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Two observations:
1. The story begins in approximately 1938, but ends sometime in the hippie era, which began approximately 1967. Therefore, the story takes place over approximately forty years. Despite that, Hansi stays pretty much the same age. Must be those "aryan genes." 
um is that new math? regular math places it at more like 30 years.
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You're correct, Ray. I was thinking it could be closer to forty, given when the story was published but was at least thirty. I apologize for not being clear.
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You're correct, Ray. I was thinking it could be closer to forty, given when the story was published but was at least thirty. I apologize for not being clear.
why can't you just admit that you were wrong?
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2. I don't know who did the art but it looks famiilar. I think Vince Colletta or Frank McLaughlin, both of whom worked for DC regularly during that era, inked it.
The artist (penciler) was Al Hartley, the guy who did all (?) the other Spire Comics I've ever seen -- you can see his signature on the cover. He also did Patsy Walker and some other stuff for Marvel, as well as a bunch of Archie stuff, both for the original publisher and the licensed Spire Comics issues.
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I wonder, however, if the uncredited inker wasn't McLaughlin, Colletta, or some other guy moonlighting from the big two. The inking style is just too familiar.
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You're correct, Ray. I was thinking it could be closer to forty, given when the story was published but was at least thirty. I apologize for not being clear.
why can't you just admit that you were wrong?
this would open up an entire pandoras box, if he started that he would have to admit having cyber tranny sex with pariah is wrong and that could crush the lad....
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Anyone else here read this WHAT IF issue...
...starring a Fantastic Foursome made up of:
Stan Lee,
Jack Kirby,
Sol Brodsky
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Flo Steinberg?
Written and pencilled by Jack Kirby, inked by Mike Royer.
A high plateau of silliness indeed.
I have an old issue of the Kirby Collector where they talk about this issue a bit. They also mention a hilarious quote from Lee where he mentions a pic that Kirby once drew of Dr. Doom without his mask. Doom's face was Lee's! 
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Re-reading this thread is a lot of fun. Dave WB's wealth of comic knowledge is extremely impressive, as are his longwinded(though highly informative) posts.
It amazes me how silly comics were in the 70's. I wonder if in 30 years comic readers will look back at the stuff of today and wonder what we are all smoking.
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That assumes there will BE comics readers in thirty years...
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Heh. I'm sure LLance will still be around to single-handedly keep the industry afloat. He is ageless.
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My July 4th offering is the CAPTAIN AMERICA: MADBOMB ! trade (reprinting CAPTAIN AMERICA 193-200, from 1976. Written and pencilled by Jack Kirby, inked by Frank Giacoia and D. Bruce Berry) This was Kirby's first series on his return to Marvel in late 1975 and early/mid 1976. In this highly improbable offering, Captain America and the Falcon confront the national threat of the "Madbomb" (a bomb that explodes and drives everyone crazy within a wide radius of the explosion.) That's for openers. Following the Madbomber trail, Cap finds... [ SPOILERS, if you haven't read it ,or plan to: ]...a secret society of men and women who have lived in underground shelters for 200 years, who wear English-Colonial-style knickers and powdered wigs and want to return an English Monarchy to govern over the United States ! Hey, it could happen.  Among several other unlikely scenes, Cap and the Falcon fight for their lives by trial of fire in a monarchy-built Coliseum, in.... a deadly women's roller-derby. I half expected Donna Summer to come out and sing "I will Survive" to the roller derby champions. [/SPOILERS]Also fun was an appearance by then-Secretary of State Henry Kissenger and several other recognizable faces, given a distinctly Kirby twist. I love just about everything Kirby has done. But this is bad, and I mean really bad. But it's just so off-the-wall and bizarre that it's really fun to read. There's a second volume that reprints CAPTAIN AMERICA'S BICENTENNIAL BATTLES, a 75-page Marvel Treasury edition, also originally out in 1976, that takes Cap through all the great moments in U.S. history (such as the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, Custer's last stand, W W I, the Alamagordo nuclear test in July 1945, etc. ) that has some equally fun but bizarre scenes. The best part of this second volume is 10 pages of art pencilled by Kirby, and inked by Barry Windsor-Smith !! Some fun July 4th reading that'll bring a smile to your face.
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 That is a classic, DD. That book's probably almost impossible to find, just because of that cover ! The latest WTF book I found:  LOBO THE DUCK !
