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https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/05/us/politics/biden-trump-2024-poll.html


Trump could win while he's sitting in a jail cell!

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https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/2024/





I've actually seen that discussed, that even if Trump were convicted and sentenced to prison, he could still serve as president from jail.
And millions nationwide would overwhelmingly support him doing this, because the prosecutions are so clearly partisan abuse of federal agencies, so clearly deep state persecution of Trump.

No person in legal history of the United States, no mafia figure, no war criminal, no terrorist, no serial killer, has been as abused and mistreated in malicious prosecution as Trump is right now.

Niw we'll find out.

The law didn’t force Trump to have sex with a porn star and then pay hush money to keep her quiet before an election. There was a time this would have been a problem for a candidate for our highest office. After Jan 6 I already know his supporters will support him no matter what. It’s also unlikely that Trump will see jail time for this as he will certainly appeal. That will take years.

You mean the porn star (Stormy Daniels) who wrote and signed a sworn written affidavitt that she did NOT have sexual relations with Trump?

And further received $160,000 in payment in a non-disclosure agreement with Trump. (And actually, an agreement with attorney Michael Cohen, by all evidence without even Trump's knowledge, and Trump just reimbursed Cohen for legal expenses AFTER the fact, AFTER the election.
And an utterly disreputable Michael Cohen further lied to Trump about legal expenses, to embezzle a further $60,000 from Trump. ("Were you lying then Mr. Cohen, or are you lying now?")


Likewise Stormy Daniels (a k a, Melanie Clifford) who first met Donald Trump in 2006, and was trying to cozy up to Trump to get a spot on Trump's The Apprentice program.
And it was only AFTER she was denied a slot (for her slit) on The Apprentice tha she said to others that she was going to make money off Trump somehow, and amid a book she published, plus a "Let's make America horny again" travelling stripper tour nationwide, plus selling Stormy Daniels merchandise exploiting her implied sex withTrump.
And somewhere along the line making allegations that she had a sexual relationship with Trump, said by her MUCH LATER, when she'd exhausted her other exploitations of her alleged tryst wih Trump, only at that point, then looked for a way to extort money from Trump directly from a non-disclosure agreement payoff, NOT because it actually happened, but just to extort cash from Trump to silence her.

As I said before, I initially believed Trump had slept with Stormy Daniels.
But as the evidence has come out of Stormy Daniels' consistent manipulative behavior over the last 2 decades, and her spiteful attitude and manipulation of many others (her ex-husband described her as a "complete psychopath"), and that it was only AFTER she had been rejected as a contestant on The Apprentice that she ever began to allege she had a sexual relationship of any kind with Trump.
At first alleging that she had a CONSENSUAL relationship with Trump (videotaped saying this, in an interview years ago).
And only 18 years later in court, did she allege that Trump FORCED himself on her. (AGAIN a case of : "Were you lying then, Ms. Clifford, or are you lying now?")

Add to that how, in addition to other well documented cons and treachery on her part, how Stormy Daniels is a hyper-partisan Democrat who has many times said she would say ANYTHING to prevent Trump from being elected.

If Trump had actually slept with Stormy Daniels, he would have just given her a spot right away on he Apprentice.
That he didn't, it seems clear to me that Trump decided she wasn't worth the grief, seeing that she was of a type he had dealt with before, a type that would spitefully allege untrue things just to exploit him later, if he let her get too close. So I think he didn't have sex with her, and she has ever since been exploiting a false "Trump had sex with me" card to the hilt.
It is a FACT she has changed her story a dozen times over in the last 18 years, so she, like Michael Cohen, is completely unbelievable, and has spiteful greed/extortion motivation to accuse Trump. And also a vindictive partisan political reason to accuse Trump.

Re: "The law didn’t force Trump to have sex with a porn star and then pay hush money to keep her quiet before an election. "

PROVE this is true.
You can't. You are just a Leftist partisan who is eager to accept any slander that damages Trump and lets your Democrat-Bolshevik party win in 2024.
Despite the colossal contradictions in the stories of Melanie Clifford/Stormy Daniels.
And also the contradictions of Michael Cohen, who has been repeatedly found guilty of perjury and other crimes.
Not made-up crimes that no one has ever been prosecuted for before, as in the cases against Trump, but ACTUAL crimes by Cohen, such as tax evasion, embezzlement, and fraud with his cab business.

Re: " There was a time this would have been a problem for a candidate for our highest office."



