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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
So does it make sense that an agency would try to audit how many paid informers were there if this was all part of a large conspiracy that maga accuses it of being? All the doubt you’re trying to sow is information given to the public by the fbi. The alleged masterminds


You're responding to my posts, M E M, but I don't know specifically what parts you're responding to.

I'm just guessing in an attempt to answer you, but if you mean the undercover FBI agents that FBI has admitted to having in the Trump protester crowd on January 6 2021, I already said that I'm confident these are not all the agents they had in the crowd that day, but only THE ONES FBI AND DHS ARE ADMITTING TO.
And FBI is only admitting this many because they feel it is imminent that these operations will be exposed, and so gamble that it looks slightly better for FBI if they admit to this much, before it is exposed by the media or by patriotic agents disgusted by these abuses, who will be willing to come forward once Trump is back in power, and at the point they know their own agencies won't srill be able to destroy them just for being whistleblowers willing to come forward and expose corruption.

And we saw plenty of whistleblowers destroyed in that way in IRS, FBI and other agencies, who came forward to tell the truth about Hunter Biden's laptop and tax evasion, and instanly saw themselves punished, demoted, and their careers ended in retribution.


I think in many cases there is an emboldened arrogance to FBI leadership, having gotten away with its abuses of power since at least 2005 and not getting caught :

1) The malicious prosecution of Senator Ted Stevens (R-Alaska), whose FBI prosecution was so malicious that it was overturned unanimously by the U.S. Supreme Court. But Senator Ted Stevens still lost his Senate sea to a Democrat (which I think was precisely the plan of the FBI agents involved in the accusations and prosecution)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Stevens#Trial,_conviction,_and_reversal

2) The malicious prosecution of Scooter Libby for allegedly outing Valerie Plame. But the FBI prosecutors involved in that case quickly figured out it was deputy defense secretary Richard Armitage who UNINTENTIONALLY gave hints to reporter Robert Novak who wrote the story outing Plame.
So it was NOT Scooter Libby.
Novak was given the idea that former ambassador Joe Wilson's wife might be employed by the CIA by Armitage. And independent of that, Novak used reference materials on his own to figure out her name.
This Libby prosecution was all just so Democrat agents in the FBI could could help the Democrats across the 2006 and 2008 elections by creating the narrative of "Republican culture of corruption" and "convicted criminals in the Bush administration".
But oddly completely bypassed any attempt to prosecute Richard Armitage, and FBI / Fitzgerald were super gung ho about maliciously prosecuting Scooter Libby, even though he was innocent, just to get a Bush administration scalp to feed their Democrat election narrative. They convicted Libby. And in July 2007 then-president Bush commuted Scooter Libby's sentence, but Libby still had a $250,000 fine, and parole, but without time in prison.

And then in 2018, President Trump revisited the case and fully pardoned Scooter Libby, essentially clearing Libby's criminal record away.
But that still didn't erase the YEARS of time, legal fees and prosecution from 2005-2007. The average prosecution by the FBI costs the person charged between $400,000 and 700,000 in legal costs. And as said previously, that is intended by the Democrat-Bolsheviks to be a punishment and intimidation factor in itself, whether or not the person is actually convicted.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scooter_Libby#Involvement_in_the_Plame_affair

3) The endless weaponization of the FBI by Democrat-Bolshevik agents from 2016 forward : James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Bill Priestap, Kevin Clinesmith, on and on.
I don't even have to list the specific abuses of power by FBI, the specifics are so well publicized and well known, and far from just "conspiracy theory".
NO, M E M, not theory, they are FACTS.

Peter Strzok and another senior FBI agent, Joe Pienka, were sent by Andrew McCable to the White House in Jan 2017 to interview Michael Flynn for the expressed purpose of snaring Flynn in a manufactured perjury trap. Absolute FACT.
In a January 5th 2017 Oval Office meeting that involved Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Sally Yates, James Comey, Susan Rice. they discussed fearing Michael Flynn as incoming director of national intelligence, so they plotted to bury him in prosecution and scandal to have him removed, to prevent him from discovering and exposing the criminal details of the Iran nuclear deal, and other abuses of the FBI , especially "unmasking" FISA / FBI surveiled phone calls from 2009-2016 by the Obama administration, and doing surveillance of highly placed Republicans. Rice and Yates made notes that document the agenda of that January 5th meeting. Absolute fact.
And all 7 involved in that meeting should be criminally prosecuted.

And that's not even getting into Strzok and Page's text messages back and forth discussing how they were going to use their FBI positions (in 2016) to prevent Trump from becoming president, Strzok saying "we will stop it."
And in a later message, Strzok discussing how if Trump (in 2016) did become President, that Strzok would set up an "insurance policy" where even if Trump became president, they would use the FBIt to bury Trump in smears, scandal and investigation, to cripple Trump's presidency, and even remove Trump as president through impeachment. And certainly, use these manufactured scandals to lower Trump in the polls in the 2018 mid-term, and 2020 election.

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4) FBI, DOJ, CIA using their positions to protect Joe Biden and Hunter Biden, and to rig the 2020 election.
The Twiter files, where Priestap and other FBI and CIA agents took private-sector jobs for social media giants, and used their positions to suppress the Hunter Biden laptop story and suppress it from being availlable on Facebook, Twitteer, Google and so forth where the public could learn the Biden laptop facts. FBI leadership deceitfully labelled the Biden laptop "Russian disinformation", despite that they KNEW then it was factual. And from late 2021 forward, the public now knows the Hunter Biden laptop was factual. And when roughly 20% of Democrat voters polled consistently have said for years that if they knew in Nov 2020 the authenticity of the e-mails on Hunter Biden's laptop, they would NOT have voted for Joe Biden in Nov 2020. Absolute fact.
And ignoring the many other ways the Democrats cheated in 2020, that suppression alone rigged the 2020 election.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter_Files

5) And the 51 intelligence officials organized by Anthony Blinkin to sign a fake letter saying that the Hunter Biden laptop "has all the earmarks of a Russian disinformation campaign" , but all 51 were just Democrat operatives creating a false campaign narrative to help Biden win the 2020 election, and NONE OF THE 51 HAD EVEN READ the contents of Hunter Biden's laptop when they signed onto that letter and narrative. It was just a DNC dirty trick to help their corrupt guy, and corrupt party, win.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden_laptop_controversy#Intelligence_officials

On and on, the corruptions and abuses of power by the FBI.

Feel free, M E M, to clarify what part of that, and more proven FBI corruption, is "conspiracy theory", and not actual fact.
As I've said before, the abuses of the FBI go all the way back to J. Edgar Hoover, FDR, JFK, LBJ, Bill Clinton ("Filegate"), and on up through the Obama and Biden presidencies.

And under incoming attorney general Pam Bondi, these people and many more I didn't list, need o go TO JAIL for weaponizing FBI and DOJ, against Trump, and against pretty much anyone else who got in their way (RFK Jr., Tulsi Gabbard, Sen. Robert Menendez, Eric Adams) in abusing power to advance their own interests and ideology, and to inimidate and silence crittics of Democrat orthodoxy.

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The Senate and Congress just met in joint session to open and read the electoral ballots from the electoral delegates of each state, to officially certify that Donald Trump and J.D. Vance are now the verified elected president and vice president of the United States. Verified by Mike Johnson and V.P Kamala Harris (as president of the Senate).
What an interesting complete overturning of what happened on January 6 2021.

Noteworthy that this IS THE FIRST TIME SINCE 1988 that Democrats have not challenged and tried to prevent an elected Republican from becoming president when the Democrats lost the election (as they did in 2000, in 2004, and 2016).


And how Democrats used agents of a 97% Democrat-weaponized FBI and agents of DHS, and other corrupt Democrat-run federal agencies on January 6th 2021 to disguise themselves as Trump supporters and infiltrate and stoke groups like Oath Keepers and Proud Boys to do things they would otherwise never do (and even with the FBI stoking, still did not do), to feed an FBI / Democrat-Bolshevik narrative of "insurrection" panicpanic
To hide THEIR OWN Democrat insurrection and coup, to rig the 2020 election, to seize power illegally for Biden and the Democrats.
And really, Biden was never actually in charge, it has ALWAYS been the Democrat-Bolshevik hand-wringers in the shadows, who behind the scenes were ACTUALLY running the Biden White House the last 4 years.

Bu yeah, despite all this, their narrative is that it's Republicans who are the "threat to democracy".
As opposed to their ACTUAL lawless authoritarian Democrat-Bolshevik revolution. rolleyes

But it's over now, fully over.
Despite all Democrats' weaponizing of DOJ and FBI to imprison thousands of conservatives, despite imprisoning former Trump cabinet members, and despite attempting to imprison Trump himself on "novel" bogus fake charges, and despite armed FBI show-arrest and unlawful imprisonment without trial of thousands of his supporters.
Trump endured, came back, and legitimately won the 2024 election, to such a degree that for the first time in 22 years, the Democrat-Bolsheviks DID NOT EVEN TRY to challenge a Republican president's election this time.

