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New talk thread for the new story. I posted it without waiting for all the epilogues because the beast is big, I think it will take a lot to be read by many, so, instead of rushing to post, meditate it a little. ![[wink]](images/icons/wink.gif) I am here to answer questions. By the way, it's not so long, but I have put in the beginning all the material needed to lay the story. By the way, I have nothing else to add. Everyone is comletely entitled to bring the story in the direction he wants. The only raccomandations I have are: don't kill Rose and Morphina, because Chewy asked so (they are his creatures); don't kill Jack Merlin, I am asking it; don't kill D'Goon, because, A) the story would have no menaing, and B) because Grimm ask so; everything else is up to you. The twelve members of the Strikeforce presented here are the top guns, but there are many others: if you want to add someone, feel free. And feel free to explain motivation, rev eals hidden secret, fears and devious habits for the Strikeforce members at your own pleasure.
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Since some jackass ( ![[yuh huh]](images/icons/rolleyes.gif) ) closed the other thread, I'll finish my post here. quote:
Originally posted by I'm Not Mister Mxypltk:
That's a powerful epilogue, JD.
Thanks. It was the last loose thread I had left to deal with for the character. Plus, I needed something to show just how different his world is to everyone else on the team as well as a catalyst for him leaving permenantly.
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Great work Doc!
Thanks again.
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Doc : Nice. Simple. Elegant. Concise. And perfectly in flavor with the man called Dirk Bell. I'll miss the bastard.
I'll miss the bastard too, but I haven't fully retired him yet. He'll pop up every now and then to stir up trouble.
As some of you know, I've been wanting to take Dirk out of the main story for a while now. I've been writing the character for years and thought that it was time for a nice change of pace. Plus, I really wasn't able to do all the things I wanted with the character due to the group setting. I wanted to do things that I felt would have been egotistical and unfair to other writers and characters if I did them in the main story, and it didn't seem logical for him to do them in solos if he didn't do them elsewhere. By taking Dirk out for a while, I can reintroduce him in solos down the road more in line with what I wanted to do originally and with it making sense characterwise.
As far as what I'll do now, I'm working on something. ![[who, me?]](graemlins/whome01.gif) Just progress the story as you see fit. I'll jump in when I see an opporitunity.
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I'll try and get Ozzy in there tonight or tomorrow.
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That was a lot of footnotes, Euro! Hahaha...
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Eh eh eh! I put everything that is needed to know in my initial post, but for whoever want to know more, I spared the difficulty of finding out where.
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Okay.... ::head...exploding::.... So, the Vanguardians, due to pay their debt to D'Goon, have to protect him from the group called Strikeforce-1....who are assembled characters that you guys have run into in past stories. Some are criminals of some type. MEANwhile, Naecken (??!) has dropped a meteor on the east coast of the U.S., demanding to "rule the world". D'Goon has sided with him, but only to protect his country. And, we can't kill Rose, Morphina, Jack Merlin, and D'Goon. Does that sum it up? BTW, isn't Smith, like, the incarnation of pure evil? Why are earth would he even NEED, much less ask for, the Vanguardian's help? And, who is Nadia? Is she a "Black Widow"-type character, or, what?
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Yes, it sum it up. ![[biiiig grin]](images/icons/grin.gif) About Smith, I leave the answer to Mxy. He asked me to include him in this way, I don't want to risk to reveal anything that Mxy could refer to take for himself, so I leave it to him. About Nadia, she is the true alias of Sonja Ljzavet, that was with the Revolutionaries from issue 3 to 6. Her story is complex, I will make an entry for her in the secret files soon, to understand her character read the Interludes about Naecken and the "substory" set in Espertingozia and Montecarlo of the last issue. They should help. To help more, how you portrayed Ameristar in Heroes and Legend would apply best to Nadia than to the true Jackie "Monroe". About the motivation of Naecken, if you are really interested , you can read the two miniseries Naecken prince of Hell" and "Naecken the Artic Crusade" somewhere in the old pages of this forum, and also "Naecken the Gathering" that is presented as interludes in the past issue. One of the urpose of this story is to resolve and clear it, but I don't think it's relevant to the Vanguardian adventure. That is about our characters protecting D'Goon from the Strikeforce. The war will be just the background, and our heroes will be not involved directly in it(unless someone will bring the story in that direction )
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Hello.
