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Tucker Carlson stated on November 1...nally entrapped" American citizens.
“ Tucker Carlson’s conspiracy theory about FBI and Jan. 6 continues to be wrong

A debunked conspiracy theory that claims federal agents incited the Jan. 6 Capitol riot is making a new appearance in Fox News host Tucker Carlson’s new three-part documentary series, "Patriot Purge."

The controversial series that started airing Nov. 1 attempts to frame the insurrection as a false flag arranged by the federal government to ensnare American citizens who supported former President Donald Trump. The video is available on Fox News’ subscription-based streaming service "Fox Nation," but it’s not being aired on the Fox News channel.

"Most Americans probably assume the chaos on Jan. 6 was the result of intelligence failures or of simple government incompetence. But direct incitement by federal agents? The intentional entrapment of American citizens? No decent person wants to believe that. But increasingly there’s evidence it is true," Carlson claimed at the close of the first segment.

Carlson is wrong. There is no credible evidence behind this theory, and Carlson’s piece doesn’t present any. PolitiFact reached out to Fox News but did not hear back. The FBI declined to comment.

The film’s claims
The first time we saw this claim from Carlson, he based it on reporting by Revolver News, a right-leaning website. In a June 14 article, headlined, "Unindicted Co-Conspirators in 1/6 Cases Raise Disturbing Questions of Federal Foreknowledge," Revolver speculated that because there were unindicted, unnamed co-conspirators included in some of the Capitol rioters’ federal charging documents, it was reasonable to assume that those people are FBI informants or agents.

Carlson returned to Revolver as a source for his documentary series, interviewing Darren Beattie, who runs Revolver News and is a former Trump White House speechwriter who was fired in 2018 after he appeared on a panel with a white nationalist. In the video, Beattie made conspiratorial claims connecting the foiled October 2020 plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer to the notion that the FBI orchestrated the insurrection, because informants and undercover FBI operatives were involved.

Beattie referenced Steven D’Antuono, the former director of the Detroit FBI field office, who was promoted to help lead the FBI’s Washington, D.C., office after his team successfully thwarted the Whitmer kidnapping. D’Antuono is now working on the Capitol riot cases. The film suggested this is suspicious, and Beattie reiterated his website’s reporting that D’Antuono was "quietly" promoted. The suggestion ignores that the FBI issued a press release about the news and local media wrote stories about it.

The comparison between Jan. 6 and the Whitmer plot is fraught. The plan in Michigan was never carried out, as is the case with most schemes that involve undercover agents and result in criminal charges.

Carlson cites reporting from journalist Trevor Aaronson on FBI stings that were used to to entrap Muslims after 9/11 to support his theory that the same was done to Trump supporters at the Capitol. But back in June, when Carlson first used Aaronson’s research in one of his segments, Aaronson responded in an article and said the Fox News host distorted his reporting.

"While it is true that the FBI has since 9/11 set up hundreds of Muslims in counterterrorism stings, providing weapons and sometimes the ideas for plots, I have seen zero evidence to suggest that Jan. 6 was part of a plot engineered by the FBI," Aaronson told PolitiFact in an email. "What's more, the scale of the Capitol riot, involving hundreds of people from all over the country, makes the suggestion that this was some FBI plot absolutely ludicrous."

Carlson also claimed that a former DEA agent, Mark Ibrahim, was "strongly encouraged" to go inside the Capitol building by an unnamed FBI informant friend who had invited him to the rally. Carlson presents no evidence for this, and court documents show the friend denied urging Ibrahim to go inside. The friend told investigators Ibrahim had concocted the story and went to the rally to promote himself after submitting an intent to resign from the DEA. The witness also told federal agents they were not at the Capitol in any formal capacity for the FBI.

Meanwhile, Ibrahim wasn’t indicted for "simply being near the Capitol," as Carlson asserted in the series. Court documents show Ibrahim faces charges for bringing a firearm onto restricted grounds and for making false statements to federal agents.

Others who appeared in the series claimed that so-called "professional agitators" were there that day to tip things into chaos and were seen changing clothes. They pointed to the involvement of John Sullivan, who has been charged in the riot and is one of the only defendants who has been identified as supporting left-wing causes at times. But there is no evidence that Sullivan is connected to antifa, the FBI or the federal government or that he single-handedly caused the riot.

While there may have been individuals who were trying to quell passions, it’s clear from court filings in hundreds of cases that the people who were instigating violence were largely Trump supporters.

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In the video, Carlson used other people, some of whom are charged in the riot, to bolster his argument. One person claimed that the Capitol police were simply letting everyone in the building in order to intentionally entrap them. But the film didn’t acknowledge that law enforcement were vastly outnumbered. One officer died the following day, and four more have died since by suicide.

Carlson’s assertions don’t hold up to scrutiny
Jesse Norris, a criminal justice professor at the State University of New York at Fredonia who researches entrapment incidents in terrorism prosecutions, told us that in order to show that those charged in Jan. 6 were directly incited or entrapped, Carlson would need to have evidence that undercover police or informants — who were working at the behest of law enforcement at the time — were involved in the planning of violence at the Capitol, or the instigation of violence while the protests were underway.

He would also need to show, Norris added, that the perpetrators were not already predisposed to commit the same crimes without the informants' influence.

"From a common-sense point of view, they were entrapped if the informants got them to do something they wouldn't have realistically done on their own," Norris said.

"The legal definition is narrower," he added. "Under federal law, someone is only entrapped if 1) the informant induced someone to commit a crime, and the inducement is more than just providing an opportunity and also includes some kind of pressure, and 2) the defendant was not already predisposed in some way to commit the same kinds of crimes before meeting the informant."

Factors used by courts and juries to decide whether a defendant was predisposed include such things as their criminal history, whether they were initially reluctant but were convinced by persistent inducement attempts, whether the idea for the crime originated with the informant, and the types of inducements used to persuade the defendant to commit the crime.

Ira Robbins, a law and justice professor at American University who has studied and written about unindicted co-conspirators, said Carlson’s statements don’t hold up to scrutiny.

"Where is the hard evidence going to the elements of entrapment?" Robbins said. "Did government agents originate the plan? Were they dealing with innocent individuals who didn't plan or were not involved in criminal activity? Without evidence going directly to these elements, Carlson's assertions are mere hyperbole and rhetoric. What plays well on TV doesn't usually play well in a court of law."

Meanwhile, even Fox News journalists have issued reports that dispute the conspiracy theory that the FBI helped instigate the riot.

Days before Carlson’s film was released, a Fox News’ segment about the congressional investigation into the insurrection aired on "Special Report With Bret Baier." The segment included an interview with former CIA officer Marc Polymeropoulos, who dismissed the suggestion that Jan. 6 was a false flag.

"One of the things with false flag operations as well, is sometimes it’s used by conspiracy theorists to actually hide the truth," he said. "Pretty far-fetched — in no way was Jan. 6 a false flag operation."

Our ruling
Carlson claims that federal agents directly incited people on Jan. 6 and "intentionally entrapped" American citizens.

There is no evidence that the FBI, or any other government agency, orchestrated or incited the Jan. 6 riot.

We rate this statement False.

RELATED: Tucker Carlson film falsely claims Jan. 6 is ‘pretext to strip millions’ of ‘constitutional rights’


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Donald Trump Resisted Pleas to Stop Capitol Rioters: 'People Will Die'
“ As his own supporters breached the U.S. Capitol and began ransacking the seat of American democracy on Jan. 6, then-President Donald Trump remained holed up in his dining room. There, he watched the increasingly violent scene play out on television and resisted calls from those closest to him to urge the rioters to disperse, instead stewing over his recent electoral loss.
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Trump used the word peacefully exactly fucking once in his peak tantrum "stolen election" screed, you deranged cultist hillbilly.

