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...referring to Pov, of course!
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And my all time favorite ....
indignata sub umbra.
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Originally posted by Thriftshop Debutante:
Lorem ipsum dolor!
Help me out here, Thrifty One - your whips are sad??
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FC et TD, estis pulchrae feminae!
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Originally posted by Beardguy57:
Science, History, Comics, 1/18 die cast cars, Science fiction, my 4 Siamese cats, spirituality, and other things.
4 Siamese cats! You lucky dog! Are they named after Jefferson Airplane?
I think the next additions to my menagerie will be Klordny and Frunt.
Beardy and Cramer: I absolutely ADORE Siamese cats! My beautiful little choclate-point died 9 months ago and I still miss her so bad.
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Originally posted by Senor Widebottom:
It has come to my attention that some posters here are under the mistaken impression that I, Señor Widebottom, am a homosexual.
I would like to state clearly:
I ONLY FUCK CLOWNS !
Noooooooooooooo! Say it ain't so, Senor!
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Originally posted by Eryk Davis Ester:
FC et TD, estis pulchrae feminae!
Why you dulcedo maximus, you!
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Originally posted by Princess Crujectra:
Taking the piss... I love them crazy Brits. They have the cutest way of talking. Like being "knackered". I think my mother might be "knick-knackered", but I'm not certain ![[wink]](images/icons/wink.gif)
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Hey, more from The Straight Dope - the website (www.straightdope.com) this time!
Dear Cecil:
Cecil, just what the heck does the Latin phrase that starts lorem ipsum mean? I have seen this used as "filler text" for years and have always wondered what it meant. Today I had finally had enough, so I cranked up my favorite search engine and fed it this phrase. You can imagine what I got back--thousands of Web pages in various stages of construction. And so I turn to you. --Joe Nicholas, via the Internet
Dear Joe:
This one is deep. Remember etaoin shrdlu? (Maybe you don't. Never mind, a bulletin on the subject is forthcoming.) Remember the Illuminati and fnord? Lorem ipsum is the same deal--one of those inscrutable phrases that just keeps turning up. Surely it means something. Surely it's invested with, you know, mysto power. Lorem ipsum, my children. So mote it be.
Before we go any further I'd better explain what we're talking about. Lorem ipsum is the beginning of a pseudo-Latin passage commonly used as placeholder text when a graphic designer dummies up a page layout. It's intended to show how the type will look before the copy is available. I say pseudo-Latin because though the passage contains recognizable Latin words, they don't seem to add up to anything, and some are just jabberwocky--there's no Latin word lorem, for one thing. Lorem ipsum is only the beginning, by the way. The text continues lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur, adipisci velit, etc.
In the graphic design business, nonsense filler like this is known, somewhat incongruously, as "greeking," presumably because "it's Greek to me." It was available for many years on adhesive sheets in different sizes and typefaces from a company called Letraset. In pre-desktop-publishing days, a designer would cut the stuff out with an X-acto knife and stick it on the page. When computers came along, Aldus included lorem ipsum in its PageMaker publishing software, and you now see it wherever designers are at work, including all over the Web.
A few years ago someone wrote to Before & After, a desktop publishing magazine (www.pagelab.com), asking what lorem ipsum meant. "It's not Latin, though it looks like it, and it actually says nothing," the editors replied. "Its 'words' loosely approximate the frequency with which letters occur in English, which is why at a glance it looks pretty real."
Not exactly. ("Lorem oopsum," the abashed B&A editors wrote.) Turns out the passage doesn't just look like real Latin, it is real (although slightly scrambled), and from a famous source. This news came from Richard McClintock, a Latin professor turned publications director at Hampden-Sydney College in Virginia. Curious about what the words meant, McClintock had looked up one of the more obscure ones, consectetur, in a Latin dictionary. Going through the cites of the word in classical literature, he found one that looked familiar. Aha! Lorem ipsum was part of a passage from Cicero, specifically De finibus bonorum et malorum, a treatise on the theory of ethics written in 45 BC. The original reads, Neque porro quisquam est qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet, consectetur, adipisci velit . . . ("There is no one who loves pain itself, who seeks after it and wants to have it, simply because it is pain . . .").
McClintock recalled having seen lorem ipsum in a book of early metal type samples, which commonly used extracts from the classics. "What I find remarkable," he told B&A, "is that this text has been the industry's standard dummy text ever since some printer in the 1500s took a galley of type and scrambled it to make a type specimen book; it has survived not only four centuries of letter-by-letter resetting but even the leap into electronic typesetting, essentially unchanged." So much for the transitory nature of content in the information age.