Things came up last night. (Large, Norse, Wulfen related things).
Please don't close the old story until I can post. I'm trying to catch up before I go to work in a few minutes.
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Things came up last night. (Large, Norse, Wulfen related things).
![[eh?]](images/icons/confused.gif) Don't they have therapy for that?
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Whew! Finally posted the thing I wanted to do with Quantos. And since it seems to fit better in the new story (especially with the revelation about Li'l Jo), I decided to put it there rather than in an epilogue in the last one. I know the thing about Quantos and his daughter seems sort of similar to the thing about Kit Piper and his daughters in issue #11, but it's not. It's really not. ![[um.... uh huh! ... ]](graemlins/umuhhuh001.gif) Seriously, Helen McKenzie is a full-grown adult of 28, and she won't even be seen in this story at all (probably). But it's a subplot nonetheless which I'd long been planning and which works nicely with the current mission.
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BTW, I wasn't really sure what the line-up of the current story is supposed to be like, so I just posted the line-up from the last story and cut a couple of the characters I figured would be cut. Let me know who else should be cut or added to the team.
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Fix your Robdamned roll call, TTT. ![[nyah hah]](images/icons/tongue.gif) At Chewy's request, Grissom has 'demoted' himself to a supporting role. Leslie is staying behind with Quantos to go over the information from Phil. Phil is recovering from some of the tests done on him and will be slightly delayed but will catch up with the team as soon as possible. That's all I have for you as far as my created or inherited characters. So yeah, do whatever works. I'm sure it'll kick the usual amount of ass. ![[woooOOOOoooo!]](graemlins/smilewoo.gif)
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Gaaah!
Euro, two things:
1) I asked you to let me introduce Smith to the story myself. For the first time ever, I had a post written in advance for that.
2) (and this is for everyone) I REALLY think next time we should wait until all the epilogues are over until we start the new story. What if something big happens in Grimm's epilogue? We alredy had troubles with something like this at the end of the Hurricane, and that time in order to save the epilogue I wanted to do I had to come up with a lame solution, which left a loose end that hangs to this day (Daniella's "replica", or whatever it is I called it).
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I wrote a post in which Daniela's replica disappeared in front of Kit Piper's eyes, but yeah, it was a bit of a sloppy solution.
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OK, Grissom is out, Phil Smith is in. No supporting staff will be listed -- only active members.
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Apologies for the The 2003 JLR Starsky-Hutch Awards poll jumping above all the adventures and stuff. It was the will of the RKMB headline generator! Anyhoo, please feel free to cast your votes on our stories, characters and ![[whaaaa!]](eek01.gif) posters. Handy links have been provided in the poll, to guide you around our little reality. Ta! Brit
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About the Strikeforce: I think that, while it's important not to contradict anything that's been said about the Strikeforce before (that isn't much), since, all things considered, they are minor characters we can interpret them how we like in order to make them more interesting for us. For example, I'll be adding new members ("reserve members") to use when I post with the Strikeforce because, frankly, few of the alredy existing members motivate me. quote:
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I wrote a post in which Daniela's replica disappeared in front of Kit Piper's eyes
I know, what I meant is that it's still a loose end for the team.
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don't kill Rose and Morphina, because Chewy asked so (they are his creatures)
Thanks, Euro. I do have plans for these characters, which I will set into motion over at Sammtich's board in the formation of a new team story (in which I'll be playing all the parts... ). I prolly won't put anything about it up until this stories finished (prolly sometime around March or so), so don't get too excited just yet.
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About the Strikeforce: I think that, while it's important not to contradict anything that's been said about the Strikeforce before (that isn't much), since, all things considered, they are minor characters we can interpret them how we like in order to make them more interesting for us.
For example, I'll be adding new members ("reserve members") to use when I post with the Strikeforce because, frankly, few of the alredy existing members motivate me.
