bw7, I suspect that part of my enjoyment of the title was my almost total lack of knowledge of the regular series. I was able to approach it with a newcomer's perpective.

On the flag and patriotism issue, I think if it had been anyone else save Cap, it would have jarred me too. But's he's a product of the 1940s cast into the next century, not unlike the new patriotism of the neo-cons in the current administration. He'll be interesting to watch, because I wonder just how far he'll go in the name of patriotism.

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Have you seen Dangerous Liasons? Malkovich's character was manipulative, grubby and without any merit (until the end). The character was still astonishingly enjoyable to watch.

What about Rorshcach? A brutal psychotic murderer. Yet his characerisation was fascinating.

Well, I wasn't asking if you found the characterization interesting. I was asking if he bothered you.

The motivations of the above were well explained/described/illustrated, and presented in a thought-provoking manner. I didn't find this to be the case with Pym.

Pym is just a nasty piece of work, but even then, he demonstrated intense remorse for his actions. That's more characterisation than you'd get in the JLA. If you stuck him in the regular Marvel continuity he'd be a "villain". Instead, he's a "hero". Really, he's neither, just as most people are neither.

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I detest Pym above all the rest
Right, so, he bothers you(in that sense), right?

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He's hardly a role model, but the book isn't about role models. Its about a selection of humanity which has superpowers.
I wouldn't use the word "humanity" in any description of this book, for I believe it is far from it.

I disagree. The world isn't composed of the noble and the great. Its a mixed of ratbags and rogues. That's what we've got here.