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Can a humor/satire book truly count as a WTF book? If so, then isn't every issue of Mad a WTF book?
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What are the lines, plot devices, situations put in a comic, or fan posts, that just made you think "WTF?!?"?
For me, it was reading so-called "spoilers" for JSA arcs where the poster leaked that Captain Marvel was either tricked or forced into yelling "SHAZAM!" in the middle of a battle.
Next!
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Consistent with Shazamgrrl's original post, I think that while ret-conned embarrassments are certainly interesting to discuss here, that Shazamgrrl's opening thesis for the topic is broad enough to include any comic book story that has blown your mind and made you say: WOAH !!!
That can be WTF in a bad way, WTF in a good way, WTF in a continuity way, or WTF in an embarassing ret-conned way.
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Again, I vote for all-inclusiveness.
Funny ret-conned-out embarassments, as well as in-continuity mind-blowers, and stuff that just makes you laugh at its goofiness, like the JLI/JLE stuff.
Narrowing the WTF nominees will take some of the fun out of it, and make for less posting here, and a much shorter topic.
Also, I actually did post some MAD covers on page 10 of the topic.
While I agree with you that continuity WTF's are fun and the primary focus here, I like the all-inclusiveness of mentioning other amusing comics oddities, such as MAD, or HANSI THE GIRL WHO LOVED THE SWASTIKA.
Or MOEBIUS # 0: THE HORNY GOOF.
Or PUNISHER VS. ARCHIE, and so forth.
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The whole current "Captain America dies" pseudo-event is a big WTF, too.
The month after he dies, CAPTAIN AMERICA resumes monthly publication.
Yeah, he's really dead...
Wikipedia, CAPTAIN AMERICA listing
eonline, Captain America movie project continuing, doubtful it would if he were really dead. Marvel's publisher Dan Buckley's comments indicate it's only Steve Rogers' secret identity that's really dead.
L.A. Times, CAPTAIN AMERICA comic book series will continue.
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Some of the underground books have some very funny covers and titles. For example...  The art for this one is by Rand Holmes, who's done some great EC-style tribute stories in the Wally Wood tradition for ALIEN WORLDS, ALIEN ENCOUNTERS, DEATH RATTLE, SLOW DEATH and other titles. (I can't link directly to the full-size cover, so at the link just scroll down the alphabetical list of titles and click on the image)
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Last night I re-read one of my favorite AVENGERS stories from 1982 by Jim Shooter and Alan Weiss, in AVENGERS 215-216.   Like most of Jim Shooter's stories, it focuses on an early-Marvel twist of characters with superpowers doing everyday things, like running errands, going to the bank, eating out in a restaurant or bar, and the funny situations that occur when they interact with regular people. In this case, Tigra gets hit on by a guy in a bar, who turns out to be a fur fetishist. Another scene has her (kitty-like) drinking milk at the bar. Plus other fun kitty-isms. And fighting Molecule Man, which just adds to the goofiness. WTF in a very fun way. Anyone who enjoys early Marvel stories would definitely enjoy these issues. Shooter came back for this one last stint for issues 211-220, and all these issues have a quirky early-Marvel feel to them. This was a great run on AVENGERS, both by Shooter and by others, from issues 141(Perez's first issue) up through 224(Michelinie's last issue). Roger Stern's run from 225-287 had some good stories too, but it suffered from mediocre art (Al Milgrom from 225-254, and J.Buscema/Palmer from 255-287).
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Jack Kirby is the biggest WTF in comics ever.
Like most "kings" he is an inbred inept sack of shit. While glorified by his followers, he produced nothing but ugly art and dialogue not fit for a 4 year old.
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What does holden mcgroin think of this?
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Jack Kirby is the biggest WTF in comics ever.
Like most "kings" he is an inbred inept sack of shit. While glorified by his followers, he produced nothing but ugly art and dialogue not fit for a 4 year old.
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What does holden mcgroin think of this?
Y'know, this is a fun topic, and this kind of mean-spiritedness really doesn't belong here.
It really is pathetic that you guys need to troll and harass across multiple topics, to the point that it borders on stalking.
What fulfilling lives you must lead, that your greatest joy in life is trying to ruin other people's good time.
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Y'know, this is a fun topic, and this kind of mean-spiritedness really doesn't belong here.
Yeah, because these boards are known for all the nice people that post here.