Euro has told me that there are many other members of the Strikeforce beyond just the 12 we've seen. Those twelve are sort of the "Olympians" of the group, but there are others. For instance, Calvin Nachtman will end up being recruited by one of the sub-teams. So don't worry about creating new characters -- but don't get too attached to them, or any of the Strikeforce members. ![[mwah hwah haa]](graemlins/devil.gif)
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So... did anyone notice the nod to an old TOMB story I inserted in my post?
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Holy crap - my character is listed fourth from the top of the list!!! :lol: I was tempted to send both Phil and Leslie on this one, but that would have required a breach of the cardinal rule. Anyway, I'm just gonna stick with Phil for this story, but I will be using Leslie (and maybe others!) in the background quite a bit as well. I will probably post later tonight.
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You should kinda explain Leslie's role with Vanguard, though. Is she joining the support staff, or are you planning on replacing Phil with her in the team roster?
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I figure we'll play that by ear. I wanted both characters on the team in an active role, but like I said that would be a clear violation of the rules - unless another poster would be willing to write Leslie for this issue. Otherwise, consider her an auxiliary for the time being, since she's currently assisting Quantos with the analysis of Phil's data.
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Be sure to check out my Krononauts story, as it ties in with the current issue. And let me know what you think of it.
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I have a few opinions I would like to express, as well. I realize that I haven't written with this group in awhile, and may have no place in voicing these concerns, but, when the hell has that ever stopped me? 1) For an "unstructured" story, I find this very confined. Not only has the enemy (D'Goon) and his motivation already been revealed, but the background of the planet during this story is one of apocalyptic proportions. When the towers fell in NYC, every political power on the planet got jumpy. In this story, a fucking meteor just buried itself into the eastern continental shelf of North America at about mach-six. Then, a "demon lord" broadcasts his demands to the population of the world. THEN, the leader of the most advanced society on Earth (D'Goon) decides he's going to play war with the other global super-powers? So, not only is our task/conflict already clearly outlined, but, so is the environment of the story. This does not bode well for an "unstructured" story. 2) Why is the Naecken plot so very important? Why is the main story being rushed into dealing with an abandoned plot, left hanging by a writer that will never return? Why can't this be accomplished in a solo thread? Not knocking on your stuff, Euro, but, if the rest of the writers don't have to be involved in this (as you said), then why present it within the main story? Why take up a story with your personal pet project (I'm looking your direction, Phil... ) that none of the rest of us are directly involved within? I was personally hoping for a slow, creative story, coming so fast after the already incomplete epic of the last story. You know, a quiet piece that would allow everyone to get used to this next step in the cast of the Vanguardians. So many of the standard characters/writers are gone. Can't there be some repercussions in that area? Must we rush straight into another epic? 3) With all due respect to everyone, I have to ask again: Why are we still using characters with no writers? During the TOMB/MBL days, if a writer didn't post for an entire story, it was not the responsibility of the group to take care of that character. Danny is my friend. I like the guy. We've written together for years. But, if he can't post for an entire story, then exit his character. Plain and simple. I would expect nothing less if I left my character in there. If Chewy wants Phil to have Grissom, so be it. But, I am of the mind that Phil shouldn't readily use Phil AND Grissom on the field team. That's why I completely agree with him being moved to security detail/background-status. 4) Phil, how did you just have exploratory neurosurgery, and be well enough to go on a field mission? Just curious. Cause, as I was seeing it, Ozzy and Nuriko are probably just arriving at the air field. So, you see the problem with advancing this story "a month later". But, if everyone wants to advance it later, then, I'm going to have to squeeze in a month's worth of interaction and development with Ozzy and the rest...in, like, ONE post. Can you help me understand this? 5) Euro, who exactly is your character for this story? To put it bluntly, I do not believe that with Doc, myself, and (probably) Mxy creating new characters to enter in the team, that we should have to sacrifice the beginnings of our character development and interaction, just to satisfy the subplot of an ex-writer. That's just my twenty-five-cents.
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quote:
Posted by Pro:
Why take up a story with your personal pet project (I'm looking your direction, Phil... ) that none of the rest of us are directly involved within?
