks was unnecessary. then 2 months later completely flipped the narraive upside down, then telling everyone masks were now necessary, and were mandated to wear, to enter any public place.

I is a FACT that water droplets can easily pass through the spaces of a paper or cloth mask, even an N-95 mask, and that a Covid virus is even much smaller than that.
And if you can wear the mask and smell water molecules of coffee, then because you can smell droples that large, the even smaller Covid virus can easily pass through the mask as well.

It is a FACT that churches, gun stores, and mom and pop grocery and convenience stores, restaaurants, were shut down as "non-essenttial" by CDC, but simultaneously large corporate stores like Wal-Mart, Costco, Target and other stores, as well as Marijuana shops, liquor stores, and strip clubs were allowed to stay open.
Clearly, the virus only infected stores and cultural centers of conservatives.

It is a FACT that Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin, pre-existing and used for many decades, were effective in preventing Covid and treating those already infected, and yet doctors who prescribed these treatments were threatened for prescribing it, despite that their patients had a significantly higher ratio of survival than those treated by CDC guidelines (i.e., Remdesivir).
It is a FACT that human sacks of shit like CNN anchor Chris Cuomo hysterically portrayed doctors and patients who used Hydroxychloroquine aas "dangerous.
But then when Cuomo himself was infected, he eagerly took Hydroxychloroquine himself to get well. And then once he was well, he went right back to demonizing Hyrdroxychloroquine as dangerous. Right up till the day he was fired by CNN. Who also continued to demonize Hydroxycholroquine on their Orwellian "news" network.

I is a FACT that huge regions of Lain America, Africa and Asia who have used Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermecine for decades to fight Malaria, Lyme disease and other diseases for 50 o 70 years, had very low infection rates of Covid, even in densely populated regions.

It is a FACT that specifically Utar-Pradesh state of India (adjacent o Nepal) because it is very densely populated, their government specifically had its citizens begin using Hydroxychloroquine as a preventive measure, and had virtually no Covid infections as a result. Even as U.S. officials propagandized against using Hydroxychloroquine in the U.S., despite that these anti-viral medicines has been safely used in the U.S. for decades without side effects.

It is a FACT that Fauci and his CDC auhoritarians pulled the 6-foot distancing rule out of thin air with no scientific/medical basis (now we know). Just made i up !!

I is a FACT that under Trump, the vaccine was optional that citizens could make their own evaluation whether taking the experimental untested MRNA vaccine was worth the risk.
And it iss a FACT tha many doctors, nurses and other staff in hospitals nationwide, chose NOT to take that risk.
And that when Biden was inaugurated, made the vaccine MANDATORY, these same medical professionals chose to be fired rather than take the vaccine.
And that while Trump was president, taking the vaccine was a CHOICE, and not mandatory.

Itt is a FACT that the vaccine, despite all the risk, was NOT EFFECTIVE, the vaccine did not prevent Covid infection, the vaccine did not prevent spread of Covid to other people.

It is a FACT that Democrats loved --LOVED-- the Covid pandemic, and used it as a political weapon to get Biden in office in a rigged election, to crush all dissent, and to purge any conservatives from our hospitals, from government agencies, from government contractors, and from the U.S. military. And tried to resurrect panic about covid with an alleged "new strain" of Covid in both the 2022 and 2024 elections, trying to resurrect lockdowns and push for mail-in ballots again, but that the public pushed back and will no longer have it.

And those are just a sampling of the verified known facts about Covid, that the Democrat party could no longer hide.
Raher well proven for "conspiracy theory", don't ya think?

And that's wihout even getting into the Democrat-Bolshevik media lies about the 2020 election.
Or about the false January 6th narrative.
Or about Afghanistan withdrawal narrative, that it was all somehow "Trump's fault", rather than Biden tossing away all the pre-conditional stages the Taliban had o follow a each sage before wihdrawal could occur.
About how the war in Ukraine occurred, and how Biden made that war happen.
About the Biden administration and DHS deliberately sabotaging security of the U.S. Southern border, while pretending with audacity to be "tough" on border security.





Who? No facts whatsoever.


Because they are.