Just one problem. When I spoke to McClintock recently, he said he'd been unable to locate the old type sample in which he thought he'd seen lorem ipsum. The earliest he could definitely trace back the passage was Letraset press-type sheets, which dated back only a few decades. But come on, you think graphic arts supply houses were hiring classics scholars in the 1960s? Well, maybe they were. But it's easier to believe that someone at Letraset simply copied the text from an old hot-type source. We're now faced with the mere technical detail of figuring out which one.
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I am not sure if this is really relevant to this topic, but on the subject of English expressions we have a local one up here which can cause a few raised eyebrows when said outside the confines of the local pit communities. Basically when a Geordie (someone form Newcastle my home town) is feeling particularly pooped out after a long day down the pit he says
“well I’m absolutely buggered” ![[whaaaa!]](eek01.gif)
Now not having travelled much in my youth, you can imagine the reaction I got on my first trip to London when I came out with that phrase in response to a question about the train journey down ![[um.... uh huh! ... ]](graemlins/umuhhuh001.gif) ![[DOH!]](graemlins/homerface01.gif)
Haw! Hey, it's damn good to see you over here at Rob's lil' cyber asylum, Darden!
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Wow! Thank you, most enlightening TD! I hope you've got a scanner or don't mind typing...now back to the gay linguistics lesson.
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It's quite funny...unlike the fellow asking the question, I just typed "lorem ipsum" into Google and that's the first thing (of 59,200!) that came up. And it was just cut & paste from there.
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'Gayness' is an interesting choice and fairly recent in it's use, isn't it?
I certainly don't remember the term being used when I was a kid.
Does anyone know where and when the 'Gay' community chose to adopt that word to represent their segment of society?
And why doesn't the term apply to women who chose same sex relationships?
I can tell that the people here have developed caring relationships with each other ~ otherwise this thread would have been a flame war long ago.
It's so nice that it hasn't!
xs
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Originally posted by Shady:
I can tell that the people here have developed caring relationships with each other ~ otherwise this thread would have been a flame war long ago.
It's so nice that it hasn't!
xs
Shady
The only flaming we want to see here is the folders.
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Originally posted by Fat Cramer:
The only flaming we want to see here is the folders.
BURN, BABY, BURN!!!! Nyahahaaah! ![[mwah hwah haa]](graemlins/devil.gif) ![[biiiig grin]](images/icons/grin.gif)
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We need to make Cecil Adams a Legionnaire or a Senior Advisor or somethin'
I found this too at his website but I do believe I first saw it in the second Straight Dope book.
Dear Cecil:
Where, when, how, etc., did the good-natured word "gay" pass into the vernacular as a designation for all things homosexual? Can one be homosexual without being gay, and vice versa? --Tom M., Los Angeles
Cecil replies:
Hate to tell you this, Tom, but the "good-natured word 'gay'" has been leading a double life. Although many people believe "gay" simply meant lighthearted or cheerful until it was shanghaied by the preverts, the truth is the word has long had a secondary connotation of sexual licentiousness. As early as 1637 the Oxford English Dictionary gives one meaning as "addicted to social pleasures and dissipations. Often euphemistically: Of loose and immoral life"--whence, presumably, the term "gay blade." In the 1800s the term was used to refer to female prostitutes; to "gay it" meant "to copulate."
By 1935 the word "geycat," meaning a homosexual boy, had found its way into print, giving a clue as to the direction things were starting to go. Sure enough, by 1955 "gay" had acquired its present meaning, as P. Wildeblood notes in Against Law: "Most of the officers had been "gay' ... an American euphemism for homosexual." Actually, gays had probably been using the term among themselves long before.
Ghettoization of the term began to occur in the 60s so that today "gay" in the sense of "homosexual" has chased out all other uses of the word. This is more the result of the squeamish attitude of the straight world than any organized campaign on the part of gays, and in any case it's no big deal; there are plenty of other words that cover the same territory that the non-sexual meanings of "gay" did.
At one time "gay" referred strictly to male homosexuals; female homosexuals were called lesbians. (This distinction may no longer hold true--today one hears lesbians being referred to as gay.) Whether all male homosexuals would consent to be called gay--whether, for the matter, all gays would consent to be called homosexual--is a question I will not presume to answer. I am quite certain, however, that most gays would reject the implication that "gay" necessarily implies promiscuity.
--CECIL ADAMS
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Thanks, TD!
Very interesting info.
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Originally posted by FarawayLad:
I am not sure if this is really relevant to this topic, but on the subject of English expressions we have a local one up here which can cause a few raised eyebrows when said outside the confines of the local pit communities. Basically when a Geordie (someone form Newcastle my home town) is feeling particularly pooped out after a long day down the pit he says
“well I’m absolutely buggered”
Now not having travelled much in my youth, you can imagine the reaction I got on my first trip to London when I came out with that phrase in response to a question about the train journey down
Haw! Hey, it's damn good to see you over here at Rob's lil' cyber asylum, Darden!