Ohhh, you sound so, SO principled !!
Uh... BILL CLINTON?
Ted Kennedy, JFK, RFK, LBJ, FDR ?!?
Barney Frank?
Gerry Studds?
We've had this conversation before. For you, sexual affairs are only an issue when they involve REPUBLICANS, only then are they a shameful and terrible thing that should remove a sitting political leader, or disqualify a new candidate from gaining office, no matter how unproven (Donald Trump, Herman Cain, Roy Moore, Brett Kavanaugh).
Your hypocrisy is on full display.

And you can't prove that Trump or any of the other Republicans I listed are guilty of anything.
The Democrat-Bolsheviks always convict them in the court of public opinion, NOT in an actual court.

In the case of Juan Merchan's court, that is so obviously a rigged trial, where the judge selected a partisan jury in a 90% ultra-partisan Trump hating venue, a Trump hating partisan Democrat judge who conducted the trial in a hyper-partisan way, who "sustained" every prosecution objection, "over-ruled" and shut down every Trump defense objection and presentation of witnesses and exculpatory evidence (PRIME EXAMPLE: testimony by Michael Cohen's former attorney Robert Costello who was shut down by Merchan every time he opened his mouth to testify what he knew about Michael Cohen) , with a hyper-partisan Alvin Bragg as prosecutor.
A trial rigged at every turn with suppressed evidence and suppressed facts, NOT a fair trial, a clearly Soviet-style show trial.

As the highest legal scholars Jonathan Turley and Alan Dershowitz and many others have said.
Alan Dershowitz further said "it was the weakest case I've seen prosecuted in 60 years of law practice."

And just today, a post on the court's website reveals a juror revealed to him, posted a day in advance of the verdict, that the jury would convict Trump, which apparently this person and his "friend" on the jury gleefully celebrated.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ny...case-family-member-before-guilty-verdict
Which once confirmed, will result in throwing out the verdict, WITH PREJUDICE. Because the thing has been so corrupt from start to finish.





But conversely, when sexual allegations involve Democrat political leaders ...PERFECTLY FINE. Nothing to see here.

30 years after Bill and Hillary Clinton were in office, none of the major [liberal] networks have ever even given an interview to any of Bill Clinton's accusers.

I loved during a Trump / Hillary debate in 2020, how these 3 women accusers of Bill Clinton were seated right up front in the debate audience, to shake up Hillary Clinton, because she was as guilty as Bill in covering up the rapes and assaults, and no one worked harder to destroy the lives, credibility and reputations of husband Bill's victims.
NOT because Hillary ever believed these women were lying, but just to crush anyone who got in the way of her and Bill's political ambitions, no matter how wronged these woman were by Bill and Hillary.

Re: "After Jan 6 I already know his supporters will support him no matter what. It’s also unlikely that Trump will see jail time for this as he will certainly appeal. That will take years."

The January 6th fake narrative by Democrats was a counter-narrative created to gloss over and hide the ACTUAL "insurrection" that occurred in about 600 cities nationwide, due to the Democrat/Left's orchestrated George Floyd / Black Lives Matter /Antifa protests.
Attempting to sweep away that ACTUAL insurrection under a FAKE January 6th narrative, where no one on Jan 6 was killed by protesters, and no buildings were looted and burned on January 6th.

Aside from officer Brian Sicknick (age 42) whose brother the coroner told that Sicknick (who by the way, was a Trump supporter who wrote his congressman opposing the Jan 2020 impeachment) died of a stroke, from natural causes.
The four others who died on Jan 6th are argued to have all been killed by Democrat-Bolshevik police excessive force.

UNARMED Ashli Babbitt (age 35) was shot for no reason by a Capitol Police Lieutenant (Michael Byrd).

The remaining three, Rosanne Boyland (34), Kevin Greeson (55), and Benjamin Philips (50) , all had pre-diagnosed fragile health conditions, and on Jan 6th were struck over and over by concussion grenades by police (or by false-flag FBI disguised as police.)

I earlier posted a photo of one of the officers repeatedly firing concussion grenades into a passive crowd of Trump supporters, just standing outside the Capitol, just waving flags. The police officer in the photo (holding a concussion grenade launcher) is still oddly unidentified almost 4 years later, which probably means he is a protected undercover federal agent. from the 97% Democrat-donating FBI.

It’s a matter of record that Trump paid Daniels as well as other women money to keep them quiet.