They were set up with a GEo-Fence identifying them by their cel-phone signals for later arrest, then violently arrested at gunpoint with AR-15's and thrown to the ground when he Democrat-weaponized FBI could have just called each of these people and asked them to surrender themselves.
The protesters and their families have been bankrupted and lost their homes because of a Democrat-weaponized FBI that punished them with lawfare and unwarranted indefinite incarceration without a trial,.
So they lost their jobs, their businesses, their homes, and were often not even permitted to consult a lawyer, and were beaten in their cells for even asking for a lawyer. And held indefinitely without trial or presentation of evidence against them, FOR OVER TWO YEARS, until they had lost everything they owned.

Meanwhile, over several years prior to Jan 6th, and in the years since, the same Geo-Fence technology was never used to identify Antifa or BLM, or other violent leftist liberal protesters, such as those who invaded the Capitol during he Bret Kavanaugh herarings, or environmentalists.
THESE people the FBI releases without trial or incarceration, before they even needed to hire a lawyer.

Total double-standard. They imprison conservatives for non-crimes and peaceful protesters (pro-life activists, parents opposing woke indoctrination at PTA meetings, Jan 6th protesters,etc., all unnecessarily arrested at AR-15 gunpoint in FBI 6 AM raids, when FBI could have just given them a phone call and a date to appear with a lawyer.
FBI terrorizing hem is precisely the purpose of these 6 AM raids.
The point was Democrat-orchestrated intimidation, NOT justice or any semblance of it.




Because THEY ARE.

I've cited the facts literally hundreds of times.
At least 20 FBI agents, DISGUISED AS Trump supporters.
At least 20 DHS agents, DISGUISED AS Trump supporters.
At least 10 DC Metro police officers, DISGUISED AS Trump supporters.
At least 20 Antifa Salt Lake City acivist/rioters led by John Earle Sullivan, DISGUISED AS Trump supporters.
All there to frame Trump supporters.

Of the government agents, their photos were initially pulled from Capitol surveillance videos, showing them committing crimes, INITIALLY the first day were displayed on FBI's website as wanted criminals.
But DESPITE THEIR CRIMES, their photos were taken down by FBI, because these were their own guys, that they didn't want to prosecute or have revealed as agents provocateur, so the guys who overwhelmingly did the ACTUAL crimes, to FRAME Trump supporters, were taken down. And the trespassing grandmas and real estate agents and business owners who did nothing more than "trespassing" were framed and overcharged wih "obsructing a federal proceeding" and sentenced to years in jail over what should have at most been a $200 fine, and he overcharging intimidated these Trump protesters to sign plea deals to avoid further years in jail. Admit to federal "insurrection" crimes they never committed, but signed confessions jus to end their indefinite incarceration.
While the ACTUAL FBI guys who committed those crimes were never even identtified.

60 incidents of violence ot vandalism. Out of well over 100,000 people, estimated by Capitol police.
And 70 agents provocateur, who were CLEARLY not Trump supporters, there only to FRAME Trump supporters, and possibly even more false flag agents not identified or admitted to.


[qute=M E M]This is apparently a fact because of bomb sniffing dogs didn’t find either of the pipe bombs from that day and other questions that don’t have answers. [/quote]

Oh, BARF !!

The FBI didn't find the bombs because FBI DIDN'T WANT to identify who planted them.
Because they were props planted by the FBI.

Kamala Harris was there within 24 hours of Jan 6th, and her Secret Service detail would have swept the DNC headquarters area for bombs, and found them if they'd been planted more than a few hours before they were found.
FBI has the ability to identify someone from facial recognition technology, they can identtify them by their "gait" or the way they walk, they can identify them by their cel phone signal.
If they WANTED o find them, and they weren't FBI's own guys, they could EASILY find them.
But they don't WANT TO find them, because they are the FBI's own agents.
The same way they don't want Hunter Biden identified as the person who left Cocaine in the White House. So the video of who left it just "disappears".
The same way Peter Strzok and Lisa Page's thousands of texts just were "accidentally deleted" by FBI.
The same way all communications of Secret Service on July 13th when Trump was shot in Butler, PA were "accidentally" erased. It's so infuriatingly obvious.
The FBI is protecting the FBI, no matter how much evidence, no matter how self-incriminating.
And it's all very in-our-faces, how brazenly they cover it up.