Now it is time for new FBI director Kash Patel and new attorney general Pam Bondi to go after the deep state with everything they've got. And throroughly prosecute and imprison those who have maliciously prosecuted and imprisoned literally thousands of innocent people for purely Democrat-Bolshevik political reasons over the last 20 years now. These people need to go TO JAIL.
Not out of malice or payback, but because they committed actual crimes, and to deter them and others like them from ever weaponizing federal agencies again.
Let the punishment fit the crime.

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I think you’ll find that courts still require evidence WB even with Trump having loyalists like Kash installed. Trump and his toadies will have plenty of rope but I can see it very easily turning into lots of rope to hang themselves. I’m proud that democrats didn’t try to do a version of Trump’s Jan 6. A disgrace maga will never be able to rewrite.


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
I think you’ll find that courts still require evidence WB even with Trump having loyalists like Kash installed. Trump and his toadies will have plenty of rope but I can see it very easily turning into lots of rope to hang themselves. I’m proud that democrats didn’t try to do a version of Trump’s Jan 6. A disgrace maga will never be able to rewrite.


What an utter joke on your part, flying a false narrative that is in POLAR OPPOSITION to the actual facts.

Kash Patel is not a "crony" being "installed" to vindictively prosecute Democrats on made-up completely false politically manufactured charges.
Kash Patel is the rule of law, BEING RESTORED, after 8 years of vindictive Democrat-Bolshevik hijacking of justice, maliciously weaponized against their Republican opponents.

And these Democrats who orchestrated it need to go TO JAIL to deter that from ever again being done by Democrats, or by anyone else.


I've detailed all the specific cases repeatedly, I'm sorry you don't have reading comprehension skills to understand and acknowledge these Democrat CRIMES.

And the finest legals minds in the country, even the Democrat ones like Alan Dershowiz and Jonathan Turley, have been railing against these crimes FBI and DOJ lawfare crimes nightly on television for most of the last 8 years.
Only willful ignorance could make you not see these Democrat-Bolshevik abuses of the law and malicious prosecutions, against Trump, against his cabinet officials and other employees, against peaceful pro-life activists, against parents protesting and speaking a PTA meetings against "woke" indoctrination of their children. and especially against more than 1,500 overwhelmingly peaceful January 6th protesters.
ALL OF THEM pointlessly subjected to 6 AM FBI raids at gunpoint, indefinite imprisonment without trial in the very worst prison conditions, and even deprived of access to a lawyer, even beaten in their cells if they even asked for a lawyer.
THOUSANDS of innocent people the Democrat-Bolshevik weaponized FBI subjected to this treatment.

And the appointtment of Kash Patel is a boost to morale for most agents in the FBI, who detest their lawless Democrat-Bolshevik leadership's abuses of the law.
Only the Democrat-Bolshevik leadership in the FBI, the Christopher Wrays, James Comeys, Andrew McCabes, Peter Strzoks and Kevin Clinesmiths object and are concerned.
And the Bolshevik wing of the FBI are furiously shredding documents to hide their clear guilt.

After 16 straight years of Obama and Biden AND THEIR ACTUAL toadies and cronies, appointed to Democrat-weaponize the FBI, DOJ, CIA, State Department, IRS, ATF and other politically weaponized federal agencies for 16 straight years now obstructing and disobeying orders even during Trump's first term.
As is clear in Kevin Clinesmih's exposed text to other like-minded Democrat-Bolshevik FBI agent conspirators: "Vive le resisence"!!.

You can spin lies all you want, M E M, but THE FACTS tell the actual truth in thousands of reported news stories, in statements by witnesses and whistle-blowers, and I G reports over the last 4 years.
Absolute FACT.


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Originally Posted by M E M
I’m proud that democrats didn’t try to do a version of Trump’s Jan 6. A disgrace maga will never be able to rewrite.

The Democrats have pretty much had an insurrection every time they have lost an election since 2000.
As I detailed earlier, House Democrats tried to overturn the election of Bush in 2000, tried to overturn Bush's re-election in 2004, tried to overturn Trump's election victory in 2016.
So this 2024 election and Electoral ballot count is the FIRST election where Democrats have not bitterly disputed the election of a Republican president IN 24 YEARS !!.

Further, throughout George W. Bush's 8 years, Democrat House and Senate leaders, among other Democrat leaders, called W. Bush an "illegiimate president" who "stole the eleciton" , despite THREE federal election re-counts of the votes in front of the entire global news media.
And then MORE privately funded re-counts of the 2000 ballots by the Miami Herald, Los Angeles Times and other major newspapers.
None of which produced any evidence that Bush "stole" the election.

And further beyond that, there were riots, vandalism and burning of cars, and attacks on Republicans in the streets of Washington DC the day of Trump's Jan 20 2017 inauguration.
Plus Democrat House and Senate members, and Hillary Clinton among other Democrat leaders, who called him "illegitimate", and about 100 of them who --unprecedented-- would no even attend Trump's inauguration. In addition to the rioting, looting, violence, and car burnings..

Plus, y'know, the whole 4-year coup from 2016-2021 by the FBI, DOJ and CIA to frame Trump for "Russia collusion", TWO fake impeachments, an FBI counter-intelligence investigation, leaking of FBI classified documents by James Comey to set up a Mueller-led special investigation, a special investigation teamed by 17 Trump/Republican-hating Democrat-donating lawyers, and not one Republican lawyer.

In another FBI/deep state coup, the FBI buried the Hunter Biden laptop, hid it for an entire year, FBI and CIA with Facebook and witter banned it from being shared on social media, and created a fake letter from 51 intelligence officials labelling it "Russian disinformation", all to rig the 2020 election for Joe Biden.
In several overlapping FBI coups against Trump, the faked letter by 51 [ Democrat ] intelligence officials, said the Hunter Biden laptop "has all the earmarks of a Russian disinformation campaign". And Morelli at CIA (as I linked at the time) after the election admitted NONE of these 51 had viewed the contents of the laptop before drafting that letter, and Morelli further admitted that Anthony Blinkin had instructed Morelli to create the fake letter. To help Joe Biden win the 2020 election, by using government / FBI and CIA disinformation to rig the election outcome. A whole cluster of coup operations, all aimed at electing Joe Biden in Nov 2020

The "Twitter files", how FBI and CIA agents,ostensibly having left their agencies and taken high level posiions in the private sector for Facebook, Twitter and Google (but secrely still operatives of the FBI and CIA, manipulating social media companies into an unholy alliance with federal intelligence agencies) in yet another way suppressed the Hunter Biden laptop from being permitted on Facebook, Twitter and other social media, depriving hundreds of millions of voters of information before he election. That about 20% in polls for the last 4 years consistently say they would not have voted for Biden in 2020 if they'd known the truth about the Hunter Biden laptop e-mails and documents and photos incriminating Joe Biden, and therefore this was another coup / insurrection that rigged the 2020 presidential election.

And then after Trump left office in 2021, the FBI raid on Mar A Lago, the faked photos created by the FBI during the raid of documents, *NOT* as Trump stored them a Mar A Lago.

The National Archives and the FBI conspired to create a fake narrative and FBI case that Trump had mishandled documents, despite that Trump and his staff cooperated with FBI and the National Archives completely for 2 years before the FBI raid. But FBI alleged Trump didn't cooperate with FBI, to rationalize the Mar A Lago raid. While completely ignoring the ACTUAL mishandled illegal documents Joe Biden had, in multiple locations, that Biden (as aa Senator and as Vice President) NEVER had the presidential authority to possess, with carelessly stored documents in his garage and elsewhere spanning back to 1973.

And then FBI, DOJ, The Biden White House, Fannie Willis, Nathan Wade, Alvin Bragg, Letitia James and several corrupt judges all coordinated and conspired to frame Trump and convict Trump in 4 (coordinated) separate trials, to prevent Trump from being able to campaign, and/or slander Trump so he would drop in the polls and not be able to win, even if he continued to run.
Essentially, ANOTHER insurrection/coup against Trump.

Plus two assassination attempts, where Trump was purposefully left exposed and unprotected by a Democrat-Bolshevik Secret Service and FBI in Butler, PA, and a second time on his own golf course in West Palm Beach. The Secret Service and FBI's intent was to let the shooter(s) get off their shots, AND THEN apprehend them once the assassination was completed, and at that point say oops, we got the shooter, but not in time to save the president.

Thomas Michael Crooks' family went silent after the assassination attempt, and lawyered up with the same (CIA-connected) law firm that represented Alexander Vindman.
The second shooter, Ryan Routh, has travelled extensively to other battle-torn islamic countries worldwide, and Ukraine, and CLEARLY is an asset of the CIA and FBI, because no one who wasn' t could travel back and forth that easily to and from those countries. And Ryan Routh's girlfriend (who disappeared without a trace, never idenified, never found) is clearly another FBI or CIA asset, because no one could so thoroughly disappear from agencies with the FBI and CIA's resources to investigate her, unless she was a federal operative.
On and on.