Please be at the front of an angry mob rushing armed law enforcement charged with protecting elected officials and the building and see what happens WB. I feel bad for the woman buying into Trump’s lies that drove her into doing such a crazy thing but it was her actions that got her shot. Trump should have immediately asked his people to leave once things got out of control. He could have saved her. There are simply no good reasons for Trump not having to simply ask them to leave. Instead he chose to try to use the mob to slow down and stop the certification.

Non-disclosure agreements made by famous people and company owners are NOT illegal, and are made every day.
And as I just cited, it was done to quietly silence an untrustworthy blackmailing woman (Melanie Clifford) to protect Trump and his company, and his marriage, from malicious and false accusations, and done AFTER the election, so it was in fact not even an influence on the 2016 election.

Clifford has a history of similar cons, and ruthlessly exploiting men, to the point that her ex called her a "complete psycho".
And as I just said, it wasn't even Trump who who had any part in the non-disclosure agreement and payment, that Michael Cohen arranged and paid it on his own, and asked Trump for re-payment of it long after the fact. That Trump's book-keeper testified was righfully labelled on the re-payment check as a "legal expense".


This is such a vague comment, what event you're specifically referring to and saying " I feel bad for the woman buying into Trump’s lies that drove her into doing such a crazy thing but it was her actions that got her shot", I have no idea what you're talking about.

I finally figured out that in a very vague and detached way, you're referring to the Ashli Babbitt shooting.
And Trump didn't "cause" her to get shot, she wasn't "driven" by Trump to do something that got her killed, Capitol police lieutenant Michael Byrd shot her through the glass panel of a closed door for NO REASON, despite that she was UNARMED.
And Byrd should be fired, charged and imprisoned for that crime of murder and excessive force.
And also Antifa leader John Earle Sullivan and his fellow Antifa false-flag "Trump supporters" should be prosecuted, wolves in MAGA clothing, who stoked panic among officers, less than two minutes before the Ashli Babbitt shooting, and then JUST HAPPENED to be in the room of he shooting, to videotape the Ashli Babbitt shooting from two different camera angles. Orchestrated by Antifa. All shown in multiple videos.

The sentence after, you're obviously continuing the false narrative that Trump didn't make a comment quickly enough, but I've been through the timeline with you multiple times, with the timeline as given by two LIBERAL media sources, that the firs breach of he Capittol by a handful of rioters out of well over 100,000 PEACEFUL and patriotic Trump supporters. (false-flag FBI disguised as Trump supporters? Anttifa disguised as Trump supporters? Boogaloos or Oath Keepers? Or ACTUAL Trump supporters?)
Breach first occurred around 2:30 PM. It probably took till at leas 3PM or later to verify that it wasn't just a rumor or false report, and the breach actually occurred. And it probably took Trump and those assisting him to compose a statement to his ACTUAL supporters (as opposed to the 70 or so FBI, andtifa and other false-flag agents disguised as Trump supporters in the crowd, and there were many, and that's just the ones in FBI, Antifa, DHS, and DC Metro police THAT WE KNOW OF, NOT actual Trump supporters.

You also gloss over and selectively omit that the majority of the 600 or so who came inside he Capitol building were invited in by Capitol police, holding the double doors wide open to let hem in, and just standing in the hall like an honor guard on both sides as Trump supporters very casually walked past them, and PEACEFULLY wandered around the Capitol building as if they were on a guided tour, taking selfie photos, and were casually followed around by police. AS IS SHOWN IN THE 40,000 HOURS OF VIDEO SURVEILLANCE FOOTAGE INSIDE THE CAPITOL, THAT HOUSE DEMOCRATS SUPPRESSED FOR 3 YEARS, SO THEY COULD MAKE UP THE "VIOLENT INSURRECTION" FALSE NARRATIVE YOU ARE STILL PARROTING, EVEN AFTER IT HAS BEEN DISPROVEN.

Which is why "Quanon Shaman" Jacob Chansley was immediately released from jail, once even a tiny portion of that 40,000 hours had been released a year ago now BY HOUSE REPUBLICANS, who for the first time let this released video footage show the truth, breaking that false Democrat narrative with the ACTUAL VIDEO SURVEILLANCE footage, to show these "insurrecionists" were in truth peaceful and innocent, and falsely imprisoned.
But you're still selling that false Democrat-Bolshevik narrative. Democrats are only interested in what benefits them politically, NOT what the actual truth is of what happened.
And they're perfectly willing to imprison hundreds of innocent men and women in terrible conditions, without even flushing toilets or clean drinking water, indefinitely, based on no evidence, without a fair trial, JUST to prop up that incendiary false narrative of "inssurrection".