You're an uninformed moron. Trump said "PEACEFULLY and patriotically voice your support" for the Republican House and Senate members inside the Capitol on the joint session floor.
Which Trump supporters did, in peaceful demonstrations outside the Capitol building.

Throughout the day on Jan 6th, 2 or 3 times an hour, Trump in Twitter posts pressed his supporters to "remain peaceful".

And when the 20 or so FBI agent provacateur "un-indicted co-conspirators", and the 20 or so in John Earle Sullivan's BLM/Antifa group both tried to trick Trump supporters to enter the building, Trump without even knowing at that time it was Democrat operatives orchestrating the violence, released a video instructing his supporters to immediately leave and go home, which they did. Plainclothes security consultants who have monitored this and the many protests and crowds for a living in Washington Square over many years, said they were astonished how quickly Trump supporters complied with Trump's video instruction and left.
Literally at least 40 or more of the 60 who did anything resembling violence on January 6th were clearly in official investigation reports either FBI agents or BLM/Antifa, NOT Trump supporters, agents sent to FRAME Trump supporters.. When that many people, an overwhelming majority of the 60, were orchestrating the set-up of Trump supporters, it becomes ridiculous to say there was any "insurrection".

There was no "tantrum" by Trump. His 71-minute speech on January 6th has been posted here repeatedly.
https://vimeo.com/497719926
Trump is actually fun and entertaining to watch, in this and any of his rallies, his use of jokes and playful sarcasm is anything but a "tantrum".
But you continue to lie, because that's just in your DNA to do so.


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    Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.

    EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.
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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
Donald Trump Resisted Pleas to Stop Capitol Rioters: 'People Will Die'
“ As his own supporters breached the U.S. Capitol and began ransacking the seat of American democracy on Jan. 6, then-President Donald Trump remained holed up in his dining room. There, he watched the increasingly violent scene play out on television and resisted calls from those closest to him to urge the rioters to disperse, instead stewing over his recent electoral loss.
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Liberal narrative, not to be confused with actual facts.

AGAIN: Of the 600 or so who entered the Capitol (many tricked into entering by police, who held open the doors for them) 90% were only guilty of "trespassing".
Of the 60 or so who actually broke windows, committed vandalism or violently clashed with police , "at least 20" (in the FBI's own investigation reports) are "un-indicted co-conspirators" (i.e. FBI agents DISGUISED as Trump supporters, who did violence and tried to provoke the crowd, i.e., agents provocateur.
And another 20 or so were (as proven on videotape) John Earle Sullivan and his BLM / Antifa rioters, ALSO pretending to be Trump supporters, trying to incite the mob.

So again: If at least 40 of the 60 were agents trying to frame the well-over 100,000 Trump supporters, it can't fairly be portrayed as a "Trump-incited riot", when the overwhelming majority of violent offenders were >>NOT<<< Trump supporters, but people there to frame them. And Trump repeatedly in his 71-minute speech that day, in his repeated tweets about every 30 minutes throughout the afternoon, and his final video message that day instructing everyone to "go home and leave in peace", ALL encouraged peaceful demonstration, and NONE of them advocated violence.

Add to that how Trump in the week prior to Jan 6th ordered 10,000 National Guard troops to be there that day to insure peace, and how Pelosi and other Democrat apparatchiks made that national guard order disappear, even when Capitol police and other commanding officers on Jan 6th desperately requested those national guard troops 5 or 6 times throughout the day.

Don't blame Trump, when it is clear he did everything in advance to prevent violence, and Democrats, who wanted the chaos for their own narrative, scuttled those preventive measures, and did everything to make violence happen.

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Carlson returned to Revolver as a source for his documentary series, interviewing Darren Beattie, who runs Revolver News and is a former Trump White House speechwriter who was fired in 2018 after he appeared on a panel with a white nationalist. In the video, Beattie made conspiratorial claims connecting the foiled October 2020 plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer to the notion that the FBI orchestrated the insurrection, because informants and undercover FBI operatives were involved.

It has been proven that 3 of the 5 people involved in the "plot" toi kidnap Gov. Gretchen Whitmer were FBI agents and informants, including the plotter, and the van driver. So whose "plot" was it to kidnaap the governor? "Right-wing white supremacists", or the FBI? The facts prove it was the latter. And a few dim bulbs who were tricked into participating, just to fill the FBI/Democrat "dangerous white-supremacist/right wing" narrative.

And by the way....

https://www.politifactbias.com/2021/

https://www.conservapedia.com/PolitiFact

...Politifact is a liberal spin site, not a neutral source. It is owned by a far-left leaning Tampa newspaper, which only further underscores their bias. As is also evidenced by their targeting Republicans as factually false 3 times as often as Democrats.
Likewise Snopes.
Likewise Factcheck (owned by the left-leaning Washington Post).

All three are liberal spin-sites, operating under the pseudo-appearance of neutrality.

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By Jon Greenberg • October 22, 2021
In the video, Carlson used other people, some of whom are charged in the riot, to bolster his argument. One person claimed that the Capitol police were simply letting everyone in the building in order to intentionally entrap them. But the film didn’t acknowledge that law enforcement were vastly outnumbered. One officer died the following day, and four more have died since by suicide.

GAH ! How can you possibly front these OBVIOUS lies as if they were truth ?!?
They imply, as if we were stupid, that officer Brian Sicknick died of injuries from the rioting. But as we've discussed literally hundreds of times, Sicknick was completely uninjured and was joking around at the police station hours later when he collapsed. And Sicknick's own brother on January 8th reported that his brother had died of a stroke, which the liberal media misrepresented to be death from "being bludgeoned with a fire extinguisher", and then when that was disproven, for several more months fronted the lie that Sicknick's stroke was from "a chemical sprayed on him", but hours of video footage proved that Sicknick was never struck or sprayed with anything that day. And even the New York Times that CREATED that narrative out of thin air finally retracted that lie.
But the assholes at PolitiFact are still fronting that lying narrative, in a carefully worded ambiguous suggestion that Sicknick died from riot injuries. And there is no evidence that any other officers who committed suicide did so in relation to Jan 6th events.

Only 600 went inside the Capitol on Jan 6th.
Of those, 90% were only guilty of "trespassing". Only 60 committed vandalism or other violence. And of those 60, "at least 20" (by the FBI's own reports) are "un-indicted co-conspirators" (FBI agents) and another 20 are John Earle Sullivan and his BLM/Antifa rioters, DISGUISED as Trump supporters, openly boasting ON VIDEO they were going to frame Trump supporters.

Politifact's deceitful propaganda is ANYTHING BUT a factual correction of Carlson's reports. Politifact repeatedly and deliberately misrepresents the facts to fit a liberal narrative, rather than presenting the actual facts.

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I no longer take your word for anything WB. Conservapedia like yourself is overtly biased btw. Officer Strickland was attacked and sprayed with chemicals that left him incapacitated for a period of time. That you would claim he was completely uninjured is just a lie you repeat along with all the others. I see you for who you are WB. You don’t fool me anymore.


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
I no longer take your word for anything WB. Conservapedia like yourself is overtly biased btw. Officer Strickland was attacked and sprayed with chemicals that left him incapacitated for a period of time. That you would claim he was completely uninjured is just a lie you repeat along with all the others. I see you for who you are WB. You don’t fool me anymore.