But oh, hey, YEAH ! Democrats are COMPLETELY civil and respect our Constitutional rule of law, NOT AT ALL Bolshevik or insurrectionist or coup-prone, NO SIR !
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Violent Anti-Trump Protests, Jan 2017, Try To Steal Spotlight On Inauguration Day (NBC news)



Riots in Washington ahead of Trump's inauguration (SABC, Souh Africa)



Wow, if only Trump supporters on Jan 6 2021 could have followed the example of these civil and well-mannered Democrats.
These Democrats show so much more respect for the rule of law....
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Wow, these MUST BE right-wing networks, trying to confuse us with the facts.

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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
I think you’ll find that courts still require evidence WB even with Trump having loyalists like Kash installed. Trump and his toadies will have plenty of rope but I can see it very easily turning into lots of rope to hang themselves. I’m proud that democrats didn’t try to do a version of Trump’s Jan 6. A disgrace maga will never be able to rewrite.


“What an utter joke on your part, flying a false narrative that is in POLAR OPPOSITION to the actual facts.

Kash Patel is not a "crony" being "installed" to vindictively prosecute Democrats on made-up completely false politically manufactured charges.
Kash Patel is the rule of law, BEING RESTORED, after 8 years of vindictive Democrat-Bolshevik hijacking of justice, maliciously weaponized against their Republican opponents.

And these Democrats who orchestrated it need to go TO JAIL to deter that from ever again being done by Democrats, or by anyone else.


I've detailed all the specific cases repeatedly, I'm sorry you don't have reading comprehension skills to understand and acknowledge these Democrat CRIMES.”



My reading comprehension is just fine WB. Again courts still require evidence. That will still be true once Trump gets his toady installed. You will be outraged I’m sure.


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
I think you’ll find that courts still require evidence WB even with Trump having loyalists like Kash installed. Trump and his toadies will have plenty of rope but I can see it very easily turning into lots of rope to hang themselves. I’m proud that democrats didn’t try to do a version of Trump’s Jan 6. A disgrace maga will never be able to rewrite.

Again :
lol lol lol

The Democrat-Bolsheviks have rioted, used intimidation and violence, and tried EVERY DIRTY TRICK IN THE BOOK to oppose and try to overturn EVERY PRESIDENTAL ELECTION they did not win for the last 20 years !!!
FACT.

In 2000, 2004 and 2016.
Literally, EVERY ELECTION they did not win. And I just posted, one post above, the video of them rioting in the streets on inauguration day 2017 against Trump.

And for Trump's entire four years from Jan 2017-Jan 2021, Democrat leaders to a man (and woman) divided the country with their viciously untrue rhetoric, based on nothing, calling Trump "illegitimate" and a "Russian asset" and even Democrat House and Senate members inciting attacks on Trump supporters and Trump cabinet members, resulting in literally averaging one attack a day on Trump supporters, and occasionally on Republican leaders like Rand Paul and Pam Bondi, as I've linked and cited repeatedly.



And you and other Democrat-Bolsheviks have the audacity to allege it's Trump and his supporters who are "insurrectionists"?!?
When it's YOUR side, THE DEMOCRATS who rioted and burned about 600 cities nationwide in 2020 in the BLM / Antifa George Floyd riots, tearing down and burning statues of Washington, Jefferson and Lincoln, NATIONWIDE.
Virtually every Democrat Senate and House member verbally threw kerosine on that fire, endorsing these riots, and certainly none voicing a word of opposition to these riots, this INSURRECTION.
Antifa and BLM are the Democrat party's SA and SS, its intimidation wing.
As are the Democrat-weaponized FBI, DOJ, CIA and IRS.
That all ends in about 7 days.

YOUR SIDE calling for attacking Trump White House officials, to create a crowd to attack and intimidate them anywhere they are seen in the street or in public (Maxine Waters, Joe Biden himself, Kamala Harris, Cory Booker, Nancy Pelosi. I've already posted video clips of them saying these things, REPEATEDLY).
FACT.

YOUR SIDE weaponizing the FBI, DOJ, CIA, NSA, IRS, U.S. Postal service and other agencies against Trump and other Republicans, in at least the last two presidential elections, and really, every election since 2000. I've cited the examples, sourced and linked, repeatedly :

* FBI falsely arrested and prosecuted Senator Ted Stevens (R-Alaska). Overturned unanimously by the U.S. Supreme Court. AFTER a Democrat was handed his Senate seat.
* Scooter Libby. Falsely accused (Richard Armitaage, not Libby, is he one who accidentally outed Valerie Plame). Libby was maliciously prosecuted by FBI, sentence commuted by President W. Bush, finally pardoned completely by President Trump.
* The fake letter in 2004 allegedly from George W. Bush's Texas Air National Guard commander. In spite of Democras and he liberal media, the leter was proven to have been faked.
The Democrats' false "Republican culture of corruption" narrative, ANOTHER proven conspiracy between the Democrat-Bolshevik party, and the Democrat-Bolshevik news media.

* 2008.,where Democrat news reporters were exposed meeting on a "Journo-list" message board conspiring and brainstorming how to politically destroy Sarah Palin. And even how to attack and marginalize Bernie Sanders on the Democrat side, to clear the way for Hillary Clinton.
And Obama secretly (and illegally) used ACORN to campaign for him, even though that is a violation of campaign law. And at the time, I posted a video of a former Obama campaign worker who became disillusioned with Obama and confessed how it was done in a video-taped interview.

* In 2010-2012 , Obama weaponized the IRS through director Koskinen and subordinate Lois Lerner, to go after Tea Party groups, denying them tax exempt status to campaign, and burying its organizers in paperwork, to prevent them from having time and resources to effectively campaign in 2012, and using FBI, OSHA, ATF, EPA and other Democrat-weaponized federal agencies to do raids on them, to intimidate and discourage their participation in the 2012 election.
And IRS-audits of large Republican contributors like Frank Vandersloot, who after donating $ 1 million to the Mitt Romney campaign, then was audited by IRS, and had to pay $100,000 in legal fees just to prove in court he didn't do anything wrong.
My first glimpse of the Democrat weaponization of government.


* And when it comes to the FBI and DOJ investigating Trump, the weaponized FBI have broken every rule in OBVIOUS violation of their own FBI agency protocol, over and over. They've faked evidence to get FISA warrants to spy on the Trump campaign's phone calls. FBI surveiled President Trump and his entire staff during the 2016 campaign, and then for another 6 months after he was inaugurated in January 2021. In a desperate attempt to find ANYTHING Trump did wrong so they could accuse him and destroy him.
But they couldn't find ANYTHING.

So they just made stuff up !



* The fake 2016 FBI counter-intelligence investigation for "Russia collusion". That even Peter Strzok said to Lisa Page: "I know here's no 'there' there."

Lisa Page in Sept 2016: "Trump's not going to be president, right? RIGHT?!?"
Peter Strzok answering: "No. No he won't. We will stop it."

And Peter Strzok's later text to Page that they would "create an insurance policy"in case Trump won in Nov 2016, to cripple Trump's presidency, so that even if Trump won, he would be smothered by fake allegations and federal investigations so he would be unable to govern effectively.

* (1) The FBI counter-intelligence investigation for Russia collusion.
The House (2) and Senate (3) investigations of the same.
ALL were ended because of absolutely no evidence of any wrongdoing on Trump's part.

* James Comey leaking classified documents (and somehow not indicted for that himself !) in order to politically trigger forming of the Mueller special investigation, on MORE false charges. That the 100% Democrat-donating Mueller investigative team KNEW in the first 3 months or less was unwarranted and, unspoken by them to the public, proved Trump had done nothing wrong. But that they deliberately stretched the investigation 2 and a half more years, to influence the 2018 mid-term election, in favor of Team Democrat.

* Then (5) the fake whistleblower report, and the first fake impeachment, over a piddly misrepresented phone call to Ukraine president Zelenskyy.

* Then (6) the fake 2nd Trump impeachment over the fake-narrative January 6th 2021 "insurrection". And over 2 years later, all the Democrat narratives about Jan 6th were proven to be completely false, by The 40,000 hours of unreleased security video from inside the Capitol, all finally released. And by all the federal agents revealed, who were DISGUISED as Trump supporters in the crowd, incitting violence, commiting violence blamed on rump supporters, FRAMING and setting up Trump supporters.

But a Democrat-weaponized FBI still arrested and imprisoned overwhelmingly PEACEFUL Jan 6 protesters in 6 AM raids, and FBI overcharged and forced confessions out of roughly 1,500 innocent men and women, over 90% of whom did absolutely nothing wrong. But many were forced to sign plea agreements for crimes they did not commit. There are fake and malicious FBI prosecutions going on TO THIS DAY, right up till Trump's inauguration. New arrests continue. And one trial reported by Laura Ingraham just a few days ago was delayed only because of the current snowstorm this week closing the courts in DC.
Incredibly, FBI's Jan 6th arrests and prosecutions continue, even now.

