Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
Originally Posted by Wonder Boy
Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
Like the 2020 election Trump is saying he won the debate.

The consensus is that Kamala Harris was perceived to have "won" by just relentlessly insulting Trump and getting him angry.

But that Kamala Harris didn't expand beyond her base or persuade independents she needs, that 6 in 10 independents after the debate now support Trump. But by that measure, it was Trump who won the debate. And why Kamala Harris is desperate for another debate, because beyond insulting Trump she gave no facts in the first debate to persuade independents.

The polling I’m seeing shows Harris widened her lead on Trump after the debate. It’s just been a couple of days and conservative outlets are doing their part for Trump but there’s nothing in that debate Trump said that I can see attractive to independents that were not all ready planning on voting for Trump. What poll had the 6 in 10 results? Harris wants another debate because she’ll beat him again. And in the debate she said a couple of things about fracking and gun control that I think more moderate voters in swing states liked hearing. Another debate would give her more opportunity to do more of that of course.

The Oprah interview where she said she would shoot a home intruder (completely wild to me as an Australian)... it might cause consternation amongst the anti-gun lobby, but it won't cost her Democrat votes. However, it quashes the argument that she is going to take away people's guns.

Suspect that anyone who is anti-guns is also likely to be pro-choice, and that they might value reproductive choice higher than gun control. I don't know.

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