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The consensus on both sides is that it was a complete disaster for Biden, and the Democrats are now in full panic mode about the Nov 2024 election.

Trump was already at least 4 percentage points ahead nationally, BEFORE the debate (45% Biden, vs 49% Trump), so this will just push Trump into an even greater lead.
For once, Democrats who regularly watch CNN, MSNBC and the other liberal media , for he firs time were not seeing selectively edited video to Biden to look competent, seeing Biden as he actually is every day, and Democrats were horrified.

I seriously doubt there will be a second debate after this train wreck.

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Biden advocates in the liberal media turn on president and 'weep' following Trump debate: 'I've seen enough'

Van Jones, Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski and the rest.

The house of cards collapses.

If you didn't already know, "Morning Joe" is Biden's favorite political show.
That must have been a tough one for Biden to watch.
Et tu, Joe?

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Actually the polls have been showing Trump losing support since becoming a convicted felon but this debate obviously helped Trump. He told some big lies and Biden didn’t really challenge him on much of it. My hope is Trump will still do the second debate but I’m afraid he’s going to let that be the last one.


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They'll probably replace Biden with Big Mike or Gavin Newscum.


"My friends have always been the best of me." -Doctor Who

"Well,whenever I'm confused,I just check my underwear. It holds most answers to life's questions." Abe Simpson

I can tell by the position of the sun in the sky, that is time for us to go. Until next time, I am Lothar of the Hill People!
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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
Actually the polls have been showing Trump losing support since becoming a convicted felon but this debate obviously helped Trump. He told some big lies and Biden didn’t really challenge him on much of it. My hope is Trump will still do the second debate but I’m afraid he’s going to let that be the last one.


That is quanifiably untrue, and just wishful thinking on your part.
Trump actually WENT UP in the polls since his fake conviction in a rigged court, and Republicans, Independents, and even many Democrats, are incensed by the blatant unfairness of that trial and rigged verdict.

And further, donations to the Trump campaign have dramatically risen since Judge Juan Merchan's fake conviction, as of today about $200 million added to the Trump campaign, and 33% of those donations by people who have never donated to a campaign before now.

All those things manifest a dramatic rise in support for Trump, NOT a decline.

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Full debate on Youtube, for anyone who missed it :

CNN Presidential Debate: - President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump



THIS commentary cuts to the bone, that everyone on every network is saying.

When Van Jones, Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski, and the New York Times ediorial board are all instantly calling for Biden to drop out, IMMEDIATELY after the debate, I don't see how anyone on he Democrat side can hope to spin that as a win for Biden.

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Here's a brief clip of Bill O'Reilly's response to the Trump/Biden debate :

Bill O'Reilly and Geraldo Rivera react to Biden-Trump debate


I still miss O'Reilly on Fox. Arguaably Tucker Carson was closer to my own Paleo-Conservative views, but O'Reilly has a common-sense no-nonsense approach to how he presents issues that appeals to me. At one and the same ttime, he is both blue collar in his approach, and a Harvard-educaed news anchor, and frequently wwildly funny, and this clip is no exception.

Aside from this interview on News Nation, O'Reilly has a nightly show on The First news network, at 8 PM, the same time-slot as his program on Fox News was on , for over 20 years.

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I hope Biden is willing to step away. This election is to important for our nation and the sad reality is that we have two unfit candidates to choose from right now.


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
I hope Biden is willing to step away. This election is to important for our nation and the sad reality is that we have two unfit candidates to choose from right now.

Yes.

It's important for Trump to defeat the Democrat-Bolsheviks who have weaponized federal agencies to persecute not just Trump and his former cabinet members, but also weaponized FBI in 6 AM raids on PEACEFUL and patriotic Jan 6th protesters, PEACEFUL pro-life demonstrators, and PEACEFUL parents who just voice opposition at PTA meetings to "woke" indoctrination of their children by leftist-controlled school boards, where FBI take down their license-tag numbers as they exit the meetings and get in heir cars in the parking lot, so FBI can later bash in their doors at 6 AM , throw them to the floor, and arrest them with AR-15s pointed at their heads wiih red laser-dots on their heads.

And hold them in jail indefinitely without due process or even allowed to see an attorney.

It is creepy as fuck that you cheer this on, and are perfectly fine wih it.
The Democrat-Bolshevik party.