* Likewise FBI 6 AM armed-raid arrests at gunpoint of pro-life activists, a pointless show of intimidation.
* Likewise FBI raids at gunpoint of parents just speaking out at PTA meetings, objecting to woke indoctrination of their children in local schools.

YOUR SIDE, M E M.

YOUR SIDE engaging in insurrection and revolution, infiltrating, taking over, politicizing and weaponizing government agencies to arrest and imprison any who dare to dissent, on made-up fake criminal charges. Employing the corrupt authoritarian tactics of Soviet Russia, Maoist China, Castro's Cuba, Chavez and Meduro's Venezuela. And as I've often quoted and linked here, those at the highest levels in your party openly admire and emulate these authoritarian Marxist regimes. And hate our own Constitutional republic, and are working to overthrow it.. As is clear in their speeches and writings I've repeatedly quoted and linked.

FACT.



* The FBI suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop for an entire year, to rig the 2020 election for Joe Biden.
In every poll, 20% OF DEMOCRATS say without that suppression of the facts, they would not have voted for Joe Biden. FACT.

* "Twittergate", as revealed by Elon Musk when he purchased and took over Twitter, and revealed the internal e-mails between Twitter executives and their hand-in-glove conspiracy with FBI and CIA officials, including Bill Priesttap of FBI, all coordinated between Twitter and Facebook with FBI and CIA operatives, to suppress the Hunter Biden laptop, to illicily win the 2020 election for Joe Biden and the Democrat-Bolsheviks.

* The faked letter by 51 [Democrat] intelligence officials, as confessed by Morelli, that was orchestrated by Anthony Blinken. Alleging that they looked at the Hunter Biden laptop, and that "It has all the earmarks of a Russian disinformation campaign". Except that, it was revealed after, NOT ONE OF THEM actually looked at the laptop's contents.
Again, to illegally manipulate the election by suppressing voter information, to rig the election for Joe Biden.
Proven reported FACT.

How much more evidence DO YOU NEED, M E M ?!?




Originally Posted by WB
“What an utter joke on your part, flying a false narrative that is in POLAR OPPOSITION to the actual facts.

Kash Patel is not a "crony" being "installed" to vindictively prosecute Democrats on made-up completely false politically manufactured charges.
Kash Patel is the rule of law, BEING RESTORED, after 8 years of vindictive Democrat-Bolshevik hijacking of justice, maliciously weaponized against their Republican opponents.

And these Democrats who orchestrated it need to go TO JAIL to deter that from ever again being done by Democrats, or by anyone else.


I've detailed all the specific cases repeatedly, I'm sorry you don't have reading comprehension skills to understand and acknowledge these Democrat CRIMES.

FACT.


Originally Posted by M E M
My reading comprehension is just fine WB. Again courts still require evidence. That will still be true once Trump gets his toady installed. You will be outraged I’m sure.


No. Apparently it's not.

Kash Patel is not a "toady".
Kash Patel was a prosecutor in South Florida, before he went on to higher positions of legal investigation. With some reluctance he took a job investigating for then-House Judicial committee chair Devin Nunes, and took on investigating the facts of the Trump "Russia dossier" wherever they led. And Patel was ready to expose the facts, even if it proved Trump guilty.. But instead it exposed Christopher Steele, Democrat zealot Nellie Orr at Fusion GPS (and Democrat-zealot husband Bruce Orr who slipped the Russia Dossier in the back door at DOJ, even after it had been proven false and "salacious" by FBI , but they slipped it in as "evidence" against Trump to get FISA warrants anyway). Who the money trail showed were hired by Perkins-Coie law firm, who were hired by the Hillary Clinton campaign and the DNC. That's where the facts led when Patel investigated.

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Show me ANY PROOF that Kash Patel is anything other than serious investigative attorney of integrity, ANY PROOF that he is a "Toady".
It is Patel's dedication to discovering the truth and weeding out corruption that is getting him the job as FBI director. So unlike Christopher Wray, James Comey, Bill Priestap, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Kevin Clinesmith and an ARMY of other politicized Democrat-Bolshevik zealots in the FBI now, PROVEN zealots, who preceded Kash Patel.

To preserve the corruption, your side accuses the guy CLEANING IT UP of corruption.Just to smear him. That's just the Democrat way.
The Democrat party is evil to the core. They are George Orwell's 1984 incarnate. .

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Are you having a problem with the courts still requiring evidence WB?


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Are you having a problem with the courts still requiring evidence WB?

The courts for another 6 days are controlled by the Biden government, and by Merrick Garland's DOJ.

Once that suppression ends in 6 days, you will see some immediate action on that evidence against the Bidens. And the Biden government is handing out pardons like Pez candy, to suppress that justice from happening. Once again, your corrupt Democrat-Bolshevik party, insulating themselves from the laws they have broken.

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Gregg Jarrett in the last of those books, specifically details the laws broken by Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and their inner staff, including destruction of evidence, destruction of federal documents, leaking of classified federal (FBI) documents, destruction of evidence (Hillary Clinton and her aides bleachbitting at least 30,000 documents that had already been subpoenaed by the FBI investigating her, and shattering at least 2 cel phones with even more evidence), obstruction of justice, and a dozen more laws.

And with Jarrett's book, that's just what was known in 2018 ! He has a second follow up book, with even more evidence.
And there is so much more that has been discovered that can be PROVEN the Democrats have done since then.

Democrats who did these things HAVE to go to jail. Because if these Democrats again go unpunished they will just be further emboldened as they have been by getting away with it in 2005, 2007, 2010, 2012, and 2016-2024.

Comey, McCabe and others at FBI faking a FISA warrant to spy on Carter Page, and through surveilling Page, using that FISA warrant to spy on the entire 2016 Trump campaign, and then for 6 months after using it to spy on the entire Trump White House, FAR exceeds the worst excesses that occurred during the Watergate scandal. The Democrat Bolsheviks at FBI (and those above them in the Obama White House) literally tried to overthrow President Trump, to remove him from office, to replace him with a Democrat-Bolshevik government.

ALL these FBI, DOJ and CIA agents who orchestrated this should go to jail.
ALL the Obama and Clinton and Biden officials who orchestrated this should go to jail.
And the guards in jail who mistreated the January 6th prisoners, and other Catholics, PTA parents, and peaceful pro-life acttivists arrested as prisoners, who were arrested for pure political reasons (i.e., for opposing Democrats) and put in awful jails, beaten in their cells, unable to even shave and bathe, with filthy water and toilets that didn't flush (deliberately), to further torment them. Jail conditions these Democrat-Bolsheviks wouldn't subject Al Qaida prisoners to. But such is their hatred for Trump supporters and other conservatives.

ALL the FBI agents who have exhibited Comey, McCabe or Strzok-level Democrat zealotry in their conversations and social media posts who participated in 6 AM arrests and prosecution of Trump officials, of Jan 6th protesters, of peaceful pro-life activists, of peaceful Catholics, of peaceful parents who just spoke at PTA meetings, should GO TO JAIL, or at the very least be fired with no severance pay or pension benefits.
In any other country, they would be put up against a wall and shot for this level of tyranny.

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Among many other criminal and loathesome things Biden alone has done:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fo...nite-debate-bidens-treatment-women-girls

and

"Creepy Uncle Joe" Biden, and his female accusers topic
https://www.rkmbs.com/ubbthreads.ph...Words=creepy&Search=true#Post1238805

In which he shares an impulse toward predatory sexual behavior with JFK, LBJ, Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy, and many other Democrats.

Among their many more criminal and treasonous acts.

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Again courts will require evidence WB. And while maga land might want and expect something that looks like the Salem witch trials, most of the country doesn’t. I wouldn’t be totally surprised if the Trump administration doesn’t spend that much time on trying to pursue revenge that you crave. Trump basically evaded justice by running out the clock. Is he going to want what he did back in the courts?


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
Again courts will require evidence WB. And while maga land might want and expect something that looks like the Salem witch trials, most of the country doesn’t. I wouldn’t be totally surprised if the Trump administration doesn’t spend that much time on trying to pursue revenge that you crave. Trump basically evaded justice by running out the clock. Is he going to want what he did back in the courts?


Once again, you packed a number of blatant false narratives into just a few sentences :

1) "Courts will require evidence"

Well, obviously, even Democrat-Bolshevik Democrat operatives and FBI agents with a ton of evidence against them are still innocent till proven guilty and all that.
But I already cited the abundant evidence, as cited by multiple legal experts in books (shown above, and those just the tip of the iceberg).

And further, Rep James Comer, interviewed almost nightly, details the House investigation evidence that exists against Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, and their other family members who have received illicit kickback cash in a network of shell accounts from Russia, from China, from Ukraine, from Rumania, from Kazakhstan and other countries. Their prosecution obstructed only by a Joe Biden / Merrick Garland DOJ and FBI that absolutely refuses to prosecute he mountains of evidence in these cases.
Payments from those nations to the Bidens amounts to both political corruption, and TREASON.