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Originally posted by Greybird:
HWW, don't you want somebody to love? {wicked grin}
Don't we all?
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"So when you speak to him, be tactful."
"What's 'tactful'?"
"Lie."
Not all tact is untruthful. Sometimes tact just means considering the other person's feelings before you post.
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:)
Is this the first thread on the Legion board to reach 100 posts?
[Edited: Nope, as it turns out...]
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Shameless milestone whore! ![[...rassamnfrackin...]](graemlins/grumble01.gif)
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Originally posted by Thriftshop Debutante:
We need to make Cecil Adams a Legionnaire or a Senior Advisor or somethin'
Absolutely! Code Name: Straight Dope. To heck with this teenager rule.
Or maybe Cecil is super intelligent, like Brainy... this wouldn't be a duplicate power, 'cause Cecil is worldly smart. I think super-cool could be a separate power of his too.
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Another hello to Shady, before I forget!
{HWW} "Not all tact is untruthful. Sometimes tact just means considering the other person's feelings before you post."
An entirely worthwhile way to look at it, though I'd tend to file such a motive under "courtesy," with a link to "benevolence." We'd do well to expect the best from everyone on the Net until solid reasons exist to suspect others' motives and actions.
It's easier to be tactful on-line, I've found, when I avoid addressing someone else by name. (Except to attribute quotes.) One less way to be tempted into making it personal.
Tact is better practiced, to me, with careful omission. "You held my attention, I must admit" -- and changing the subject, if possible -- is always better than praising someone to the opposite of "Your performance stank so badly I couldn't turn my nose away, let alone my eyes." {g}
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Originally posted by Greybird:
{HWW} "Not all tact is untruthful. Sometimes tact just means considering the other person's feelings before you post."
An entirely worthwhile way to look at it, though I'd tend to file such a motive under "courtesy," with a link to "benevolence." We'd do well to expect the best from everyone on the Net until solid reasons exist to suspect others' motives and actions.
Gee, Grey, that sounded almost ... tactful. :) :)
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It's easier to be tactful on-line, I've found, when I avoid addressing someone else by name. (Except to attribute quotes.) One less way to be tempted into making it personal.
Tact is better practiced, to me, with careful omission. "You held my attention, I must admit" -- and changing the subject, if possible -- is always better than praising someone to the opposite of "Your performance stank so badly I couldn't turn my nose away, let alone my eyes." {g}
I'm sure we have different ways of approaching tact that are equally valid. The underlying message of tact, for me, at least, is to say to the other person, I respect you and your point of view, even though we disagree.
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I thought this one deserved a bump for the title alone. :) ![[humina humina]](graemlins/love.gif) :) :)
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Why, whatever do you mean, KP?
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Originally posted by FarawayLad:
I am not sure if this is really relevant to this topic, but on the subject of English expressions we have a local one up here which can cause a few raised eyebrows when said outside the confines of the local pit communities. Basically when a Geordie (someone form Newcastle my home town) is feeling particularly pooped out after a long day down the pit he says
“well I’m absolutely buggered”
Now not having travelled much in my youth, you can imagine the reaction I got on my first trip to London when I came out with that phrase in response to a question about the train journey down
Or when they found out which side of Watford you were from they were all thinking what is this thieving inbred gypo after. Or they were blaming you for Ant and Dec.
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Or they saw this... 
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What the Fuck is wrong with you spam-brains?? Not enough attention from Mommy when you were little? Is this a big accomplishment for you in your petty little spam-writing lives? Does it get you hard to see your name all over the message boards like the cum you wish you could spew over a pretty girl?? OOooooh, you've proliferated the boards with the same fucking post over and over again I'm so fucking impressed by you -- it'll look great on your tombstone, fuckers!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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First it was donkey-fuckers, now it's tombstone fuckers??? What is wrong with the people on this board? Sick, sick, sick. Please, get help before it's too late.
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and how exactly do you fuck a tombstone?
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Originally posted by THE LABRADORIAN:
and how exactly do you fuck a tombstone?
I would guess a titanium-tipped condom might be a good place to start.
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Originally posted by Polar Boy:
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Originally posted by FarawayLad:
I am not sure if this is really relevant to this topic, but on the subject of English expressions we have a local one up here which can cause a few raised eyebrows when said outside the confines of the local pit communities. Basically when a Geordie (someone form Newcastle my home town) is feeling particularly pooped out after a long day down the pit he says
“well I’m absolutely buggered”
Now not having travelled much in my youth, you can imagine the reaction I got on my first trip to London when I came out with that phrase in response to a question about the train journey down
Or when they found out which side of Watford you were from they were all thinking what is this thieving inbred gypo after. Or they were blaming you for Ant and Dec.
alas and alack I pre date those two winsome charmers by a number of years I'm older than I look you know
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Where's that little translator earplug when you need it?
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