I just did.
And have done so literally hundreds of times here in these topics.


No. It was STOLEN from him. Up ill 3 AM, Trump was still winning in all the battleeground states, The "Biden rig" occurred only AFTER fake excuses were made to "stop counting for the night", and Republican observers were sent home, that with DEMOCRATS ALONE in the voting rooms, that an unlikely sudden spike in votes for Biden occurred, as fake ballots were brought in through the back doors and from under tables.


And by do [Trump's] bidding, you mean VP Pence was expected to just do his job and not rubber-stamp a rigged election. Pence could have just delayed the vote finalization for 2 weeks, and made way for 2 weeks of joint-session House/Senate debate and investigation of the evidence of whether the electoral count was legal or fraudulent.

And i was EVEN MORE suspicious that many Democrat voting centers took ballots, required to be on file for precisely such a re-count FOR 22 MONTHS, and instead began shredding them immediately, to prevent a lawful re-count.
In 2000, there were THREE recounts , in front of the U.S. and global media. And several more privately funded re-counts by the Miami Herald and other newspapers over the next year.

In 2020, there were ZERO re-counts, and the ballots frequently shredded in election centers, the flash-drives erased, the voting machines tampered with,, the programming wiped and replaced, so not even one re-count was even possible.
HIGHLY suspicious.

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For the January 6th count? YES, in First Amendment peaceful protest, free speech, and right to assemble and to petition their government.
CRYSTAL clear.
And remember that there were Republican House and Senate members TOGETHER challenging the electoral count, EXACTLY according to Constitutional procedure to challenge the electoral vote. .
Meaning until the FBI's false-flag smear of the protesters on Jan 6, Republican legislators (and the crowd supporting them outside the Capitol) were on the brink of SUCCESSFULLY challenging the electoral vote by peaceful Constitutionally prescribed means. The false flag riot obstructed that.



Agan, BARF !!

That is such an infuriating and obvious lie on your part.

Trump said "PEACEFULLY and patrioically voice your support" in his 12 noon-1:11 PM speech on the White House lawn.
Trump posted roughly every 20 minutes on social media for his supporters to "remain peaceful".
And i was not unil about 2:45 PM ill protesters (or false-flag FBI, DHS, DC Metro and Antifa) breeched the Capitol interior, and even longer till Trump's staff could confirm there was actually a breech, maybe by 3:30 or 3:45,
At which point Trump prepared a video telling everyone to go home, which they immediately did. To the astonishment of even Capitol police, how quickly they left.
And it was only after, across the following weeks and months, that evidence came forward that the many of the rioters were not even Trump supporters, but in truth at least 70 false-flag FBI, DHS, Antifa and other agents.
NOT Trump supporters.



?!? No clear point,
But sounds like total B.S.


So because Cashill doesn't quote he CNN / MSNBC talking points, Cashill's cited FACTS don't have credibility ?


So because she was opinionated, just like you are, she deserved to die, and be slandered by you and the wider Left?
Nice.

You seem to find any excuse to portray her as a wacko, rather than admit she had a RIGHT to that opinion, and a first Amendment right to protest a highly questionable rigged election, in a January 6th protest loaded to the hilt with Trump hating false-flag agents, There to frame Trump and his supporters.
Despite rump supporters' best efforts to challenge a highly questionable election by the First Amendment Constitutionally prescribed means to do so.

Babbit had more than an opinion though. She put herself in front of the angry mob that was intent on stopping the certification. The officer had a duty to protect the people on the other side of the barricade. I feel bad for her but I also feel terrible for the officer that had to try to stop her and all those other Trumpers. I’m angry that Trump didn’t ask his people to leave after they became violent. You can look up Ashli’s car ramming episode on Wikipedia btw. She had issues. The FBI had no motive WB. It’s pretty clear Trump wanted the disruption but why would the FBI help him with trying to disrupt the certification?

What's your source for that?

According to the Capitol Police website, it looks like there were 26 officers involved in the riot:

Do you think it is possible that off-duty police officers were not actually there as agents provocateur, but were instead Trump supporters?

Also, in the list of "notable sentences" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_proceedings_in_the_January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack , are these people all martyrs for the cause?