So in other words, you only trust hyper-biased LIBERAL media.
And conservative media that cites the facts that are selectively omitted by the rabidly Democrat-partisan LIBERAL media you take at face value, despite their repeated lies they have been caught in over the last 5 years. And despite the liberal media's stated holy mission to partisanly destroy Trump and Republicans and advance the Democrat/cultural marxist/BLM/Antifa/anti-American cause.

You act like the facts I cited and quoted are "right-wing". No, they are just the facts, that the liberal media tries to pretend don't exist. As I've said before, multiple highly respected and award winning LIBERAL journalists such as Sharyl Attkisson, Glenn Greenwald, Lara Logan, , Bernard Goldberg, Ron Kessler, and John Solomon, spent decades working for liberal networks and newspapers, but were compelled by conscience to resign and break their contracts to leave those organizations and their high salaries and secure careers, TO ACTUALLY OBJECTIVELY REPORT THE NEWS as they previously had for decades, instead of lowering themselves to churn out partisan one-sided liberal propaganda that the liberal media has become over the last 10 years.
In the case of Glenn Greenwald, he was forced to leave a news organization HE CREATED !
In the case of Sharyl Attkisson, for CBS and CNN she did acclaimed investigative journalism for years on the George W. Bush administration and won awards and praise from her employers. But when she attempted afterward with the same objectivity to do the same investigative reporting of the Obama administration, her reports were edited and softened by CBS, or not broadcast at all.
So she resigned.
And her computers and files were hacked and deleted after by what investigating cyber-experts told her was intelligence community-level hacking and software. Obama's KGB.

So spare me the sermons about "overtly biased" and "right-wing" sources. The news you "trust", the 80% liberal/Pravda media, won't permit anything other than Party Line talking points to be reported, and have been proven to present deliberately false information over and over, ACTUALLY WORKING IN COLLABORATION with Democrats and the Democrat-KGB FBI, DOJ and intelligence community to manufacture that lying narrative. Whereas networks like FOX still report the facts even when reported events make conservatives look bad. And FOX and other conservative media give equal time and balanced coverage to liberal perspective. Juan Williams and other liberals have even substituted as hosts for Bill O'Reilly and other FOX hosts. Would you EVER see that on MSNBC or CNN? No, you wouldn't.
On a show like Rachel Maddow, she gets the first and last word, and never has conservatives debate her live on the air, she only shows conservative video clips that she has absolute control of, that she can slice and dice. Whether CNN, MSNBC, NBC, CBS, New York Times, Washington Post, Politico, Vox, or the harpies on The View, these people deliberately misrepresent the truth and have no interest in journalism.
Whereas the conservative media, for whatever lesser biases (no one is completely without biases or opinions) have a priority of objectivity and journalistic integrity.

In contrast to the liberal media, as represented by the on-air words of Lester Holt, that "Objectivity is over-rated".
And these are the people you trust for your "news".
How many times do the 80% liberal media (and 93% among Washington-based media correspondents) have to openly state their bias, their stated holy mission to advocate for the Democrat/Left and crush Republicans no matter what the facts? Their getting caught over and over DELIBERATELY getting the stories wrong to prop up the Democrat narrative?

The New York Times and Washington Post have most recently retracted their narratives reported for months and years, about the Trump "Russia collusion" narrative, and about the death of officer Brian Sicknick. And still you allege "right-wing bias" when it is the liberal media and Democrat Bolsheviks, who are over and over caught lying and manufacturing false reporting and false evidence.

While Republicans and the conservative media are over and over proven to have gotten the facts right, while the 80% liberal media got it wrong and been shamefully exposed for DELIBERATELY reporting it wrong, as part of a conspiracy in collaboration with the Democrats officials, Democrat/Deep State FBI and DOJ, and Democrat partisans in the intelligence community(James Clapper, John Brennan and Gina Haspel, to name a few.) The liberal media actually even rewards PROVEN liars like James Clapper, Andrew McCabe, John Brennan and James Comey with high-paying opinion consultant positions. And these people you trust for "objective" news.
They have been proven wrong, proven LIARS, proven CRIMINALS, over and over, for years !

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See above response to your post WB. You deliberately claimed the officer was completely uninjured when in fact he was sprayed with enough chemicals to be incapacitated. You did that WB. If you have an issue with partisan liars than get yourself to a mirror and give yourself a good rinse of bear spray in the face. Than tell me if you felt it was an injury or not.


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
See above response to your post WB. You deliberately claimed the officer was completely uninjured when in fact he was sprayed with enough chemicals to be incapacitated. You did that WB. If you have an issue with partisan liars than get yourself to a mirror and give yourself a good rinse of bear spray in the face. Than tell me if you felt it was an injury or not.

Here is Wikipedia's account, that is the liberal-media-narrative version and may or may not be fully correct, updated and accurate, but could never be mistaken for a "Right wing" media source:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Brian_Sicknick#Attack_on_the_Capitol

Portions of this are new since the last time I looked at it, and the last time I looked, and on multiple news channels over many months, they said that the many hours of video footage did NOT show officer Brian Sicknick being either bludgeoned or sprayed (Sicknick, NOT "Strickland" as you posted in error, I actually thought you were talking about another officer) not being struck with an extinguisher, or sprayed with anything.
And regardless of what other officers say about Sicknick being pepper sprayed, he had fully recovered in the evening of January 6th and was joking around, perfectly healthy, with other officers back at the Capitol police station, when he suddenly collapsed.
And regardless of what Wikipedia and Associated Press and other liberal sources are still fronting, the autopsy (which was suspiciously delayed to keep alive the liberal bludgeoning/spraying narrative, even though Sicknick's body was released within days to his family AND CREMATED, so that no "further investigation" by the coroner's office was possible in the months after, HIGHLY suspicious in such a nationally publicized death, that the coroner's office alleged they were "still investigating"even after they'd handed over Sicknick's body to be cremated.

The coroner's office said simply that Sicknick died of a stroke, NOT by a chemical spray, even though the liberal media (and Wikipedia) is ambiguously keeping this narrative open by weasel-wording. There is no proof of that, and it was not included as a possible cause of death in the coroner's report. Sicknick's own brother said he was notified by the coroner January 8th (as I cited in a linked article 6 months ago) that his brother died of a stroke, PERIOD, regardless of the statements by Democrat-aligned senior officers in the Capitol police department, and Democrat-loyalist reporters in the liberal media.

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But you claimed he was completely uninjured. I think we both know officer Strickland was sprayed with chemicals in a way that incapacitated him and you would normally consider being an injury. Instead of just acknowledging that you just intensify your rant. Does that seem rational to you?


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https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/apr/27/brian-sicknick-slain-capitol-police-officer-spraye/

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Prosecutors told a federal judge Tuesday that U.S. Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick was assaulted with Mace — not the more dangerous bear spray as originally reported — debunking another false narrative that emerged after the officer’s death the day after the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol.

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Anderson Cooper Has NO Shame! - Mark Dice, Dec 14 2021



I love the way he pans in and out dramatically every time he says "January 6th". I never heard of this guy before, but he makes serious commentary while being quite funny.
A good sense of comic timing.

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Here's how you know the Democrats rigged and stole the 2020 election

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by Wayne Allyn Root

Let me put this in terms even Democrats can understand.

Let’s say a white police officer killed an innocent black man who did nothing wrong. Unlike George Floyd, he had not committed any crime; was not resisting arrest; his body wasn’t filled with fentanyl; he had no lifelong violent crime record. None of that. Assume this poor guy was a law-abiding, tax-paying, church-going American. And the white cop killed him for the crime of “driving while black.”
What’s the reaction of the police? They say the shooting was righteous. They refuse to investigate. There is a bodycam videotape, but they refuse to release it. And get this- they refuse to allow anyone to even talk about it. If any cop talks about it, he loses his job. If anyone in the black community talks about it, social media will suspend them, or ban them for life.