Here are just a few of the overt ways Democrats are openly moving forward plans o destroy the United States and our Constitution. OPENLY discussed and boasted abou by Democrat leaders:


1) Democrats, doing whatever it takes to establish authoritarian Marxist/socialist one-party rule in the United States, and abuse every federal power in Democrat hands to do so, to inttimidate and crush their Republican opposition, by any lawless means.
And really, to crush ANY opposition to their authoritarian power-grab, even within the Democrat party, including Tulsi Gabbard, Alan Dershowitz, Jonathan Turley, Rudy Giuliani, Judge Cannon in one of the Trump cases, and all the other lawyers and judges nationwide who are intimidated and destroyed if they dare to defend Trump.
(Specifically, "The 65 Project", that uses lawfare to bankrupt and disbar any lawyer who takes Donald Trump's side and dares to legally defend him.. )

Is that Constitutional freedom, when Trump, even if he actually committed a crime, is prevented from even getting legal counsel o defend himself, because so many lawyers are intimidated from taking his case?

And don't imagine those Democrat tactics will end, and only be used this one time with Trump, if Democrats successfully prevent Trump's election in Nov 2024.
No, this will be standard practice against ANY future Republican presidential candidate, or Senate or House candidate.
As will the IRS intimidation and harassment of prominent people in the Republican party, or Republican campaign donors.
Far from it, the Democrat-Bolsheviks, if victorious in November, will be emboldened to do even worse.
Just as they have escalated their Bolshevik lawless intimidation tactics every 4 years since the 2000 election.

2) Democrats openly plan to expand and stack the Supreme Court with Democrat/Liberals, to make it a rubber stamp for whatever Democrat-Bolshevik legislation they want passed. And for years now, and again just today, they are attacking and intimidating any Justice who doesn't vote their way.
They already almost got Brett Kavanaugh killed by a fanatic who broke in his home to kill him.
But Biden , and Obama in the 8 years of his term, both do nothing to discourage the targeting of conservative justices OR OF THEIR FAMILIES in their homes.

3) Democrats want to make Washington DC and Puerto Rico states, not because they qualify, but just to rig the Senate and give Democrats another 4 seats, that they hope will give Democrats a permanent Senate majority.

4) Democrats want to eliminate the electoral college that our founders set up to give representation to smaller states. But Democrats want to wreck that, to once again secure a permanen majority for the Democrat-Bolsheviks.

5) And ultimaely, Democrats are purposely letting in 10 to 20 million unvettted and potentially criminal aliens, just to import millions more Democrwt voters, who enter illegally and have no respect for our nation, its history, its laws, or its people. Biden and the Democrats are trying to buy their votes by giving them admission, and all kinds of free benefits THAT ARE NOT EVEN PROVIDED TO AMERICANS.
And actually put millions of Americans a risk.
Rapes, murders, human trafficking, criminal gangs, entering drug cartels, drunk drivers, other violent crimes, over 100,000 Fentanyl deaths a year now (more than all the cumulative total deaths in the Korean and Vietnam wars combined, killed in a single year, and every year now going forward, in new drug overdose deaths.
And you and other Democrats are perfectly okay with that. All on board.




Every last one of these clearly planned and boasted about goals by the Democrats would cause the death of our Constitutional republic, and do untold damage to the nation and its citizens. But you're totally on board with it.

And if not Biden as the 2024 nominee, but some other Democrat-Bolshevik candidate, makes no difference. They all share the same goals and enable the same agenda.

Remember when Biden was the "moderate" in 2020, that would prevent the excesses of people like Bernie Sanders and A O-C?
Yeah, well... instead Biden was just the goofy friendly face that enabled the radicals in his party to run wild and destroy the country (as was predicted by Laura Ingraham and every conservative pundit on Fox. ANYONE paying attention saw it coming).
And a Biden presidency became a de-facto Bernie Sanders presidency, pushing through every radical-Democrat unconstitutional Bolshevik abuse of power.that Sanders would have.

Gavin Newsom would do the same.
Gretchen Whitmer would do the same.
Amy Klobuchar would do the same.
Oh-so-principled RFK Jr would do the same.
Whatever their stated virtues, they ultimately are each a Trojan Horse for exactly the same liberal fascism he enire Democrat party is infected with.


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