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![[eh... i dunno... ]](graemlins/ehidunno.gif)
I CRAVE BEING THE CENTER OF ATTENTION, DAMMIT!!!
No, honestly I'm trying to make a connection. I'll try and keep my subplots out of this story as much as I can.
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If Chewy wants Phil to have Grissom, so be it. But, I am of the mind that Phil shouldn't readily use Phil AND Grissom on the field team. That's why I completely agree with him being moved to security detail/background-status.
I couldn't agree more. Chewy suggested it, I went with it. I don't want to bungle someone else's character, and I definitely don't want everyone busting my ass for breaking the rules.
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4) Phil, how did you just have exploratory neurosurgery, and be well enough to go on a field mission?
Mandelovian non-invasive scanning equipment, beeeyotch. ![[cool]](images/icons/cool.gif)
Actually I have no frame of reference regarding the timetable. And I did say he'd be delayed a little. Hope that doesn't cause any problems. If you have any other ideas let me know.
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The man is still talking...
To put it bluntly, I do not believe that with Doc, myself, and (probably) Mxy creating new characters to enter in the team, that we should have to sacrifice the beginnings of our character development and interaction, just to satisfy the subplot of an ex-writer.
That's just my twenty-five-cents.
Development is really important to me. I've still managed to keep an enormous volume of information on Phil under wraps. And I've seen how thoroughly you guys develop characters. It takes time, and that time ought to be respected by the other writers. I'm doing my best here. Let me know if I can make things easier somehow.
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Sammitch: The man is still talking...
In fact, he rarely stops.
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Phil : Notice the " " after that statement? It was just a joke. I sincerely recognize your improvement in the group-writing-balance. :) quote:
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Sammitch: The man is still talking...
In fact, he rarely stops.
I'm sorry, what? I didn't hear you.
I was too busy having something to actually say... :lol:
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I know you were joking. But you're still a talkative rat bastard. :lol:
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But you're still a talkative rat bastard.
I was a drunken Bard in my past life.
A tour guide before that.
And, back in the primordial era, nothing but a disembodied mouth, ranting on and on...
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Mxy, I am VERY sorry, I didn't remember that you asked that. Send me the post, I will fit it into my post. About the Strikeforce, everybody can add/create his/her own members. And don't forget that what I have written was the press conference, so they could be a lot different from what I have said. quote:
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I have a few opinions I would like to express, as well. I realize that I haven't written with this group in awhile, and may have no place in voicing these concerns, but, when the hell has that ever stopped me?
1) For an "unstructured" story, I find this very confined. Not only has the enemy (D'Goon) and his motivation already been revealed, but the background of the planet during this story is one of apocalyptic proportions. When the towers fell in NYC, every political power on the planet got jumpy. In this story, a fucking meteor just buried itself into the eastern continental shelf of North America at about mach-six. Then, a "demon lord" broadcasts his demands to the population of the world. THEN, the leader of the most advanced society on Earth (D'Goon) decides he's going to play war with the other global super-powers?
So, not only is our task/conflict already clearly outlined, but, so is the environment of the story. This does not bode well for an "unstructured" story.
Right. But from this point on, nothing is defined. You can reveal that D'Goon in fact want to defend Earth, that the Strikeforce are really men of Naecken, anything... Plus, I have nothing else set to happen. Will new meteors fall down? That's up to you.
2) Why is the Naecken plot so very important? Why is the main story being rushed into dealing with an abandoned plot, left hanging by a writer that will never return? Why can't this be accomplished in a solo thread? Not knocking on your stuff, Euro, but, if the rest of the writers don't have to be involved in this (as you said), then why present it within the main story? Why take up a story with your personal pet project (I'm looking your direction, Phil... ) that none of the rest of us are directly involved within?
No, it's not that the other writers MUST not be involved. It's your choice. If we want a small story, we concentrate over the stuff with D'Goon, to exlore different meaning of being heroes and metahumans. If we want go global, there is the war.
This story is not about the plot left by T5, it's about the debt owed to D'Goon. And since D'Goon will soon... disappear... from our Universe, this was the last chance to do that story.