Incredible irony, that Rep. Adam Schiff and other Democrats accused Trump of being a "Russian asset".
At the exact same time Hunter Biden was laundering money into the U.S. for the wife of the mayor of Moscow, a close personal friend of Vladimir Putin !
And by the way, Hunter Biden was helping Putin's inner circle of Russian oligarchs avoid economic investment sanctions imposed on Russia , both prior to Trump's presidency, and from he further punishing sanctions added on Russia by Trump in 2017-2020.
But yeah, Trump is a "Russian asset" and not the Bidens, right. rolleyes



2) "And while maga land might want and expect something that looks like the Salem witch trials..."

Ceasing to have FBI and DOJ protecting Joe Biden and Hunter Biden from clear evidence that Biden's DOJ/FBI just refuse to prosecute (from a 97% Democrat-Bolshevik DOJ and FBI), corruptly protecting Democrat party elites from prosecution, even as his same FBI simultaneously MAKE UP CRIMES OUT OF THIN AIR, to MALICIOUSLY prosecute Donald Trump and other Republicans for PURELY political reasons.
Compare that eagerness to prosecute and launch gun-heavy 6 AM raids on Republicans, to shielding and burying evidence against Hunter Biden (and by doing so, shielding Joe Biden and Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton) from prosecution with a ridiculous sweetheart Hunter Biden plea deal, that Judge Cannon was sickened by, and threw out of court.
Prosecuting the Bidens is NOT a "witch hunt", it is ACTUAL JUSTICE long obstructed by a corrupted Democrat-weaponized DOJ and FBI.



3) "I wouldn’t be totally surprised if the Trump administration doesn’t spend that much time on trying to pursue revenge that you crave."

I don't crave revenge. I want impartial justice for ACTUAL crimes committed. And as I've said for multiple posts, it is precissely because Democrats were NOT prosecuted for crimes they were CLEARLY GUILTY OF over the last 20 years, they have been increasingly emboldened to further weaponizing IRS, DOJ, FBI and CIA against political opponents over the last 20 years.

* IRS director Koskinen and Lois Lerner at IRS, weaponizing the IRS against Tea Party groups, against teligious conservative groups like Franklin Graham, and against large Republican donors like Frank Vandersloot.

* Falsely accusing and imprisoning Scooter Libby, and Senator Ted Stevens (R-Alaska) on false charges. Rigging evidence, and overcharging to extort plea deals, FROM INNOCENT MEN.
And then have since done the same to thousands more innocent peaceful January 6th protesters, to peaceful pro-life activists, to innocent PTA parents just voicing opposition to woke policy, and to thousands of others falsely labelled as "dangerous white supremacist terrorists" by an ultra-Democrat "woke" and weaponized Biden/Obama FBI.

* Susan Rice and Samantha Powers in the Obama administration, from at least 2012-2016, "unmasking" Republican leaders in at least hundreds of FISA transcribed reports, that FBI Democrats used to attack their political conservative opponents.

* And ultimately, the FBI (Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Kevin Clinesmith) and DOJ (Bruce Ohr, Loretta Lynch) filing false evidence to get FOUR CONSECUTIVE illegal and bogus FISA warants to spy on Carter Page, and through surveiling him, to spy on THE ENTIRE TRUMP WHITE HOUSE.

* And through that, FBI set up multiple false investigations to try and overthrow and remove President Trump from office from 2016-2020.
First attempting to rig the 2016 election for Hillary Clinton.
And then unable to do that, Strzok and other FBI set up what he termed in texts to Lisa Page as an "insurance policy", to frame and cripple the incoming Trump presidency for four entire years .
FBI and CIA both further worked together to frame Trump and set up false impeachment narratives. (The CIA and its lawyers, Adam Schiff and his CIA-affiliated lawyers, plotting wih NSC Obama holdover and Democrat zealot Alexander Vindman.
And Obama NSC holdover and CIA operative Eric Ciaramella.
Then CIA director Gina Haspel JUST BY THE WEIRDEST COINCIDENCE signed an order that allowed an NSC/CIA operatives like Vindman and Ciaramella to accuse and give the pretense for impeaching President Trump,
JUST BY THE WEIRDEST COINCIDENCE, THAT MONTH, RIGHT BEFORE THE HOUSE DEMOCRATS RUSHED FOR AN IMPEACHMENT (Jan 2020) .
And by the weirdest circumstance, no one at CIA can say who or when that whistle-blower witness authorization paper was put on Gina Haspel's desk to be signed, or precisely when it was signed.
Nothing suspicious about all this, NOT AT ALL !
So long as it allows the Democrat-Bolsheviks to take two contrived shots at impeaching Donald Trump, right?



4) "Trump basically evaded justice by running out the clock. "

Ran out the clock ?!?!??!? TOTAL BS on your part.

Judge Cannon dismissed the Mar A Lago documents case as bogus roughly a year ago before the Nov 2024 election.

The Fulton County, Georgia case fell apart because of how incredibly corrupt Fani Willis and Nathan Wade were, Wade being an incompetent inexperienced lawyer who was only hired by Willis for the Trump case because he was the personal sex toy of Fani Willis. And the two of them racked up large sums of money on the state's district attorney expense tab, on "business" vacations across the U.S. in resort hotels to carry on their porn-plot-like sexual liasons. They are corrupt to the point of being a joke. And the case will be completely dismissed.
How is that "running out the clock"?

You celebrate the E Jean Carroll verdict in a completely ridiculous case, as evaluated by the finest legal minds in the country, such as Alan Dershowitz, and Jonathan Turley, among others, that Trump even quoted in his final statements in court.
E Jean Carroll could not give any specifics about her alleged sexual assault by Trump, what day it allegedly occurred, what month, even what YEAR !
But Trump was found GUILTY?!?
A ridiculous verdict, that will inevitably be overturned on appeal. A guilty verdict only made possible by an incredibly biased prosecutor, an outrageously biased judge, and a 93% foaming-at-the-mouth Trump hating jury, that decided they were going to find Trump guilty before the first piece of evidence was shown, just to give a win to the Democrat-Bolshevik party they support, and to stick it to Trump.

Likewise the Stormy Daniels "non-disclosure agreement" case. Where in the real world of New York state law against any other accused person, even if Trump had actually committed a crime, it writing "legal expenses" on the check re-imbursing attorney Michael Cohen" would have been a misdemeanor with a fine of at most $200 for the one charge.
But Trump committed not even this, his then-attorney Michael Cohen handled the Stormy Daniels payment completely on his own, Cohen selling some of his own property to have the cash to write Stormy Daniels the negotiated $130,000 check.
Then sometime after the election, Michael Cohen billed Trump for "legal expenses" that included the Daniels check and other legal matters (including a fraudulent $40,000 that Cohen overbilled for, just because he felt Trump owed him for an annual bonus Trump didn't give Cohen previously, so Cohen just billed a fake charge, CLEAR fraud against Trump).

Oh, AND the statute of limitations to even charge a $200 fine (if guilty, but Trump wasn't) was long expired.
But somehow the prosecutor did a magic trick and collaborated with operatives in the Biden DOJ (which is illegal) to magically turn this one correct "legal expenses" label on a check (which it was) in a non-disclosure agreement. And somehow the prosecutor and Biden's weaponized DOJ resurrected that tiny expired possible misdemeanor fine, and turned it into 34 Federal felonies.
That [b]NO ONE ELSE HAS EVER BEEN INDICTED FOR OR PROSECUTED FOR, OR EVER WILL BE AGAIN, a "novel case" ONLY FOR TRUMP. [/b]
And you, M E M, as a Democrat-Bolshevik, endorse his.

Likewise the Leticia James New York state case, over Trump allegedly misrepresenting the value of Mar A Lago (that in every assessment I've ever seen by any bank or real estate assessor, is estimated at a value of roughly $1 billion.
But leftist/Demoicrat-Bolshevik judge Engoran somehow alleges that the Mar A Lago property is only worth $18 million, about 2% of its ACTUAL value.

Trump did not estimate the value of Mar A Lago, professional property assessors did.
And then the Deutsche Bank, who gave the property loan to Trump, did not challenge that estimated value, because the bank's own real estate assessors came up independently with the same estimated value.
And Deutsche Bank further testified IN COURT that there was nothing improper by Trump or his organization in securing the loan, every payment by the Trump organization was on time, and Deutsche Bank made a huge profit, and would eagerly lend to the Trump organization again.
So... where is the "crime", M E M ? Who is he victim?!?

But a Democrat partisan judge Engoran, a Democrat partisan prosecutor Bragg, and an over 90% Democrat Trump hating jury, found Trump "guilty" (of WHAT?!?) for purely political reasons.
Once again, a "novel case" that NO ONE BUT TRUMP, before or since this case, will ever be indicted or prosecuted for. It's all just theater, so that on some bogus charge, for purely political reasons, Democrat leaders can allege that Trump is a "convicted felon".
On WHAT exactly?
The judge gave the jury a menu of charges they could convict Trump on, and even the jurors could not agree on what of that menu they convicted Trump of.
Is this "justice". M E M ? Is this an actual crime?!? Not, it's not.
THAT, M E M, is an ACTUAL "witch hunt".

