Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
So does it make sense that an agency would try to audit how many paid informers were there if this was all part of a large conspiracy that maga accuses it of being? All the doubt you’re trying to sow is information given to the public by the fbi. The alleged masterminds


You're responding to my posts, M E M, but I don't know specifically what parts you're responding to.

I'm just guessing in an attempt to answer you, but if you mean the undercover FBI agents that FBI has admitted to having in the Trump protester crowd on January 6 2021, I already said that I'm confident these are not all the agents they had in the crowd that day, but only THE ONES FBI AND DHS ARE ADMITTING TO.
And FBI is only admitting this many because they feel it is imminent that these operations will be exposed, and so gamble that it looks slightly better for FBI if they admit to this much, before it is exposed by the media or by patriotic agents disgusted by these abuses, who will be willing to come forward once Trump is back in power, and at the point they know their own agencies won't srill be able to destroy them just for being whistleblowers willing to come forward and expose corruption.

And we saw plenty of whistleblowers destroyed in that way in IRS, FBI and other agencies, who came forward to tell the truth about Hunter Biden's laptop and tax evasion, and instanly saw themselves punished, demoted, and their careers ended in retribution.


I think in many cases there is an emboldened arrogance to FBI leadership, having gotten away with its abuses of power since at least 2005 and not getting caught :

1) The malicious prosecution of Senator Ted Stevens (R-Alaska), whose FBI prosecution was so malicious that it was overturned unanimously by the U.S. Supreme Court. But Senator Ted Stevens still lost his Senate sea to a Democrat (which I think was precisely the plan of the FBI agents involved in the accusations and prosecution)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Stevens#Trial,_conviction,_and_reversal

2) The malicious prosecution of Scooter Libby for allegedly outing Valerie Plame. But the FBI prosecutors involved in that case quickly figured out it was deputy defense secretary Richard Armitage who UNINTENTIONALLY gave hints to reporter Robert Novak who wrote the story outing Plame.
So it was NOT Scooter Libby.
Novak was given the idea that former ambassador Joe Wilson's wife might be employed by the CIA by Armitage. And independent of that, Novak used reference materials on his own to figure out her name.
This Libby prosecution was all just so Democrat agents in the FBI could could help the Democrats across the 2006 and 2008 elections by creating the narrative of "Republican culture of corruption" and "convicted criminals in the Bush administration".
But oddly completely bypassed any attempt to prosecute Richard Armitage, and FBI / Fitzgerald were super gung ho about maliciously prosecuting Scooter Libby, even though he was innocent, just to get a Bush administration scalp to feed their Democrat election narrative. They convicted Libby. And in July 2007 then-president Bush commuted Scooter Libby's sentence, but Libby still had a $250,000 fine, and parole, but without time in prison.

And then in 2018, President Trump revisited the case and fully pardoned Scooter Libby, essentially clearing Libby's criminal record away.
But that still didn't erase the YEARS of time, legal fees and prosecution from 2005-2007. The average prosecution by the FBI costs the person charged between $400,000 and 700,000 in legal costs. And as said previously, that is intended by the Democrat-Bolsheviks to be a punishment and intimidation factor in itself, whether or not the person is actually convicted.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scooter_Libby#Involvement_in_the_Plame_affair

3) The endless weaponization of the FBI by Democrat-Bolshevik agents from 2016 forward : James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Bill Priestap, Kevin Clinesmith, on and on.
I don't even have to list the specific abuses of power by FBI, the specifics are so well publicized and well known, and far from just "conspiracy theory".
NO, M E M, not theory, they are FACTS.

Peter Strzok and another senior FBI agent, Joe Pienka, were sent by Andrew McCable to the White House in Jan 2017 to interview Michael Flynn for the expressed purpose of snaring Flynn in a manufactured perjury trap. Absolute FACT.
In a January 5th 2017 Oval Office meeting that involved Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Sally Yates, James Comey, Susan Rice. they discussed fearing Michael Flynn as incoming director of national intelligence, so they plotted to bury him in prosecution and scandal to have him removed, to prevent him from discovering and exposing the criminal details of the Iran nuclear deal, and other abuses of the FBI , especially "unmasking" FISA / FBI surveiled phone calls from 2009-2016 by the Obama administration, and doing surveillance of highly placed Republicans. Rice and Yates made notes that document the agenda of that January 5th meeting. Absolute fact.
And all 7 involved in that meeting should be criminally prosecuted.

And that's not even getting into Strzok and Page's text messages back and forth discussing how they were going to use their FBI positions (in 2016) to prevent Trump from becoming president, Strzok saying "we will stop it."
And in a later message, Strzok discussing how if Trump (in 2016) did become President, that Strzok would set up an "insurance policy" where even if Trump became president, they would use the FBIt to bury Trump in smears, scandal and investigation, to cripple Trump's presidency, and even remove Trump as president through impeachment. And certainly, use these manufactured scandals to lower Trump in the polls in the 2018 mid-term, and 2020 election.

[Linked Image from rushlimbaugh.com]

4) FBI, DOJ, CIA using their positions to protect Joe Biden and Hunter Biden, and to rig the 2020 election.
The Twiter files, where Priestap and other FBI and CIA agents took private-sector jobs for social media giants, and used their positions to suppress the Hunter Biden laptop story and suppress it from being availlable on Facebook, Twitteer, Google and so forth where the public could learn the Biden laptop facts. FBI leadership deceitfully labelled the Biden laptop "Russian disinformation", despite that they KNEW then it was factual. And from late 2021 forward, the public now knows the Hunter Biden laptop was factual. And when roughly 20% of Democrat voters polled consistently have said for years that if they knew in Nov 2020 the authenticity of the e-mails on Hunter Biden's laptop, they would NOT have voted for Joe Biden in Nov 2020. Absolute fact.
And ignoring the many other ways the Democrats cheated in 2020, that suppression alone rigged the 2020 election.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter_Files

5) And the 51% intelligence officials organized by Anthony Blinkin to sign a fake letter saying that the Hunter Biden laptop "has all the earmarks of a Russian disinformation campaign" , but all 51 were just Democrat operatives creating a false campaign narrative to help Biden win the 2020 election, and NONE OF THE 51 HAD EVEN READ the contents of Hunter Biden's laptop when they signed onto that letter and narrative. It was just a DNC dirty trick to help their corrupt guy, and corrupt party, win.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden_laptop_controversy#Intelligence_officials

On and on, the corruptions and abuses of power by the FBI.

Feel free, M E M, to clarify what part of that, and more proven FBI corruption, is "conspiracy theory", and not actual fact.
As I've said before, the abuses of the FBI go all the way back to J. Edgar Hoover, FDR, JFK, LBJ, Bill Clinton ("Filegate"), and on up through the Obama and Biden presidencies.

And under incoming attorney general Pam Bondi, these people and many more I didn't list, need o go TO JAIL for weaponizing FBI and DOJ, against Trump, and against pretty much anyone else who got in their way (RFK Jr., Tulsi Gabbard, Sen. Robert Menendez, Eric Adams) in abusing power to advance their own interests and ideology, and to inimidate and silence crittics of Democrat orthodoxy.