I was personally hoping for a slow, creative story, coming so fast after the already incomplete epic of the last story. You know, a quiet piece that would allow everyone to get used to this next step in the cast of the Vanguardians. So many of the standard characters/writers are gone. Can't there be some repercussions in that area? Must we rush straight into another epic?
I know your favourite story are like "One sunny day in Mandelovia", but as I said, this is the last chance to do the story about the debt. And, remeber, this story was set to be the old team vs new team, and if we have to drop that is just because there are too few old writers and character available.
3) With all due respect to everyone, I have to ask again: Why are we still using characters with no writers? During the TOMB/MBL days, if a writer didn't post for an entire story, it was not the responsibility of the group to take care of that character.
Danny is my friend. I like the guy. We've written together for years. But, if he can't post for an entire story, then exit his character. Plain and simple. I would expect nothing less if I left my character in there. If Chewy wants Phil to have Grissom, so be it. But, I am of the mind that Phil shouldn't readily use Phil AND Grissom on the field team. That's why I completely agree with him being moved to security detail/background-status.
My idea is that just the characters with posters go into mission. But why the others have to go away? Danny has no place on Earth outside Vanguard. If we had written him away from the story during last mission it would have been right. Having him leaving just now, it would seem artificial, IMO.
And to be more clear: I would let Danny on La Perdita, for this mission.
4) Phil, how did you just have exploratory neurosurgery, and be well enough to go on a field mission? Just curious. Cause, as I was seeing it, Ozzy and Nuriko are probably just arriving at the air field. So, you see the problem with advancing this story "a month later". But, if everyone wants to advance it later, then, I'm going to have to squeeze in a month's worth of interaction and development with Ozzy and the rest...in, like, ONE post. Can you help me understand this?
Yes. And about it, I'd say, fuck continuity. We had done it before. Consider your character as he has been just let into the team. Brianna has arrived after years of prison and one transatlatic flight on her own, and has been send suddenly into mission.
5) Euro, who exactly is your character for this story?
Well, I think to have written it before, but I'll repeat myself. My character for this story is Nadia. She will be with Vanguard for the last time, then she will become just a guest star (until I will chance my mind, who knows?).
Her updated bio is in the secret files thread, but I fear reading it will make her much more confusing than ever.
To put it bluntly, I do not believe that with Doc, myself, and (probably) Mxy creating new characters to enter in the team, that we should have to sacrifice the beginnings of our character development and interaction, just to satisfy the subplot of an ex-writer.
We are the writers, this is not the subplot of an ex-writers, it's the story we want that it will become. What I don't understand is if the only way to introduce new characters is having them going to the metahuman bar. Vanguard is a company, when new guys arrive, they are tested into mission, going with the seasoned one.
By the way, I am not saying that we have to jump on the mission in a matter of minutes. Look at issue 11, we had a New year eve arty lasting for two pages (and two weeks of posting, I think) before actually going into mission.
I'll repeat, the story is done by the writers. You want it slow? Slow it down! Write something that makes them slowing down... . I'll repeat, aside the fact that I will edit the beginning to fit Mxy's script, from that ooint on is up to you writing the story, HOW YOU WOULD PREFER.
That's just my twenty-five-cents.
And this is mine. Twenty-five- cents... of Euro.
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Originally posted by Prometheus:
Phil : Notice the " " after that statement? It was just a joke. I sincerely recognize your improvement in the group-writing-balance. :)
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Sammitch: The man is still talking...
In fact, he rarely stops.
I'm sorry, what? I didn't hear you.
I was too busy having something to actually say... :lol:
What? When did that happen? I missed it! :lol:
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and. . .posted! Lock 'er up and put 'er to bed.
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Very nice epilogues, Grimm. The talks between Collins and Magnus was really intriguing...
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Thankees. That was the idear. I wasn't sure how it would come out as I'd only had about three hours of sleep yesterday.
Oh, btw, we've got spammage in the Yahoo group, anyone care to remove it?
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A surprising round of epilogues from everyone. Good stuff.