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Anyone here read the story where Lois Lane turned black (issue 106) ?  They say: "Once you go black, you'll never go back."But Lois did. An amusing blog on the subject... http://www.politedissent.com/archives/554
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 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BatcopterFLYING BATCAVE The "Flying Batcave" was a giant helicopter with many of the real Batcave's scientific amenities. They included: - Panoramic video surveillance
- Smoke-screen generators to provide artificial cloud-over.
However, the "Flying Batcave" required frequent refueling, thus significantly reducing patrol time. That Wikipedia listing is a WTF in itself.
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the reason they didn't use it as much is because you can see the toilet in the window.
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DRACULA VS. CAPONE? I love the idea, but it likely can't possibly live up to expectations.
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 One I was reading on a collected DVD, an Uncle Sam story from the Lou Fine illustrated run in NATIONAL COMICS 18, cover-dated December 1941. A 9-page story that portrays an attack by "oriental" forces on U.S. bases in Guam and Pearl Harbor, done so the Germans could simultaneously wage an air-bombing and naval attack on the U.S. East coast. You can read the complete story here: https://fourcolorglasses.wordpress.com/2...-december-1941/A story portraying a Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, cover-dated the same month as an actual attack on Pearl Harbor by the Japanese!
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Wow.... http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix6/claremontchris.htmChris Claremont, as a character in Marvel Comics over the last 40 years or so, retentively indexed in every comic book appearance. "No super Powers", etc. Does something as fun as writing Claremont into a story really need to be retentively indexed for "powers" and abilities, and monitored for continuity?  This image by Broderick/Colletta from MARVEL PREMIERE 24, circa 1975, I found particularly nice.
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Two others I can think of offhand that have Marvel staffers as characters in the stories are FANTASTIC FOUR 176, and MARVEL TWO-IN-ONE 60, both illustrated by George Perez and fun issues, that both include the Impossible Man (Marvel's version of Bat-Mite). Issue 60 is beautifully inked by Gene Day, with Mark Gruenwald, Ralph Macchio and George Perez attending a party that is interrupted by a slugfest between the Thing and threats created by the Impossible man. The story also sports a really fun scene I mentioned earlier in the topic, with the Thing taking a shower, that re-enacts the famous shower scene in the Alfred Hitchcock's movie Psycho.
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From the above MARVEL TWO-IN-ONE 60 story:  Story co-writers Mark Gruenwald and Ralph Macchio, and artist George Perez as characters in the story. A really fun issue, for those who haven't already read it. A follow-up lighter issue, after the "Pegasus Project" storyline in issues 53-58. The same writers and Perez/Day team also in a follow-up story in issues 64-66.
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7 CRAZIEST STORIES FROM BOB HANEY (ComicsAlliance) Three of which we've discussed here: BRAVE & THE BOLD 115, BRAVE & THE BOLD 124, and the "Super Sons" stories from scattered WORLD'S FINEST issues, from 1973-1979.
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As a little kid, Bob Haney stories were some of my favorites, precisely because he never let continuity get in the way of a wild imagination.
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Lothar posted an image in the "Island of misfit Comic Images" topic way back, of an odd flamingly gay Superman hitting on Jimmy Olsen in the newsroom. It was funny enough I googled it up to see what was behind it. It turns out, there actually was a SUPERGIRL 79 story in 2003, where Superman was exposed to "pink Kryptonite" that temporarily turned him gay. http://www.back2stonewall.com/2013/09/su...-turns-gay.htmlThe hypersensitive babies on this blog apparently found it offensive. Which just makes it even more fun.
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SUPERGIRL 79, April 2003, complete story, by Peter David, with Ed Benes/Alex Lei art : https://viewcomiconline.com/supergirl-v4-079/![[Linked Image from i89.photobucket.com]](http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k218/ripleycat/supergirl3.jpg)
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. Another favorite cover of mine, for THE BEST OF DC digest issue 71, giving the year's best stories, as selected by DC's editors at the time. This was an annual issue , selecting each year the best stories published in 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984, and this very last issue of the series, for the best stories of 1985. ![[Linked Image from milehighcomics.com]](http://www.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/09754732392.71.jpg) Cover by Giffen and Kesel. I love this, Ambush Bug blindfolded with his back to the covers shown, throwing darts over his shoulder randomly to select the best stories !
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