What would all of that mean to you? Guilty as charged, right? The police must be covering up a crime. No one who’s innocent acts like that, right?
Guess what? That’s the EXACT reaction (or should I say, over-reaction) by liberals, Democrats and assorted socialists and communists to Republican accusations of massive voter fraud in the 2020 presidential election.

I thought in America we were all allowed to have our opinion. I thought we had free speech. I thought we had a right to investigate. I thought we had a right to see the videotapes. I thought we had a right to forensic audits.
I was wrong.

The fix is in. It’s crystal clear to me now, not only was the election rigged, but so is the post-election. It’s simple psychology. Just look at the absurd reaction, or over-reaction by Democrats.
Would anyone dare ban the right to discuss a possible racist police killing? Can you imagine the reaction by liberals, black activists and the ACLU? What if the Minneapolis police permanently banned any discussion of the George Floyd death? What if every black American who tried to give their opinion on Twitter, Facebook or YouTube was banned for life?
Who acts like that? Only guilty people.

That’s how you know.

Here are the questions I want answered…

  • If Democrats didn’t rig and steal the election, why are they so afraid of forensic audits in key battleground states- specifically the audit in Arizona right now?

    When Trump was a 8 to 1 landslide favorite with bettors around the world late on election night and clearly headed to a landslide electoral victory, why did five states suddenly announce (in coordination) they were stopping counting for the night?

    How come by morning these states had resumed counting with no GOP witnesses, and suddenly Biden was ahead? I thought you stopped counting?

    How come Michigan had a dump of 149,772 votes at 6:31 AM on November 4th – with 96% of the vote going to Biden?

    How did Wisconsin find 143,379 votes at 3:42 AM on November 4th, just about all of them for Biden? How come you could only produce numbers like this for Biden with no GOP witnesses in the room?

    How come in Philadelphia Democrats were so desperate to keep Republican witnesses out of the counting room? Why did you refuse entry of Republican witnesses even with a court order in hand? Why did you cover the windows with pizza boxes so no Republican could see in?

    In Detroit, there are videotapes of vans pulling up in the middle of the night with boxes of ballots. In Atlanta, there are videotapes of suitcases with thousands of fake ballots suddenly appearing after a fake water main break was used to force all GOP witnesses out of the counting room. Why can’t we discuss these videotapes?

    How come Twitter banned me for life over mentioning these videotapes?

    How come in Arizona the audit director says Dominion refuses to comply with a subpoena and turn over the password to their voting machines? True?

    How come the Biden DOJ suddenly wants to stop the Arizona audit?


These are all valid questions. Why aren’t we allowed to ask them? To discuss them? To post them on social media? What are Democrats hiding? What are they so afraid of?
In the end, that’s the proof Democrats rigged and stole the 2020 presidential election. The truth is in their ridiculous, heavy-handed over-reaction.

That’s the “tell.” That gives it all away. That’s how you know it really was rigged and stolen. Because they’re desperate to stop you from looking or even talking about it.
Democrats are guilty as sin.
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Wayne Allyn Root is the author of the new #1 national bestselling book, “TRUMP RULES.” Wayne is a CEO, entrepreneur and host of the nationally-syndicated “Wayne Allyn Root: Raw & Unfiltered” on USA Radio Network, daily from 6 PM to 9 PM EST and the “WAR RAW” podcast. To find out more about Wayne Allyn Root and read features by other Creators Syndicate writers and cartoonists, visit the Creators Syndicate website at www.creators.com.

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A year to the day now since the Democrats' "Jaunary 6th insurrection" narrative began. Hannity did the best overview of the coverage I saw of the anniversary, in citing the evidence that the Democrat narrative is blatantly untrue and in contradiction of the facts.

Hannity, Jan 6 2022, Thursday


1) Trump anticipated potential violence on Jan 6th 2021, as is the potential with any large-scale protest, particularly one where many other groups like Antifa and BLM communicated for several weeks online, as was detected by the New York police dept and several other law enforcement agencies in the 4 weeks preceding Jan 6th 2021, and the FBI was alerted by them. Trump authorized between 10,000 and 20,000 National Guard troops to be available at the protest, to prevent any potential escalation or violence. Anyone who wanted an "insurrection" would not call for a military presence, as President Trump did, to prevent an insurrection.
It was Nancy Pelosi and the House Democrats, and Washington DC mayor Bowser who prevented troops from being deployed, despite multiple police chiefs begging for those troops beforehand, and throughout the day on Jan 6th 2021, as things escalated.

2) As reported by Revolver News better than anyone else, the FBI's own investigative reports of Jan 6th at the Capitol show that "at least 20" un-indicted co-conspirators (i.e., undercover FBI agents, who stoked protesters to commit violence, who smashed windows and tried to push Trump supporters to violence, but they didn't take the bait and follow them into violence as intended.) The 100,000 Trump supporters that day mostly vocally identified these agents as "feds", and either ignored these Feds, or restrained them from smashing windows and committing violence. These un-indicted co-conspirators, such as Ray Epps, were initially identified as wanted on the FBI's own website. But as soon as Revolver News identified them as likely FBI agents in their coverage, the wanted photos on the FBI's website were taken down the next day, and despite being identified, were never arrested.
Meanwhile, about 1,300 Trump supporters currently arrested (only 600 of whom in any way went inside the Capitol !) who are guilty of nothing, no crimes, no trial, no conviction, are being held in federal prisons nationwide for no reason, and in horrible conditions, malnourished, in constant solitary confinement, deprived of medical care, often unable to even shave and bathe, and beaten, not even able to talk to a lawyer. Worse treatment than is given to Al Qaeda terrorists !


3) John Earle Sullivan and his Antifa/BLM group in dozens of videos openly boasted about disguising themselves and PRETENDING to be Trump supporters, and in their own self-incriminating videos committed a large percentage of the "insurrection" violence and vandalism. They openly boasted ON VIDEO of gleefully wanting to frame Trump supporters, or even tricking Trump supporters into following them into destruction and violence.
But Trump supporters, over 90% of whom only walked in and around the Capitol that was open to them, often with Capitol police welcoming them in and holding the doors wide open for them, are now indefinitely in jail for a year and counting, despite being guilty of no crime.
And Trump is banned from posting on Facebook and Twitter and 17 other social media sites, as allegedly posing "too much danger of inciting violence" to be permitted to post. Trump was banned while he was still president, despite clearly saying in his 70-minute Jan 6th 2021 speech that his supporters should walk over to the Capitol building and "PEACEFULLY and patriotically voice your support" for the Senators and House members who were contesting the electoral vote count inside, in a joint session of Congress.
Throughout the afternoon, about every 30 minutes, President Trump continued to urge his supporters in multiple texts to "remain peaceful". When there was rioting, Trump finally broadcast a message for his supporters to "leave in peace" and "go home". Only a false narrative that completely avoids the facts could accuse Trump of inciting the rioting on Jan 6th 2021.
And again, of the over 100,000 people who protested that day, only about 600 went inside the Capitol building, many welcomed inside by the police themselves.
And of that 600, about 90% only entered the Capitol and peacefully walked around (charged with "trespassing") .
And of the 60 or so who committed violence or vandalism, "at least 20" (Revolver News, sourced from the FBI's own investigative reports) were "un-indicted co-conspirator" FBI agents stoking the mob, and at least another 20 were John Earl Sullivan's Antifa/BLM group DISGUISED as Trump supporters. So if at least 40 of the 60 were people were not actually Trump supporters, but were in fact people trying to set up and frame Trump supporters... can the events of January 6th fairly be called a Trump supporter insurrection?
No.
No, it can't.
And meanwhile, as 1300 innocent Trump supporters are kept imprisoned indefinitely without humane conditions or a trial, and Trump is banned from even communicating on Twitter and Facebook... John Earle Sullivan who orchestrated the shooting of Ashli Babbit ( and videotaaped it on two cameras, from 2 different angles), the only overt murder of the day, and by a Capitol police detective, NOT by a Trump supporter.... John Earle Sullivan has been lounging at home on house arrest pending trial, and has been free for the last year to post his hate and stoke violence on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and elsewhere.
In what alternate parallel universe is this lawful or fair, or equal justice? It's an insult, and a humiliation for half the country.