Trump didn't "evade justice", there was no justice in these convictions, every one of them were bizarre made up "novel" cases, that NO ONE ELSE, only Trump, before or since, will ever be indicted for or prosecuted for again.
And even the select few fake "guilty" verdicts will be overturned on appeal, such was the OBVIOUS abuse and manipulation of the law to get these charges to verdict, in even the cases that made it to prosecution.

So it's a total B.S. Democrat-Bolshevik narrative to say Trump was guilty of anything, or that he is "Running out the clock" to get away with something. Many of these cases and charges were well beyond the statute of limitations to ever charge, or were dismissed by judges a long time ago. And they were "novel" bogus made-up charges to begin with.
And the ones that got a bogus conviction by sleight of hand with biased judges, biased prosecutors, and carefully selected Democrat-biased juries, the best legal minds in the country say these egregious biases will get all these convictions thrown out on appeal.

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Yes partisans can create legal arguments and write books on anything for their hungry audiences. I suspect these will hold up in court as well as Trump’s legal arguments for the 2020 election. And it’s pretty apparent what you want with the justice system WB. You have many many pages of angry crazed rants telling everyone what you crave. It’s not justice.


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
Yes partisans can create legal arguments and write books on anything for their hungry audiences. I suspect these will hold up in court as well as Trump’s legal arguments for the 2020 election. And it’s pretty apparent what you want with the justice system WB. You have many many pages of angry crazed rants telling everyone what you crave. It’s not justice.


1) "partisans can create legal arguments and write books on anything for their hungry audiences."

Are Alan Dershowiz, and Jonathan Turley (THE TWO MOST RESPECTED LEGAL MINDS IN THE UNITED STATES, and LIFELONG LIBERAL DEMOCRATS, by the way) "partisans" who "write books on anything for their hungry audiences"? lol

Your argument falls apart under its own weight, as obviously untrue and ridiculous. These are not Republicans writing red meat rhetoric to be read only by a partisan Republican audience. They are lifelong DEMOCRATS.
And the most respected legal minds of their time.
And the Obama/Biden Democrat weaponization of the DOJ and FBI against Republicans (and reaally everybody who dissents) is so egregious that EVEN THEY, Dershowitz and Turley, as DEMOCRATS, even they are compelled to protest in their writings and televised interviews against the clear Democrat- Bolshevik abuses of FBI, DOJ, appointed special investtigations and other lawfare against innocent Republicans.

Dershowitz has further called it, and repeatedly, nothing short of modern McCarthyism.



2) " I suspect these [Trump case verdicts] will hold up in court as well as Trump’s legal arguments for the 2020 election."

ALL the legal minds I cited say the opposite, that these cases against Trump are so egregiously unfair and unconstitutional, that they will inevitably be overturned, once they rise to appeals courts outside he deeply leftist-corrupt New York court system.
Why do you love OBVIOUS corrupt unfair rulings so much, M E M?


3) "And it’s pretty apparent what you want with the justice system WB."

No, absolutely untrue. I want the justice system to return tto the fair and impartial standard that existed before the Obama- Biden years, a which point all these federal agencies were politically weaponized.

YOU want DOJ and FBI and IRS to be weapons for the Democrats to persecute and torment any dissenters, whether Republican, Independent, or even Democrat: Rod Balagoyovich, NY city mayor Eric Adams, Tulsi Gabbard, Rudy Giuliani, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. ANYONE who dares to step outside the Democrat-Bolshevik party line.
Even the case of Sen. Robert Menendez, where he has been blatantly corrupt for a long time, the Democrat-Bolshevik machine protected him for years, and only unleashed the DOJ and FBI to prosecute him when he stepped outside the party line and criticized Biden's open-border policy.

Likewise Eric Adams.

Putting Tulsi Gabbard under national security risk investigation, and on a no-fly list.
Trump and Republicans want to return to equal and impartial justice. In the age of Democrat-Bolshevism, I don't know if that genie can ever be put back in the bottle.



4) "You have many many pages of angry crazed rants telling everyone what you crave. It’s not justice."

And by "crazed rants", you mean cited and sourced facts, from the most respected legal minds (Dershowitz, Turley) and respected and award winning investigative journalists of our time (Glenn Greenwald, Lara Logan, Matt Taibbi, Sheryl Attkisson, John Solomon, Mollie Hemingway, Alex Berenson, etc.) . Who are truly independent journalists, and willing to risk heir careers to report and expose the truth.

What YOU advocate is not justice. What I advocate, actually IS justice !!!!!

Cited and sourced.

Your arguments, M E M are just baseless insults and slanders, such as "Trump is a baby", and "Trump is Hitler" and the completely baseless "Trump is a threat to democracy", that your Democrat-Bolshevik party fronts as a narrative, with absolutely nothing to back it up.

Even as YOUR OWN PARTY arrests and intimidates journalists like James Rosen.
And tries to shut down and de-platform whole news organizations, as Obama did with Fox News.
As Biden further attempted against One America News, and Newsmax.

Even as YOUR PARTY has put thousands in jail in the last 8 years.
1,500 overwhelmingly peaceful January 6th protesters.
Hundreds more peaceful pro-life activists, peaceful parents arrested for just speaking out against "woke" indoctrination in schools of their children.

YOUR PARTY using FBI to arrest and maliciously prosecute/bankrupt at least a dozen Trump cabinet officials.

All these groups of conservative dissenters and leaders, arrested in completely unnecessary FBI show arrests, in 6 AM raids a gunpoint (when FBI could have just been called by FBI and asked to appear at an appointed time with a lawyer).
YOURS is the Democrat-Bolshevik party that craves injustice, weaponization of federal agencies, denial of Constitutional rights, and inhuman treatment of its imprisoned political opponents, held in dirty prison conditions and without court trial or conviction, some beaten in their cells, done precisely to humiliate and torment them, as some kind of vindictive hate-filled political payback.
YOU PROJECT ON ME and other Trump supporters EXACTLY, and I mean EXACTLY what your party has done with political power for at least the last 16 years since 2009.
he difference is, your side actually wants to do these things, but YOUR SIDE REALLY DOES. and HAS, for 16 years.
It's called projection.

And that is why it terrifies me, the prospect that your party could EVER have federal power again.
And your party has doubled, tripled, quadrupled down on the same vindictive leftist radicalism at every turn, even since Trump was elected in November. The Democrat-Bolsheviks have no repentance, no self-awareness of their enormously unpopular rejection by voters of their power-grabs, but elected Democrats and their zealotts in the FBI and media continue to make it clear they would still do all the same Bolshevik things, and things even more radical, if these Democrats ever gain power again.

But yeah, I "don't want justice", yeah, right. rolleyes
Says the Bolshevik foot soldier.


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You continue to illustrate my point WB. Btw I’ve seen you dismiss and attack life long republicans elected officials and conservative judges because they don’t bend the knee to Trump. I’ve seen you attack law enforcement for publicly talking about the injuries they received on Jan 6. You have no principle other than whatever serves Trump. You’re not fooling anyone about wanting justice. The next 2 years will be rough for this country but I see America begin correcting course in the midterms.

As for Dershowiz and Turley, I haven’t really heard much from Alan after the Epstein stuff and his whole affair with sighning onto some really bad legal argument and then trying to argue he shouldn’t be held accountable.
Turley frames his writing that I’ve seen in such a way it’s pretty obvious that he isn’t a democrat. He’s sort of like a mob boss lawyer. He makes the best legal defense he can for his guy and or avoids commenting to much that will displease his maga audience like yourself.


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One of the 1,500 arrested because of January 6th, who was pardoned by rump on his 2nd day.

PARDONED JANUARY 6th "RIOTER" REVEALS ALL:
"2 MINUTES IN THE CAPITOL LEFT ME FACING A YEAR IN JAIL"


She casually followed the crowd peacefully inside the Capittol, where she touched a table, and FBI wanted to throw a 5" 1' 21 year old (on Jan 6th, now age 24) in jail.
And Biden's FBI waited 3 years to arrest her, on her 2nd day out of town on a vacation.
Once again, confroned by 7 armed FBI agents, when given how minor the accusation, they could have just called her o come in.

And once again, compare that to the two BLM lawyers in New York City, who threw a Molotov cocktail at 2 police officers in a police car, with the clear intent to burn them alive. But in contrast... no prosecution, no need for hem to even hire a lawyer, the two were just set free, for a serious crime.
But the 5"1' girl who did nothing would have been prosecuted, if not for Donald Trump's pardon 5 days ago.

And no doubt, virtually all of the 1,500 arrested have similar stories of overkill FBI arrests and prosecutions.

