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Originally posted by r3x29yz4a:
It's funny how Birthright is being praised by a minority of readers as a return of the Silver Age Supes, when it's really little more than a mixture of Smallville and Man of Steel.
That's why I didn't like it. It was just another way of making Smallville continuity for Supes. Marvel is screwing up their books the same way. Magneto back from the dead and Wolverine drawn to look more like Hugh Jackman just to tie into the movies.

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Originally posted by King Krypton:
Until JJ Abrams sweet-talked Harry Knowles into reversing his stance on the script. That pretty much shut down the protests. I've lost count of how many times I've seen people come to that script's defense since then.

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and have lambasted the constant attempts at getting teen heart-throbs into the lead role.
Funny. At some Superman movie sites (like Superman CINEMA, for instance), Kutcher was and still is a popular choice for the part.
I've talked to plenty of Supes fans on other boards and in person. I've not seen anyone defend the new Superman script. The closest I've seen to any accepting of the new project or Kutcher as Supes is an "I'll wait and see." I admit that I don't go to the DC boards because most of the people and the conversations there never interested me, so I don't know, or care, what people there are saying. But, for the most part, I've seen people herald this unproduced movie as the nail in the coffin of the Superman movie franchise much as Batman & Robin was for Bats.

And Knowles never reversed his view on the script. He simply stated that he understood that Abrams, after talking with him, had a love for Superman and was just trying to do something big and new. He still was against many of the ideas in it. It just heightened the things that he originally loved about the script (such as the Superman being torn between who to save when several disasters were happening simultaneously).

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Originally posted by King Krypton:
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Fans have kept that shitty movie from getting made so far.
More like WB incompetence has been keeping that film from not happening. The fans' impact on the project is negligible as far as I can see.
It was the internet backlash after Knowles report that made the execs. at Warner Bros. to release a statement saying that that wasn't the movie that was going to be filmed. They had the same problems with the script that the fans did (i.e. Krypton not blowing up and Lex being a Kryptonian), so it was going to be rewritten. In other words, they were buying time for another script to be made because it was evident that the current one would just piss fans off and keep them out of the theatres.

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Originally posted by King Krypton:
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King, you never cease to amaze me. Birthright didn't sell. You can't blame people for not liking it.
They never even gave it a fair chance. They skinned it alive from the go-get for not being a slavish, note-for-note Xerox of John Byrne's work as soon as the perview pages hit. The book was doomed from the start simply because it wasn't the same old thing we've been getting since 1986. (Trinity suffered the exact same fate, and as with Birthright, it was unjustified.)

And if you even bothered to read my first post, I made it clear that DC's refusal to support the book is half the reason why it failed. But the selfishness and egomania of the "fans" is the other half of the reason it bombed. The "kneel before 1986" mantra strangled it in the cradle. It never ceases to amaze me how John Byrne could do whatever he wanted and get away with it, but that nobody else can do the same thing. Where's the fairness in that?
DC didn't hype The Authority too much, and it became a huge hit. Word of mouth helps sell books that are good. And maybe readers didn't want to pay the money for the book. With a lot of prestige format comics coming out lately, money amoung comic buyers is getting thinner and thinner. With Superman's books in decay, people may not have been willing to shell out the cash for it.

Maybe most readers weren't interested in the story itself. I know I wasn't. And not because it wasn't sticking to Byrne's origin 100%. I didn't like it because it wasn't a progression. If you're going to retell Superman's origins, make it fresh and new, which is what Byrne did. Birthright didn't move ahead. It went backwards. I didn't find anything new or compelling about it. It was just there to bring the Silver Ageiness back to the origin and retread some of Byrne's material. Give me something else and not the same shit over and over again.