Trump didn’t ask his people to leave after it got violent well after it was apparent. Biden actually had time to go on tv in an effort to try to get Trump to fulfill a very basic role as commander in chief. Trump eventually did ask his people to leave but it took over 2 hours for him to do so. Any timeline I’ve seen shows this, not to mention we watched it happen in real time. He’s unfit for the office that he held and will hopefully have to sit his fat ass in court for his actions and inaction for the 2020.

And even when the pos at that point asks his people to leave we got this shit….
"I know your pain. I know your hurt," he begins. "We love you. You're very special. You've seen what happens. You've seen the way others are treated. ... I know how you feel, but go home, and go home in peace."

After watching law enforcement get beaten and sprayed with bear spray because they were in the mob’s way Trump makes it very apparent how he feels and where his sympathy lies.

False narrative, that I've answered a billion times, with exact timelines.
What you say is absolute shit garbage. Absolutely not true.

I used YOUR OWN sourced timeline to demonstrate how untrue this is.

None of them were commander in chief WB. Looking at the records almost everyone was scrambling to get the National Guard in when things started to get out of control except for Trump. He had to be begged to eventually ask his people to leave.
“ WASHINGTON (AP) — Despite desperate pleas from aides, allies, a Republican congressional leader and even his family, Donald Trump refused to call off the Jan. 6 mob attack on the Capitol, instead “pouring gasoline on the fire” by aggressively tweeting his false claims of a stolen election and celebrating his crowd of supporters as “very special,” the House investigating committee showed Thursday night.

The next day, he declared anew, “I don’t want to say the election is over.” That was in a previously unaired outtake of an address to the nation he was to give, shown at the prime-time hearing of the committee.

The panel documented how for some 187 minutes, from the time Trump left a rally stage sending his supporters to the Capitol to the time he ultimately appeared in the Rose Garden video that day, nothing could compel the defeated president to act. Instead, he watched the violence unfold on TV.
”Jan. 6: Trump spurned aides’ pleas to call off Capitol mob

But that ignores...

IT WAS TRUMP WHO, DAYS BEFORE, ISSUED AN EXECUTIVE ORDER FOR UP TO 20,000 NATIONAL GUARD, THAT IF PELOSI AND SCHUMER HAD NOT OBSTRUCTED IT, WOULD HAVE PREVENTED ANY POSSIBLE RIOTING ON JANUARY 6th.

Period.
The end.

Trump did absolutetly nothing wrong regarding January 6th. .

And a video of Nancy Pelosi in a car hyperventilaing on January 6th has just surfaced in the last 2 days,
saying she "takes full responsibiliy" for what happened on January 6th.
That Frau Pelosi has since evaded media questions about, and retracted responsibility for, and pretended she never said.

You and oher Democrat-Bolsheviks create this false narrative about Trump's alleged responsibility for Jan 6th, with this fake timeline narrative, to hide that Pelosi and Schumer are the ones who caused it, and have NEVER been held accountable.
NEVER had to answer any questions about i, from the media, or in House or Senate or FBI investigations.



Just as you (and Joe Scarborough, and Mika Brzezinski, and Joy Reid, and the propagandists on CNN) create fake narratives that Trump is senile and can't finish a sentence (in fact, Trump has shown off repeatedly that he doesn't even need a teleprompter, at multiple speeches and events), in a ploy for Democrats to hide the obvious fact that it is Biden can' finish a sentence and often also has no clue where he even is. As made clear at the G-7 meeting in Italy the last 2 days.


Just as you Democrat-Bolsheviks create the fake narrative that Trump is a threat to our Constitutional republic, TO HIDE THAT IT IS THE DEMOCRATS who are the threat to our republic, who want to create an authoritarian one-party system, and who have weaponized federal agencies against Trump, Republicans, and even against any dissenting Democrats (Alan Dershowitz, Tulsi Gabbard, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., and in 2016 Bernie Sanders) who threaten their power.

It is not Trump or Republicans who have used DOJ and FBI to imprison 1,300 Jan 6 PEACEFUL protesters, indefinitely, without trial or due process.