American Greatness reporter Julie Kelly, interviewed today on Newsmax, who wrote a book about the FBI orchestration and weaponization of January 6th to make mass arrests, said the stories coming out over the next few months will sicken people as they become known. This one already has.

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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
You continue to illustrate my point WB. Btw I’ve seen you dismiss and attack life long republicans elected officials and conservative judges because they don’t bend the knee to Trump. I’ve seen you attack law enforcement for publicly talking about the injuries they received on Jan 6. You have no principle other than whatever serves Trump. You’re not fooling anyone about wanting justice. The next 2 years will be rough for this country but I see America begin correcting course in the midterms.

As for Dershowiz and Turley, I haven’t really heard much from Alan after the Epstein stuff and his whole affair with signing onto some really bad legal argument and then trying to argue he shouldn’t be held accountable.
Turley frames his writing that I’ve seen in such a way it’s pretty obvious that he isn’t a democrat. He’s sort of like a mob boss lawyer. He makes the best legal defense he can for his guy and or avoids commenting to much that will displease his maga audience like yourself.


I reject your argument that I "dismiss and attack lifelong Republicans / elected officials /judges" just because they "don't bend the knee to Trump."
I've been CRYSTAL clear in my posts why based on THE FACTS I condemned their actions (Mike Pence, John Roberts, Mich McConnell, Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger, Susan Collins, and low-level self-promoters in Trump's first term who used betraying Trump to get high-paying posittions on shows like The View) . I condemned them because the law was on Trump's side, and it was their legal duty to stand by Trump because he was right, not because I just inconsistently bashed them for just not blindly supporting Trump. (I would cite more specific examples, but you just made a sweeping statement without ANY examples, so unless you can first cite factual examples, I won't bother responding with more examples. And really, I'm just speculaing who you might mean, because you gave absolutely no cited examples or facts to back your allegaions.)

As for my "attack law enforcement for publicly talking about the injuries they received on Jan 6", (again, no cited examples by you), I NEVER did that.

I specifically excoriated 4 officers who testified before the January 6th committee for acting as Democrat agents, and not aas detached witness cops. In Jan 6th hearings, they continuously made incendiary partisan remarks and read from script CLEARLY WRIEN FOR THEM BY SOMEONE ELSE, that was CLEARLY not in their own words, and was laughably in partisan words that THEY COULD NO EVEN PRONOUNCE READING THE SCRIPT.

They were NOT officers testifying in their own words what they observed on January 6th, they were behaving as props for the Democrat party's false narrative.
In the months BEFORE their testimony, and in their testimony that they clumsily and inarticulately read from someone else's script THAT DAY in the Jan 6h hearings, they were acting as Democrat party agents, NOT as police officers.

And several articles busted them on their lefist/woke attacks BEFORE January 6th on social media, and in media interviews during and after, before the Jan 6th committee hearing.
Harry Dunn repeatedly posted online comments about hating Trump, Trump is a racist, etc., etc. making pro Black Lives Matter comments online, posting photos of himself in a Black Lives Matter t-shirt, and attending BLM rallies.

Michaal Fanone called the Republican paarty (not just Trump) "a cancer that need to be carved out".
And THEN he quit his job as a DC Metro officer and became a paid venomous consultant for CNN.


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You have no principle other than whatever serves Trump. You’re not fooling anyone about wanting justice. The next 2 years will be rough for this country but I see America begin correcting course in the midterms.

Total BS on your part.
I've citied the legal arguments of Dershowitz and Turley and Gregg Jarrett, of Matt Taibbi, and many other highly respected legal opinions and journalists.

The lack of principle is on YOUR side, a Democrat-Bolshevik party that puts innocent men and women in jail. That goes AFTER LAWYERS (the 65 project) to bankrupt and disbar lawyers, to intimidate them,
That if lawyers represent Trump or Guiliani, if they contest a blatantly unfair Nov 2020 election, JUST LEGALLY CHALLENGE IT IN COURT TO CONFIRM OR DISPROVE THE FACTS, theywill be intimidated and punished, will be fired from their job, they will be pursued with lawfare, lose their law license, lose their years-held Harvard teaching position (i.e., Rep. Elise Stefanik) and be bankrupted.
The Democra-Bolshevikss mke it so anyone they don't like, such as Trump or Giuliani or anyone indicted wih them, MANY lawyers won't take heir cases, because hey are afraid o, afraaid of being disbarred snd bankrupted by malicious Democrat lawsuits. For fear, they jus won't take the case !
And that's not right. As Dershowitz has said, as a TRUE liberal, is that even a guilty defendant is entitled to defense, the best challenge and cross examination of the evidence, and the best and fairest sentence a lawyer can negotiate for a defendant. And if lawyers are afraid to even represent Trump or Giuliani out of fear of being maliciously bankrupted or disbarred out of pue intimidation, how can Trump, Guiliani, or any defendant, even get a fair trial ?


The Bolshevik way : terror, intimidaion, violence, the abuse of state power as a weapon.
That is not just an insult, M E M, your party LITERALLY embraces all these Democrat-Bolshevik tactics, and then you somehow flip it around and act like it's your Republican opposittion (or dissentting Democrats, like Robert F. Kennedy Jr, Tulsi Gabbard, Alan Dershowitz, Jonathan Truley, Lara Logan, Brandon Straka, Andy Ngo and other current or former Democrats who have walked away from your party in disgust because of your party's overtly Marxist Bolshevik tacics.

As I've cited repeatedly, the Cintons, the Obamas and many leftists who work under them , OPENLY WORSHIP the Bolsheviks, Mao Tse Tung, Fidel Casro, Che Gueverra, Hugo Chaves and successor Meduro, Saul Alinsky. And OPENLY endorse and emulate their lawless Marxist political tactics.
FACT.

I've cited the videotaped and written quotes of them repeatedly.over multiple topics, for YEARS here.
It is YOUR SIDE that has no ethics and will use any vicious tactics to win. It is Trump who has withstood a test of Kafka-esque lawfare, arrests, and prosecutions before unfair prosecutors, judges and juries.
It is Trump and those around him who have endured slander, lawfare and imprisonment for make-believe crimes (Paul Manafort, Roger Stone, Peter Navarro, Steve Bannon, Trump himself, etc) .
And when that lawfare and imprisonment failed to intimidate enough to stop Trump, elements in the deep state FBI and Secret Service have AT LEAST TWICE allowed (if no orchestrated) very close assassination attempts on Trump. (and possibly more attempts not fully disclosed, such as by he Iranians and other groups.)

In Butler, PA, Trump came very close to being eliminated like JFK, MLK, or RFK, the Deep State/ globalists almost successful in silencing forever Trump and a larger movement, to prevent a move by Trump for national sovereignty and U.S. national protection from globalism and global dependence, to prevent globalists from econoically reigning us into submission. To prevent a move by Trump to restore Constitutional rights and protections, and restoring of Constitutional balance of powers)
Weirdly enough, Thomas Michael Crooks' father, instead of cooperating and giving all he could to investigators, went silent and just lawyered up. And the lawyer he chose was the same CIA-connected law office as Alexander Vindman used in the Trump whistleblower impeachment hearings.
Also very odd, Ryan Routh, an apparen roofer with very little income that can be tracked, traveled as a mercenary all over the world, easily travelling in and out of he most radical muslim counries in the world, and bringing them to Ukraine to fight as mercenaries on the Ukrainian side. To move through countries like that without a problem, someone would need some very high level federal connections with CIA and/or State Department, and maybe FBI. And he had a girlfriend that with all the Secret Service and FBI's investigative resources, no one can identify or locate a trace of. You'd almost think she was... Ryan Routh's CIA liason or case handler? And that maybe Routh was contracted by CIA to assassinate Trump, and the location where Trump would be that day was given to Routh by CIA, or some partner federal agency closely observing Trump's daily movements. Both of these shooting attempts reek of CIA, FBI and/or other federal agencies. Things that a random gunman just couldn't do or know, to even be there

Lawfare against Trump, weaponization of the courts against him, and failing in that, now an escalation to assassination attempts on Trump, to silence him forever and prevent him from dismantling a decades-evolving expanding corrupt Deep State. Right before their planned socialist authoritarian lockdown.
BLM and Antifa riots and revoluion nationwide(culminating in 2020), tearing down U.S. monuments and history, while exalting socialism as more fair, a better system.
Related destruction of patriotism and our history through leftist teachers and woke indoctrination in schools.
87,000 new IRS agents to furher harass, intimidate and cripple Republican donors and grassroots support.
Lockdown and censorship of social media.
Inundating and further crippling the country with illegal immigrants, drug cartels, crime, and further lawlessness and intimidaion. Cloward and Piven strategy: overwhelm the system and amid the panic and chaos distracting the public, collapse the system and replace it with a Marxist authoritarian lockdown government. And declare the constitutional patriots trying to save the Republic as the TRUE dangerous insurrectionists undermining Democracy, to rationalize your authoritarian lockdown as a necessary measure to SAVE democracy, as you are actually the ones CRUSHING Democracy.
Termed "Cultural Marxism"
Or "Active Measures".
Or "Cloward-Piven strategy".
Or as former Obama official and CNN hos Van Jones terms it : "Top down, bottom up, inside out." Confuse the people with both Marxist revolution within such as Soros-funded government officials, with fake "grass roots" NGO's "helping" from outside the country,(actually further destroying and dividing) and Soross-funded revolutionary Marxist groups like Black Lives Matter, Antifa, and the Open Borders movement. Working from all sides to confuse and overwhelm the public.