4) in Hannity's above interview of former Trump DOJ official and prosecutor Kash Patel, they detail the documentation that Trump authorized 10,000 to 20,000 National Guard troops to maintain order on Jan 6 2021, that House speaker Pelosi and DC mayor Bowser IN WRITING refused and obstructed. And yet Trump and his supporters are falsely accused and imprisoned, and these Democrat leaders obstruct any investigation into their own actions that caused the violence, and of any investigation of the fact that the FBI itself is who, through fake-Trump-supporter undercover agents stoking the crowd, set up the violence, that Pelosi/Bowser's stand-down of National Guard troops made possible.

This is very similar to what happened in Charlottesville Virginia on August 12 2017, where an all-Democrat mayor and city council and city police leadership ordered no police protection the day of the protest, and Democrat governor (and longtime Clinton operative) Gov Terry McAuliffe arranged for the Virginia State Police (VSP) armored with riot gear and police batons actually pushed the 2,000 pro-General Lee statue protesters (mostly retired police and military) and the separate 300 self-identified white supremacists off their pre-obtained city-permit-designated protest area, and right into a mob of 12,000 BLM and Antifa who surrounded them on all sides, and the crowd hurled rocks and glass bottles at them from all sides, during the entire 2 miles they retreated completely unprotected by police, back to their cars to leave.
As detailed in the prior Charlottesville topic here.
Democrats did this, removed police presence that would have prevented violence, to deliberately create violence, and manufacture the Democrats' and allied liberal media's desired narrative of a "Trump supporting violent white racist mob" (despite that, completely separate from the pro-monument/pro-Trump conservatives, only a small fraction of them were actually white supremacists, there to hijack the event for their own self-promotion, unrelated to protests just to keep the statue).
In both the Jan 6 2021 incident at the Capitol, and the August 12 2017 incident in Charlottesville, both incidents occurred because that is exactly what the Democrats WANTED to occur, and what they had deliberately set the stage to occur, decreasing police protection to increase violence. To create their talking points false narrative.

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Two other details of the Democrats' "January 6th insurrection" :

1) Despite the DOJ/FBI pointlessly arresting 1300 alleged trespassers, not one of them has been charged with insurrection. And as I said, at least 90% of those arrested are only guilty of "trespassing", not violence or vandalism. There is no evidence, ZERO, of an organized campaign of violence to seize or occupy the Capitol or any other grounds, or to take captives. There are ZERO people killed by Trump supporters. Of the five who died, two are by strokes (including Officer Brian Sicknick), one died of a heart attack. Ashli Babbitt was killed by a Capitol police officer (for no reason). And the last one a 34-year old woman was initially alleged a drug overdose, but in fact appears to be from Capitol Police brutality, so possibly a second police killing of a Trump supporter.

2) According to FBI assistant director of counter-terrorism Jill Sanborn in Senate hearings answering Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) and Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), she said of the FBI's investigation of Jan 6th at the Capitol, not a single firearm was confiscated inside the Capitol or anywhere in the surrounding area on January 6 2021.
Vice president Kamala Harris in her incendiary prepared speech yesterday on the one-year anniversary on January 6th, said she and other legislators were "barricading themselves behind metal file cabinets". From WHAT?!? From guns and bullets that didn't exist? And were therefore impossible to have ever been fired to cower from? Complete fantasy, a completely deceitful and pointlessly divisive Democrat false narrative.

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Here'ss another more complete Youtube video of the above Hannity program, with the Kash Patel interview, and also interview of Rep Jim Jordan and Rep. Jim Banks, who were not included in the partisan-Democrat January 6th witch-hunt committee:

Hannity, Jan 6 2022, Thursday


Same video (but NOT deleted by censoring Youtube). Kash Patel details documentation of Trump's authorization of up to 20,000 National Guard troops to deter violence on Jan 6 2021, but obstructed and refused by speaker Nancy Pelosi, and by Wash DC mayor Muriel Bowser (Kash Patel is interviewed from 20:00 to 24:49 in the video) :
https://news.yahoo.com/hannity-reacts-january-6-riot-025901080.html

Hannity, Jan 6 2022, Rep Jim Jordan, Rep Jim Banks


There is not one Representative on that House January 6th investigation committee who did not vote for Trump's impeachment, and therefore have a partisan agenda to destroy Trump and his supporters, NOT to objectively investigate the true events on Jan 6th. If they DID want to pursue the true facts and not just contrive a Bolshevik narrative, they would subpoena speaker Nancy Pelosi, subpoena the congressional Sargent at Arms, subpoena the Capitol Police chief, and subpoena others involved in refusing Trump's request for up to 20,000 National Guard troops, the absence of which enabled the FBI and Antifa-orchestrated rioting and chaos.
And subpeona all their self-incriminating exchanged e-mail communications with Speaker Pelosi.
And subpoena the "at least 20" un-indicted co-conspirators including Ray Epps, all to testify. And all the FBI superior officers who sent them on January 6 2021 to infiltrate and frame Trump supporters. And have them testify UNDER OATH.
And subpoena John Earle Sullivan and all of his Antifa/BLM group that were there openly gloating on video they were going to frame Trump supporters.

But hey, that would require an interest in the truth, that this partisan "House select committee" hit squad clearly doesn't have.

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Wow.

Ted Cruz grills FBI assistant director Jill Sanborn, about FBI agents on January 6 2021 rally



That pretty much destroys the "Trump supporter insurrection/ domestic terrorist threat" narrative, with a single 2-minute series of questions.
It makes clear the sleazy way the FBI framed Trump supporters, to falsely label them as "domestic terrorists", where she absolutely refused to answer, in a way that looks like Jill Sanborn exercising her First Amendment right to not incriminate herself and her agency for crimes.

  • CRUZ: "Did FBI agents or informats actively participate in the January 6th events, yes or no?"
    SANBORN: "Sir, uh, I can't answer that..."

    CRUZ: "Did any FBI agents or informants commit crimes of violence on Jan 6?"
    SANBORN : "I can't answer that sir."

    CRUZ: "Did any FBI agents or informants encourage or incite crimes of violence on January 6th?"
    SANBORN: "Sir, I can't answer that."


That's it.
Game over. GAME OVER.

Exposed.
In recent months it's been proven there was no armed insurrection, that FBI or other law enforcement did not find or confiscate a single firearm on Jan 6th.
FBI has confirmed there was no organized violence, just a few random acts that could more accurately be described as some minor rioting, not any evidence to support a national insurrection narrative.
We've seen that the leader of Oath Keepers shared a hotel room with an FBI undercover agent, and it was this agent that gave the battle plan to Oath Keepers for Jan 6th.

