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The mild-Vertigo-wanna-be Marvel Knights came out with an adultish Captain America bout 7 months or so ago

I personally like the comic.

How bout ya'll.........have you read it or is it filed under "who gives a crap"

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Ok, first of all, I don't get the concept that Marvel Knights is related in any way, shape or form to Vertigo. Marvel Knights is a superhero imprint. Vertigo isn't.

The new Captain America series. Damn good! But I don't care for Cassaday's replacement on art.

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Are we talking about Neiber's Captain America, or has the new writer come on board?

Personally, I couldn't stand JNR's scripting. Loved Cassaday's art, though.

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Originally posted by Grimm:
[QB]Ok, first of all, I don't get the concept that Marvel Knights is related in any way, shape or form to Vertigo. Marvel Knights is a superhero imprint. Vertigo isn't. QB]

I said mild Vertigo esque............I just mean its attempt at being more dark....

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"mild Vertigo wanna be" [izzat so?]

Dark does not necessarily equal Vertigo or Vertigo like. And there are degrees of darkness. I don't see the current Captain America run as being dark at all. I see it as relevant for the time. Something the character hasn't had since the forties. From the sixties until now he's always been characterized as "the guy lost in time trying to catch up to this modern world".

The mandate of Marvel Knights originally was to take second and third tier Marvel characters and make them interesting again. Captain America eventually fell into this mandate. Vertigo, is a completely separate imprint which happens to share some characters with the DC Universe. Vertigo deals mainly in creater-owned books which span genres other than superhero. The only Marvel imprint which I would compare to Vertigo would be Epic, which pre-dated Vertigo by at least a decade. . .

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I stand corrected........

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What about Marvel MAX? It's like lowbrow Vertigo.

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Vertigo wasn't created specifically for superheroes, but it did have them, with Animalman, Doom Patrol, Sandman and Swamp Thing.

MAX and, to a lesser extent, Marvel Knights, were created to give a darker, more mature look at it's own characters. So was Vertigo, originally, DC just had a wider variety of characters.

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Max and Marvel Knights sounds like a version of Wildstorm to me.

Marvel has no equivalent of Vertigo, having failed with its "gothic" line of books by Clive Barker a few years back, cancelled Epic, and otherwise putting all of its eggs into the superhero basket.

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No one said "equivalent", just something somewhat similar.

Wildstorm is just a part of the old Image universe, it's nothing like Marvel Knights or MAX.


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