All slighly variant Marxist written plans developed in different parts of the world, as ways to de-stabilize and replace a formerly stable Constitutional republic.
What George Soros has orchestrated and perfected over the last 30 years in more than a dozen former Soviet and Eastern Bloc countries.

Trump's aides and cabinet officials are (or in many cases prosecuted, WERE) rich men who could have just walked away from Trump, and away from fighting the corrupt Deep State system, as Mike Pence and Mitch McConnell , Lisa Murkowski, John Roberts and other Republicans of the Deep State have, to keep their popularity, their power, their blood money, and their favors among the corrupt elite.
But these Trump officials have endured abuse and risked everything, to do what is right, to save the country from the Deep State of the Democrat-Bolsheviks, and of the sellout RINO Republican wing, who take the Lefts's money for both power and a seat at the table among the globalist elite . These RINO Republicans are he ones who give lip service to securing the border, or stopping the Democrats from adding 87,000 new IRS agents. But then at the last minute "cross over" in "bi-partisanship" and give Democrats the votes they need to pass radical nation-destroying legislation. The John Cornyns, the Lisa Murkowskis, the Mitch McConnells, the Mitt Romneys, the Susan Collins's, the Angus Kings, the John McCains, the Joe Manchins, the Lindsey Grahams, and many more Republicans and so-called moderates, who always condemn legislation in a show of opposition, then turn out to becone of the deciding votes in favor of what they previously condemned.
Taking a bribe to do it?
Blackmail?
Hidden leftist ideology?
Intimidation?
I think different ones cave in for different reasons, but regardless of the reason, they sell us out. With the recent surveillance through FISA warrants of the entire Trump campaign, and then the entire Trump White House for its first 6 months. Some can be bribed, and beyond that, many who can't be bribed can then be blackmailed. Going back to "Filegate" during he Clinton adminisrtation. And he Democrats are twice as evil, twice as crazy now. And needless to say the James Comeys, the Andrew McCabes, the Peter Strzoks, he Bill Priestaps and Kevin Clinesmiths. OBVIOUS corruption, and playing God with he power they have, as Democrat zealots who have hundreds of texts, and many others deleted we can't read, made abundantly clear they are fanaics who will do anything to rig a win for the Democrat-Bolshevik Party.

CLEARLY, you are utterly immune to logic and facts.
But I keep citing the facts.


And Alan Dershowitz and Jonahan Turley comment pretty much EVERY DAY on multiple programs on Fox News, Newsmax, FBN, and probably on CNN and other liberal networks where they are more likely to be cut off, shouted over, or just censored and edited out. But they make the effort regardless. The illegal FISA surveillance, the lawfare to rig the 2020 and 2024 elections, the faked letter from 51 intelligence officials (their security clearances now revoked by Trump on his 2nd or 3rd day), the Hunter Biden laptop contents, buried for a year by tagens of the Democrat-Bolshevik FBI, censorship that blocked information about the Biden laptop during the 2020 election to rig the 2020 election for Biden (a k a, the "Twitter files").

On and on, the Deep State abuses of federal agency power .

When Dershowitz and Turley were on CNN and Charlie Rose (circa 2003-2008), I mostly didn't agree with them on issues like the Patriot Act, or like interrogation or treatment of Al Qaida prisoners, but I still would listen to them, and their perspective of the law on those issues. You should do the same, M E M.
And there was a post I made about he Patriot Act 20 years ago, that even if government invade my freedoms while looking for info to protect ou naional security, my stated opinion then was I have nothing to hide.

Well... now I've seen how rule of law has eroded in the U.S., and a state, even the UNITED STATES (under people like Obama, Biden, Comey, McCabe, Strzok and Clinesmih) can use that trust in government to use people's private info to target political groups they don't like (such as religious conservatives, or pro-life activists, or even dissenting Democrats they don't like, a leader like Trump who is outperforming the Democrat-Bolshevik candidate in a coming eleciton, surveila nd target an entire Trump administration to eliminate them, or even target everyone in an entire political party.

And while you brainwash yourself, ignoring he facts, to act like TRUMP and his supporters are the ones in the wrong, I've cited the Democrat party and Democrat-media lies and false narratives over and ove, that show your side is authoritarian and dangerous, and ours (The Trump wing) is trying to restore checks and balances and pull us away from the path to authoritarianism.
My fear is that when the Trump movement eventually leaves and the pendulum swings in 4 or 8 or 12 years, your side will immediately re-politicize every branch of government the way Obama and Biden already have, and go even more authoritaria- Bolshevik.


I believe very firmly that the current fanaticism of your side makes it urgent that they never again regain power. Just look at the maniac comments by Democrats (boh elected Democras, and in the news media) just since the election.
They've learned nothing, they're just as crazy. advocating EVEN MORE lawfare, EVEN MORE open borders, EVEN MORE protection of criminals, and especially, of criminal Democrat leaders, even the criminals in FBI, DOJ, the januaary 6th committee who shredded heir own evidence (obviously because i was falsified and incriminated them) and in he Obama White House that TARGETED RUMP AND HIS SPPORTERS, but NOW wants to be prtected from PROSECUTION FOR THOSE CRIMES Falsified informaion submitted to a judge, illegal FISA warrants, Obstrucing justice. Leaking classified FBI documents. Malicious prosecution.
ACTUAL CRIMES, CLEAR UNDENIABLE CRIMES.

But now hey want blanket pardons for crimes which they'e never even been indicted for !! Has that ever been done before?!?
Does that not give you ANY PAUSE, M E M?
No, stupid question, of course it doesn't. If your party brought men in cages like ISIS and slit the throats of Republicans on the beach and beheaded them, without evidence, without trial, you'd still find a way to rationalize and endorse it, just because your party says it's okay.

Imprisoning Trump on made up fake charges in "novel cases", that NO ONE ELSE BEFORE OR SINCE will ever be prosecuted for, is one step toward that.



I mentioned years ago how former Bill Clinton secretary Robert Reich fantasized about, circa mid-2020 about having televised trials where former Trump officials would be forced to publicly confess their crimes to the nation. That is straight out of Stalin, Mao, or Orwell. And you are okay with that.

Or the PBS executive attorney who fantasized about using DHS to take away Republicans' children, and give them to state-appointed liberal-leftist foster parents, to be raised and indoctrinated in the "right" way of thinking. And you apparently have no problem with that.

Or the many, MANY Democrat campaign officials secretly video-interviewed by Project Veritas, or similar interviews of employees or executives of Google, Twiitter and Facebook, how hey censor, delete accounts, shadow-ban or otherwise use algorithms to weed out and silence all conservative opinion and factual aritcles that disprove the liberal narrative . And how intensely they hate Republicans and fantasize about killing them or putting them in Gulags, or "re-educaion centers". .
Or Disney cartoon and movie production people, plotting to put gay-trans messaging in kids' entertainment.

Or public school teachers, videos they themselves posted, found and re-posted on the conservative "Libs of Tik Tok" blog, of purple-haired trans justice warrior teachers who feel their holy mission is to use their position to censor and eliminate all Republican/conservative thought, to indoctrinate and push a liberal left ideas in their classrooms. Openly gloating that hrough indoctrination, or msybe also seduction: "Well take away your children."

"Liquidate them, and by liquidate I mean kill" said one FBI undercover agent who quoted what Weather Underground Marxist leaders said to him, as one of their Weather Underground fellow revolutionaries. William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrne.
And Barack Obama was a close associate of William Ayers for many years. Obama's first political fundraiser was in Ayers' home, and political introductions and connections were provided by William Ayers. For many years Obama and Ayers would travel on joint book-signing tours to cities across he country.

And thatWeaher Underground "liquidattion" menttaliy is no different from what New York Times reporters (Jennifer Rubin), former Clinton officials (Robert Reich), Bernie Sanders campaign officials and grassroots volunteers ALL advocate.
Rubin said: "We have o destroy the Republican party so completely it can never come back."
Bernie Sanders election staffers and volunteers said they wanted to either just slaughter Republicans if they won, or alternately just lock hem up in "re-programming camps" for torture or indoctination.
All previously posted here, in their own self-incriminating written or videotaped exact words.

And the fact that you don't dispute or challenge these QUOTED remarks as something disturbing and wrong, tells me you're totally on board with whatever your Bolshevik party does.
Up to and including weaponization of government, imprisonment, torture, and genocide.
In your years-long acceptance here of the craziest ideological and authoritarian things your party does or plans to do, well... hey, no problem.


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    Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.

    EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.
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