That there were "at least 20" un-indicted co conspirator undercover FBI agents (as exposed by Revolver News, from the FBI's own investigative reports of Jan 6th) , who were in the crowd, and in the videotaped examples of Ray Epps and others, were trying to stoke the protesters to violence that they had no interest in committing.
That when these "at least 20" agents were exposed by Revolver News, the FBI suddenly wiped their wanted photos from the FBI website, and never pursued or arrested them.
While simultaneously and with incredible irony, jailing grandmas who only walked inside the Capitol that day, maliciously imprisoning them in harsh conditions for over a year in jail and counting, in isolation with no lawyer or trial, while the ACTUAL inciters and violent offenders are hidden and protected by the FBI.

And now Jill Sanborn is asked directly if these were FBI agents who were already previously established to be present, were in fact participants and EVEN THE PLANNERS AND INSTIGATORS OF THE VIOLENCE , and she evasively refuses to answer, in a way that is basically an admission of guilt by the FBI.

The 97% Hillary Clinton-donating DOJ/FBI was weaponized to frame Trump and his supporters for violence that FBI agents themselves planned and orchestrated, to frame Trump and his supporters.

Game over.
The "right wing terrorist/insurrection" narrative is dead.
And the over-reach of an oppressive Democrat-loyalist Deep State FBI who ACTUALLY planned and executed it at every stage, is fully exposed.

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    Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.

    EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.
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Rep. Matt Gaetz, Rep Marjorie Taylor-Greene, expose evidence Jan 6th violence orchestrated by FBI "Fedsurecction", to frame Trump supporters



This was broadcast in its entirety by OAN, I flipped over to Fox News and Newsmax, and neither of them covered it live, or even gave summary of it after the fact.
A clear case of important events, that these ostensibly conservative networks selectively omitted coverage of.

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MICHAEL FANONE QUITS DC METRO POLICE, JOINS CNN AS COMMENTATOR



Wow, gee, I'm so shocked....

The partisan cop who has unrelentingly railed on Republican Senate and House members as alleged conspirators who should be criminally prosecuted for insurrection or treason, who called the entire Republican party something that should be "cut out like a cancer".... that dedicated, apolitical and totally neutral police officer, now joins the most partisan of all the liberal partisan news networks.
Well, I guess that totally proves his neutrality, how could we have been so wrong? Oh well, Avenatti's departure opened up another con artist position at the network.


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https://bobbypowell.substack.com

A citizen journalist I mentioned earlier in the topic, who has posted plenty of video footage of the unidentified persons smashing windows on Jan 6th, and photographed the [presumably FBI] provocateurs inciting Trump supporters to go inside the Capitol. Videos that can identify several of the "up to 20" un-identified co-conspirator (FBI agents) who are clearly identifiable committing crimes, but the FBI has taken their photos off their FBI website, the ones who started and orchestrated the violence. FBI /DOJ is not looking for them, and is instead arresting trespassing grandmas and grandpas.

Despite plenty of footage that can identify the REAL "insurrectionists", the FBI has no interest in identifying or arresting them, because like Ray Epps, they work for the FBI,. And finding and identifying them would force the FBI to admit the whole thing on Jan 6th was a false flag operation by the FBI, to frame Trump supporters, to crush the Trump movement. And to create a distraction that would allow Biden to be inaugurated without an electoral votes challenge on Jan 6th.
I'll eternally blame a weak-willed Mike Pence for not stalling the electoral count, and forcing a televised coverage of the election fraud evidence for 2 or 3 weeks in nationally televised joint-session House and Senate hearings.

After a year of Biden, maybe there is enough public consensus and pressure for removing Biden, and having that public debate.
Although that will not likely happen before the mid-term election, and hopefully resulting in Republican House and Senate majorities, to create the investigative hearings.

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ASHLI BABBITT PUNCHED OTHER RIOTER SECONDS BEFORE SHE WAS SHOT, NEW VIDEO SHOWS


And:

https://americangulag.org/zachary-jordan-alam/

The guy she punched (whose glasses fell of when she hit him), Zachary Alam, was smashing windows, and she apparently did it to stop him.

One report I saw said Alam was wearing an earpiece. And that his photos were on the FBI most wanted website, then were taken off.

Alam also shouted "fuck the blue" in court. Does that sound like a Trump supporter? No, it doesn't.


Further, Ashli Babbitt was a military police officer, and if you've ever met one, they're very law and order by-the-book kind of people, who know the law better than just about anyone in the military. It looks like she was trying to stop rioters, not like she was a rioter. And there were three officers blocking the double glass doors, who suddenly step aside for no logical reason, and immediately the mob starts smashing the windows, and seconds later Ashli Babbitt was shot. On video, from two different cameras.
That reeks of a set-up.
Again, the three officers moved away from the doors for no logical reason, and then Capitol police officer Lt. Michael Byrd shot Ashli Babbitt, who by his own televised-interviewed account did not see her face, did not see her hands to know if she was armed or not, and fired on her anyway, but was never even investigated for shooting this unarmed 5 foot girl. There are a number of things that don't add up.

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The realities of the Nov 2020 election rigging were reported even 5 weeks before the 2020 election:
https://stateofthenation.co/?p=29549

Although not well known until after the election. But still observed and documented, despite the Democrat-Left, and George Orwell's liberal media and social media buried under a narrative of "conspiracy theory". Despite that two Democrat 2020 candidates, Sen. Amy Klobuchar and Se. Elizabeth "Pocahantas" Warren, and also Democrat Sen. Ron Wyden, has all advanced the same warnings of election fraud, and even pushed legislation to stop it in 2019. But now that election fraud has worked in their party's favor, these same Democrat-Bolsheviks portray it as just "right wing conspiracy theory", to say that what they themselves warned about, with legislation to stop it no less is what actually happened in 2020.

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Cue more "it has to be fraud...and vote rigging...and the deep state...and we need a civil war..." from the band of misfit morons gauging less popular than Biden, crime, and inflation...

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Originally Posted by iggy
Cue more of my profanity-laden insults and pointless antagonism, without a shred of fact to back up what I'm saying. Just unleashing vulgarity and insults at people I dissagree with, because I can't intellectually match them in the realm of debate and facts...


And by the way : "gauging" ? Spell much? Write english much?

The "Band of misfit morons" are the Democrats who to a man support Marxism, sometimes euphemistically branding it Socialism (but "The goal of socialism is communism" --Vladimir Lenin), the morons who screech "De-fund the police", the Democrat morons who support Black Lives Matter and Antifa, the morons who cheered on as BLM/Antifa burned and looted 575 cities in 2020, the Democrat morons who cheer on nightly attacks by Antifa on federal buildings and armed attacks on federal agents and ICE agents. The Democrat morons who release violent criminals with no-bail laws so they can rape and kill more people. Except of course (the guy who attacked Paul Pelosi, the illegals bussed to Martha's Vinyard) when THEY are at risk, and then suddenly they want violent criminals in jail, and illegals deported. ONLY then. And mayors and city councils like those in Chicago and Los Angeles, that rail on de-funding the police, but then reserve 50 officers to protect themselves, hypocritically, obscenely, while the protection they took away from their constituents causes people to be raped and killed.

And about "wanting a civil war", I've heard no Republican voice that. Republicans are the rule off law side, who believe in our system and institutions, no matter how much the Democrats try to rig the political machinery.
It is the DEMOCRATS who want Socialism/Marxism, who undermine the rule of law, the party of crime, the party of illegal immigration and of circumnavigating and undermining border security, the DEMOCRATS who support the Bolshevik violence and intimidation of BLM and Antifa. Who tear down, burn and urinate on statues of our nation's founders, such is their hatred for our nation and Constitution. (NANCY PELOSI: "I don't care about statues...")
It is the DEMOCRATS who want to stack the Supreme court, and support protesters outside their homes 24/7 intimidating them and their families to prevent them from neuttrally ruling on cases.
It is the DEMOCRATS who are trying to federalize elections (H.R.1, S.B.1) to set up authoritarian one-party rule, where Republicans can not even challenge unfair elections or ask for election re-counts when there is question of rigged elections. Where the Democrat party permanently rigs the system, so they can never lose another election.