It is not Trump who has used FBI and DOJ to threaten or imprison parents who just voiced dissent at PTA meetings nationwide, just protesting the woke indoctrination of their children.
But FBI arresed several, and went in parking lots and got dissenters' auto license tag numbers, to intimidate and round them up later as well. And make an example of them, to intimidate other potenial dissenters.

Likewise DOJ and FBI were used by he Biden administration to arrest and maliciously prosecute PEACEFUL pro-life activists, given ridiculously long and disproportionate prison sentences. Just days ago, a 75 year old grandma was sentenced to 5 years in prison, for PRAYING outside an abortion clinic.

To say nothing of the weaponization of FBI and DOJ against Trump himself, in five simultaneous trials, to prevent him from running for president in Nov 2024.
And against Peter Navarro.
And against Roger Stone.
And against Paul Manafort.
And against Michael Flynn.
And against Steve Bannon.
And against former U S attorneys Victoria Toensing and Joe Digenova.
All of whom are former millionaires, who are reduced to using websites to request donations from people nationwide, FOR EVEN THEM to be able to fight the mountains of lawfare legal fees unleashed on them.
And the same with about 3 dozen other associates and employees of Trump, who AREN'T and never were millionaires, who still somehow have to fight the same charges and legal fees, or be forced to take a plea deal, with an FBI gun pointed at their heads. As many Jan 6 protesters were forced to.

The Democrat strategy is consistently authoritarianism and intimidation, EVEN AS THEY ACCUSE TRUMP of posing a threat to the nation of authoritarianism and intimidation.

Well... Trump was president for 4 years, he had all that time to do a Democrat-style authoritarian lockdown on the country if he was ever going to. Trump could have prosecuted and imprisoned Hillary and Obama and the Bidens, and reporters, if he ever truly wanted to.
But Trump, quite the opposite, rather than locking up hostile reporters, gave them unlimited press time, in marathon press conferences, more media scrutiny than any other president in history.

You know who DID investigate and prosecute reporters?
Barack Obama, and now Joe Biden. So the irony just piles up,

And Democrat-Bolsheviks like you never question the ethics or auhoritarian threat of your own party. You just keep on drinking he Kool-Aid, and parroting the clearly false talking points of your insane and Bolshevik party.

The Pelosi video shows her being surprised by the violent mob and feeling as a leader responsible. It shows a leader horrified at the turn of events on Jan 6. Basically the opposite of Trump telling the rioters that “we love you”. Simply put it doesn’t work with the false narrative that Pelosi somehow prevented adequate security for Jan 6th so that this would happen. You had all the top leaders trying to get the national guard there after violence erupted except for Trump. As I understand it there isn’t an actual executive order from Trump for a number of National Guard but he was part of a call and suggested 10,000 guard. If one existed it would have been part of the record. Trump could have gotten the national guard there sooner though but he chose not to even with people from his side begging him to. That’s more than a failure of leadership WB that you can’t justify.

Nancy Pelosi damn well should feel responsible, BECAUSE SHE IS responsible.

She PERSONALLY shut down Trump's executive order for up to 20,000 National Guard troops to guard Washington Square on Jan 6 2021.
Pelosi is PERSONALLY responsible for stopping a deployment that would have prevented any rioting or violence. SHE personally stopped it, no one else. And infuriatingly, she tries to blame Trump.
But Trump did his part to take preventive measures. And Pelosi let it happen. No one else..

Pelosi like others below the commander in chief simply don’t have the power or authority to do what you falsely state. Trump never issued an executive order for Jan 6. And once the mob became violent and people from both sides were frantically trying to get more help in he wasn’t.

That is total B.S. on your part.

It is a FACT that Trump, three days prior to Jan 6th, authorized 10,000 troops (and up to 20,000) and that the Speaker (Nancy Pelosi) and Senate majority leader (Chuck Schumer) have the responsibility to delegate that order, through each's respective Sergeant-at-arms. They both prevented the National Guard troops Trump ordered from being deployed. They just ignored the order.
DC mayor Muriel Bowser also was given authorization by Trump for as many troops as she wanted, but she IN WRITING declined them.
Pelosi and Schumer were more slippery in not declining them in writing. But it is through the House and Senate leaders that the order would Constitutionally move through the separation of powers to be authorized.
And Pelosi dropped the ball, but was never even questioned about it in the Soviet-style "House select committee on January 6th".
If Republicans keep their majority, she WILL be forced to testify on what she has, so far, gotten a free pass on from the Democrat-Bolsheviks.