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what if the DCU continued, as if there was no crisis? with the multiple earths, characters, personalities, etc. how different would things be in the dcu, now? and in what way?
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If you think about it if the Crisis didn't happen 17 years ago the current DCU might end up looking like Kingdom Come. Personally I miss the multiverse.The DCU seemsto have finally "settled" into being one single Earth...but i think a lot of these characters would be more successful and exciting to read if they were in thier own elements free and clear of what's going on in a "shared universe"...i.e. an Earth-1 with the JLA,Earth-2 with the JSA,an Earth-Charlton etc.etc...
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a lot of batman-critics always find it difficult to believe a character as "realistically" portrayed as often as batman is, can exist in the same world (and only a few driving hours away) from the world of superman, with flying alien heroes, and a city controlled (and rebuilt) by a super living computer. im sure it drove the bat-writers nuts, when grant morrison indicated that batman has an earth-to-moon teleporter in his batcave, and yet, can never seem to get to places in gotham fast enough.
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I don't know, but most probably, I wouldn't be reading ANY DC comic...
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Id bet we would have had yet another Earth with a completely revised set of heros.....much like we do today only not coexisting with the elder JSA and an elder JLA.......
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<=== Ready for ANOTHER Crisis.
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quote:
Originally posted by KrazyXXXDJ:
Ready for ANOTHER Crisis.
for what to happen?
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While it's way out there and would never happen, a complete reboot! Start from scratch with every character, establish identities and set the timeline in concrete....bring back dead heroes that weren't working some five/ten years ago that might work today..... No, not really, it would be a bitch to completely disregard every DC comic you've collected for the past #### years. All this Crisis/Zero Hour/Hypertime/Kingdom Come/The Kingdom bs is a mess.
Crisis to make one solid universe. Zero Hour to set the timeline straight. Now we have hypertime, that allows for all the clutter they tried to straighten out to come right back in? It feels like with every event they're saying "Look, we messed up, so it's gonna be this way now. Deal!" Trying to set a specific year on a comic book event (Superman arriving, Wonder Woman being created, etc)is really bad idea, and it seems the lines keep moving up. Your character starts to show his age and often that doesn't coincide with what we know. If they were 30 five years ago...and 31 today, but still presented with the dated real world?
Wouldn't say, a Titan from an alternate timeline exist in a seperate universe? If they are coming to year 2002 - wouldn't they be coming from somewhere established? So that one universe theory is out, right? My head hurts. 
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dc's biggest continuity flaw, in my opinion, is how dick grayson aged 15 years while batman aged 2 or 3. and yet, neither of them really notice that. ...whoops! yer right, all the "crisis-like" events just 'fix' things only to screw up new things. there's no way you could win. but... honestly... i kinda liked where you were going in your first paragraph! maybe set up an "ultimate dc" universe, and start evreything a new (but continue to pump out existing books, so as not to remove old fans). might be fun. and its certainly worked for marvel!
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As much as I love DC, I will be out of comics at the next crisis type story, I will not begin once more to read the story. I'd rather would like to think that Kingdom Come was the end of the known characters, and most probably, I will be hunting down some back issues of series I don't collect right now.
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but thats just part of it! not to destroy the existing universe... just create a new one for those who want it (and continue the "normal" one, as is, without reprecussions). might be fun
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Has Marvel ever had a crisis as such? What do they do to keep all the alternate universe/timelife straight? I saw that one instance where the universe disappeared and came up where Magneto was the leader and Apoc was the big bad, but it went back to norm...almost. They didn't seem to have much knowledge of it.
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From what I've noticed, whenever Marvel comes up with something that doesn't necessarily fit in their continuity (i.e. Quasar), they simply ignore it, never bring it up again, and hope the fans don't ask questions. As I understand it, it's worked pretty well. For example (for those of you who haven't read Daredevil: Visionaries by Kevin Smith, stop here - SPOILERS AHEAD!) Kevin Smith killed a lot of people during his run on Daredevil, like Karen Page and Mysterio. However, I know for a fact that Mysterio, even after his death, reappeared in the pages of Spider-Man without any rhyme or reason. Did people notice? I did. Did Marvel try to fix it by making him someone totally different? No. They just ignored it and hoped it would go away...
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