And by the way, moron, The top three issues of concern to voters are inflation (CAUSED by Democrats), rising crime (CAUSED by Democrats), and rising illegal immigration/lack of border security (CAUSED by Democrats). All of which were not even issues when Trump left office on Jan 20, 2021. Less than 2 years later, Democrat Bolshevism and contempt for our laws has made them all major crises.

The only reason Republicans have not reaped landslides in 2020 and 2022 is because Democrats have rigged the election machinery. And I've already cited abundant sources to back that up.
And by the way, when was the election... ? Tuesday.
What day is it now...? Saturday.
Do we have the election results yet...? NO.
The prosecution rests. It's (yet another) rigged election. The delays allow Democrats to see how far ahead the Republicans are, so they can manufacture and inject the amount of fake ballots needed to rig a narrow Democrat win.

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Originally Posted by Wonder Boy
Originally Posted by iggy
Cue more of my frofnity-laden insults and pointless antagonism, without a shred of fact to back up what I'm saying. Just unleashing vulgarity and insults at people I dissagree with, because I can't intellectually match them in the realm of debate and facts...


And by the way : "gauging" ? Spell much? Write english much?

The "Band of misfit morons" are the Democrats who to a man support Marxism (sometimes euphemistically branding it Socialism (but "The goal of socialism is communism" --Vladimir Lenin), the morons who screech "De-fund the police", the Democrat morons who support Black Lives Matter and Antifa, the morons who cheered on as BLM/Antifa burned and looted 575 cities in 2020, the Democrat morons who cheer on nightly attacks by Antifa on federal buildings and armed attacks on federal agents and ICE agents. The Democrat morons who release violent criminals with no-bail laws sso they can rape and kill more people. Except of course (the guy who attacked Paul Pelosi, the illegals bussed to Martha's Vinyard) when THEY are at risk, and then suddenly they want violent criminals in jail, and illegals deported. ONLY then. And mayors and city councils like those in Chicago and Los Angeles, that rail on de-funding the police, but then reserve 50 officers to protect themselves, hypocritically, obscenely, while the protection they took away from their constituents causes people to be raped and killed.

And about "wanting a civil war", I've heard no Republican voice that. Republicans are the rule off law side, who believe in our system and institutions, no matter how much the Democrats try to rig the political machinery.
It is the DEMOCRATS who want Socialism/Marxism, who undermine the rule of law, the party of crime, the party of illegal immigration and of circumnavigating and undermining border security, the DEMOCRATS who support the Bolshevik violence and intimidation of BLM and Antifa. Who tear down, burn and urinate on statues of our nation's founders, such is their hatred for our nation and Constitution. (NANCY PELOSI: "I don't care about statues...")
It is the DEMOCRATS who want to stack the Supreme court, and support protesters outside their homes 24/7 intimidating them and their families to prevent them from neuttrally ruling on cases.
It is the DEMOCRATS who are trying to federalize elections (H.R.1, S.B.1) to set up authoritarian one-party rule, where Republicans can not even challenge unfair elections or ask for election re-counts when there is question of rigged elections. Where the Democrat party permanently rigs the system, so they can never lose another election.


And by the way, moron, The top three issues of concern to voters are inflation (CAUSED by Democrats), rising crime (CAUSED by Democrats), and rising illegal immigration/lack of border security (CAUSED by Democrats). All of which were not even issues when Trump left office on Jan 20, 2021. Less than 2 years later, Democrat Bolshevism and contempt for ourr laws has made them all major crises.

The only reason Republicans have not reaped landslides in 2020 and 2022 is because Democrats have rigged the election machinery. And I've already cited abundant sources to back that up.
And by the way, when was the election... ? Tuesday.
What day is it now...? Saturday.
Do we have the election results yet...? NO.
The prosecution rests. It's (yet another) rigged election. The delays allow Democrats to see how far ahead the Republicans are, so they can manufacture and inject the amount of fake ballots needed to rig a narrow Democrat win.

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At least in my case it's just a typo I easily corrected.
Whereas you can't, and make up words like one of the illiterate chimps on an episode of Jerry Springer or Maury Povich.

I've cited the facts, that you can't dispute.
About the Bolshevik lawless nature of the Democrat party.
About the PROVEN consistent election rigging they use every election cycle.
About the Democrat/Left's worship of Marxists, and their clear, and not even hidden at this point, attempts to destroy our Constitutional republic, and replace it with an authoritarian Socialist/Marxist police state where they control every aspect of our lives.
I've cited the facts, that you can't dispute, but can only hate and lash out against, maliciously and impotently.

All you have are your tantrums and profanity-laden insults


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There is a litany of solid takedowns for all those "facts" you cite. And, yes, I mean litany because you and your ilk refuse to believe anything that runs contrary to your narrative, you absolute worst of postmodernist tendencies. It has become boringly routine to prove how wrong you are. Your world is a delusion and everything that attempts to correct that for you is "propaganda" and "LIBERAL MEDIA." You've built your own loser prison, chump. Good luck rotting with the rest of the MAGA movement.

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Originally Posted by iggy
There is a litany of solid takedowns for all those "facts" you cite. And, yes, I mean litany because you and your ilk refuse to believe anything that runs contrary to your narrative, you absolute worst of postmodernist tendencies. It has become boringly routine to prove how wrong you are. Your world is a delusion and everything that attempts to correct that for you is "propaganda" and "LIBERAL MEDIA." You've built your own loser prison, chump. Good luck rotting with the rest of the MAGA movement.

That's your standard line, a litany of takedowns, EXCEPT YOU NEVER CAN take them down.
Moron.

I cite chapter and verse sourced information from award-winning, in many cases Pulitzer winning journalists, and you go back and back to the infantile mantra of LA-LA-LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU. RIGHT WING, EXTREMIST, INSURRECTIONIST, etc. etc.

i.e. ...

Originally Posted by Iggy
panic panic Nyah nyah nyah, you're a poopyface, fuck you, fuck your mother, asshat, doofus, etc. etc. panic panic

Point: You have NEVER proven me wrong, you just rant profanity and insult-laden (dare I say it?) SCREEDS, that bypass the sourced facts I present. Some of the most acclaimed journalists on the planet. Even more respected for having the integrity to walk away from high-paying 7 figure jobs at mainstream news agencies that have become propaganda networks, to preserve the integrity of their journalism. In Glenn Greenwald's case, a news agency that HE BUILT !

And I'm not "Ilk", YOU are ilk.
I'm a Reagan conservative who has been consistent in my beliefs through multiple presidents over the last 42 years.
You support the Occupy Wall Street chaos, and the Democrat craziness that keeps going further and further Bolshevik-revolutionary-Left, no doubt including the excrement after OWS that has become Antifa and BLM. You cite only partisan leftist propaganda media, and scorn and won't even look at the award-winning journalists I cite, who have proven their integrity, way beyond the Democrat propaganda you indoctrinate yourself to believe.

But hey, here I am reasoning with you, as if you were actually sane.

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Dude, a simple google search proves you wrong, but you'll try to write-off any debunking as "lies." That's why no one bothers with you anymore. Even G-man seemed done trying to stand by you by the time he left. Facts don't care about your feelings. Remember that, crybaby?

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Originally Posted by iggy
Dude, a simple google search proves you wrong, but you'll try to write-off any debunking as "lies." That's why no one bothers with you anymore. Even G-man seemed done trying to stand by you by the time he left. Facts don't care about your feelings. Remember that, crybaby?

A "simple search" that you assure us exists, but you can never provide.

Moron.

I provided the hundreds of sourced facts you ignore, because you are immune to facts, and processing that information would shatter your precious crazy leftist ideological bubble.

A simple glance at G-man's last dozen or so posts makes clear why he left. He had a death in his family and was busy as executor of the estate and probably funeral arrangements, at the same time his wife and daughters were slandered and weaponized against him here, and he said these boards have "become a very mean place". And you are the perfect example of that meanness and ugliness. In private messages he has let on that he was often busy with cases that took up his time, and he invited me and a few others to post on other more busy forums.
I don't know what happened to Pariah, he has often taken breaks for months, or even years, partly due to his military deployment overseas.
Others have stopped posting here for similar reasons, they get busier in their personal lives, or are posting on sites like Facebook and Twitter. I've dabbled in other sites, but in spite of the occasional interrupttion by jerks like you, I've always liked these boards.

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A simple google search is easy to do, man who doesn't like his screaming into the inter-void on a dead forum interrupted.

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translated from what the infants speak on Planet Iggy:

Originally Posted by Iggy
cry cry I lash out at you with personal insults, because I can't beat you in a rational discussion. cry cry

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Ignore the link because you know Dinesh lied to you, but you can't be man enough to admit being duped.

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Originally Posted by iggy
Ignore the link because you know Dinesh lied to you, but you can't be man enough to admit being duped.

Just a search list, filtered by ultra-leftist google of any sources they don't like. I'll indulge the top 5 on the list :

1) factcheck.org = Washington Post = far-left propaganda media, posing as a neutral factcheck. It's not.

2) Reuters = compromised Democrat zealot Trump-hating activist liberal reporters (see Sharyl Attkisson's lecture above)

3) Mlive.com = A clear Democrat/Left slant from some site in Michigan. Appears to be a liberal blog. (Michigan Live?)

4) NPR.org = BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! Obvious leftist propaganda source.

5) Politifact = far-left affiliated subsidiary of the Tampa Bay Times, another hyper-partisan Democrat/Left propaganda source, posing as a neutral factcheck site

And what the hell, one more...

6) Poynter.org = another source affiliated with the Tampa Bay Times, another liberal propaganda site


That's a pretty insular liberal bubble of sources, that Google doesn't venture outside of in their search list.

I was feeling frisky, so i looked ahead a few more pages in Google's search list. It wasn't until I got to PAGE 4 that I finally saw a single conservative review of 2000 Mules, from Heritage.org, followed by several more search pages of liberal-media-only sites.
https://www.heritage.org/election-integrity/commentary/the-fraud-dare-not-speak-its-name

No Fox News, no Newsmax, no OAN, no Daily Caller, no Breitbart, no Townhall.com, no National Review, no Washington Times, no New York Post, no WSJ, nothing. Gee, you's almost think... Google''s search engine has no interest in providing a search list that allows you to see both sides, just one side that fits their far-left (I almost typo'd fart-left) indoctrinated point of view, the only side permitted.

Finally on PAGE 7 of Google's search list I saw one more from RedState.com, another conservative drop amid an ocean of liberal propaganda sources.
https://redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2022/05/10/fact-checking-the-fact-checkers-2000-mules-n561941

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I thought you guys made fun of the red head about circling back, but here we are right back at you proving my point that everything that disagrees with you is lies and propaganda.

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Originally Posted by iggy
I thought you guys made fun of the red head about circling back, but here we are right back at you proving my point that everything that disagrees with you is lies and propaganda.


it's well known that Google overwhelmingly is far-left liberal, donates heavily to the Democrats, and Project Veritas has multiple times caught employees talking about how they systematically rig the Google machinery to aid the Democrats, and crush access to information that would persuade voters to the Republican side. At both the executive level, and among Google's frontline employees. Likewise at Facebook, Twitter and Youtube.
FACT.

https://www.projectveritas.com/news/zach-vorhies-google/
https://www.projectveritas.com/news...ublic-says-burden-lifted-off-of-my-soul/
https://www.projectveritas.com/news...t-trump-situation-in-2020-on-hidden-cam/
https://www.projectveritas.com/news...nes-power-you-are-just-plain-and-simple/

And about 2 years before the 2020 election, I posted links to a researcher who showed the deliberate manipulation of algorithms by Google would suppress information in searchess that would supress Republican turnout by at least 6 million votes.
https://pjmedia.com/election/victor...-six-million-votes-to-joe-biden-n1170152

And here's another warning in a separate study from the Media Research Center:
https://www.foxnews.com/media/midte...t-republicans-media-research-center-says

But again, here I am speaking to you as if you were a reasonable person, interested in actual facts.

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About 2 weeks ago, Tucker Carlson had a report where he released a large sampling of the security camera video from inside the Capitol building on January 6, 2021 during the peaceful protests, with just a handful of riots and vandalism.
AGAIN: Out of well over 100,000 protesters in Washington Square that day, only about 600 protesters who entered the Capitol buildign that day, only about 60 were involved in clashing with police or violence.
And of that 600, "at least 20" (as reported by RebelNews and American Greatness) were "un-indicted co-conspiratiors", as the FBI documents in their own investigation reports, FBI code for their own undercover agents disguised as Trump supporters. And another 20 were John Earle Sullivan and his Antifa Salt Lake City group, who openly boast in their videos that the will engaage in vandalism and violence that ACTUAL Trump supporters will be blamed for. And those videos are everywhere.
So... of the 60 engaged in vandalism and violence, at least 40 of the 60 were ***NOT**** Trump protesters, but people hostile to Trump supporters who were trying to frame Trump supporters and trick them into violence.
But it didn't work. The undercover FBI agents, the Antifa agents, the other fringe groups, were NOT Trump supporters, as is clear in the Antifa online videos, and the FBI's own reports.

The video released for 2 years (withheld by Democrats, because it disproved their false narrative) proves the Trump protesters inside were overwhelmingly peaceful, just wandered inside and took a few selfies, and left. For over 2 years, the amount of security video was estimated at about 14,000 hours of footage.
It turns out, the actual amount of footage is 41,000 hours. Withheld by Democrats, so they could front a deceitful narrative.
Only the House majority shifting to the Republicans after the Nov 2022 elections, seated in January 2023, broke that Democrat stranglehold on false narrative, and allowed the video evidence to now (at least partially) to finally be released, and provide evidence that the "Storming of the Capitol" narrative was a complete lie.

I notice that even Wikipedia has quietly re-titled their former "Storming of the Captiol" narrative listing. But still contans a lot of deliberate weasel-wording to try and prop up parts of the Democrat false narrative.

But regardless, the evidence disproves that narrative.
Even as Democrat-Bolshevik attorney general Merrick Garland prepares to arrest and torment another 1,200 innocent protesters, protesters who never even entered the capitol, just to try and prop up that collapsing false narrative of "dangerous domestic terrorist / white supremacist / insurrectionist Trump supporters".

https://rumble.com/v2c1hdo-tucker-carlson-tonight-3623-fox-breaking-news-march-6-2023.html

https://rumble.com/v2c5u3w-tucker-carlson-day-two-of-jan-6th-video-tape-release.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack

https://www.conservapedia.com/J6_Capitol_protests

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