I'll also like to say that I'm against a new story being started without the old one being finished. I won't wait around for posters for a week to post, but I will give them a few days. Starting a new story while people are still posting in the old feels like posting the ending to a story before we start on the middle, if you get my drift. I applaud your enthusiasm, Euro, for wanting to get the next story rolling; but we need time to wrap things up before we can move on. The beginning and end of stories are the best times for us writers to do the important character development stuff, and we should give that a little time.
As far as the Naecken story, I want no part of it. As I've said before, I could never really wrap my head around T5's writings. They were too unstable and convoluted. His inability to maintain a flow or address issues that he brought up really threw me off of his writing and never gave me anything that I could get interested in or characters that I could sympathize with or care for. Even having Naecken drop a meteor on an entire city couldn't make me interested in him or his story. I personnally will not be taking any part in that storyline. It's just not my cup of tea. I'll let interested parties handle that.
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Originally posted by The Eurostar:
This story is not about the plot left by T5, it's about the debt owed to D'Goon. And since D'Goon will soon... disappear... from our Universe, this was the last chance to do that story.
Okay. So, anything goes, right? I mean, I have nothing specific in mind, but, if we go off on a tangent, we won't be corraled back into a preconcieved line of storytelling in one post, right?
I know your favourite story are like "One sunny day in Mandelovia"...
I understand how you might think that. But, in all truth, I don't mind set-up stories. It's just when the set-up is so padded with pre-designed details and paths that I get a bit turned-off to the lack of creative freedom. That's all. "One Sunny Day" stories are, in their own right, quite fun. But, I'm of the mind that those should come naturally with the type of mood we are in.
My idea is that just the characters with posters go into mission. But why the others have to go away? Danny has no place on Earth outside Vanguard. If we had written him away from the story during last mission it would have been right. Having him leaving just now, it would seem artificial, IMO.
Well, I'm going to concede this, as it seems I'm the only one here who is of this opinion. And, it should be noted, I was only using Danny as an example.
And to be more clear: I would let Danny on La Perdita, for this mission.
Again, Danny himself, is only an example.
Yes. And about it, I'd say, fuck continuity. We had done it before. Consider your character as he has been just let into the team. Brianna has arrived after years of prison and one transatlatic flight on her own, and has been send suddenly into mission.
......wait! Wait. Wait. Did.....I just read that? Let me see....
Yes. And about it, I'd say, fuck continuity.
:lol: Euro, the irony in that is a million-fold! You've just gained a spot on my sig-line.
But, seriously, sounds great. I will, indeed, say "fuck continuity", and have Ozzy just getting there.
Well, I think to have written it before, but I'll repeat myself. My character for this story is Nadia. She will be with Vanguard for the last time, then she will become just a guest star (until I will chance my mind, who knows?).
Her updated bio is in the secret files thread, but I fear reading it will make her much more confusing than ever.
I'll bet.
Okay, sorry. My fault. I must have glazed over that detail. I just went back and saw where you stated exactly that very clearly. My bad.
We are the writers, this is not the subplot of an ex-writers, it's the story we want that it will become. What I don't understand is if the only way to introduce new characters is having them going to the metahuman bar.
I don't understand this part. "Metahuman bar"? Translate for me what you mean here.
Vanguard is a company, when new guys arrive, they are tested into mission, going with the seasoned one.
Fair enough.
By the way, I am not saying that we have to jump on the mission in a matter of minutes. Look at issue 11, we had a New year eve arty lasting for two pages (and two weeks of posting, I think) before actually going into mission.
Okay. I understand.
I'll repeat, the story is done by the writers. You want it slow? Slow it down! Write something that makes them slowing down...
Sounds like a plan.
I'll repeat, aside the fact that I will edit the beginning to fit Mxy's script, from that ooint on is up to you writing the story, HOW YOU WOULD PREFER.
I'm going to hold you to this statement...
Twenty-five- cents... of Euro.
What's that in U.S. currency?
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Originally Posted by Prometheus:
I'm sorry, what? I didn't hear you.
I was too busy having something to actually say... :lol:
What? When did that happen? I missed it! :lol:
You were drunk...I mean, awake... :lol:
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Originally posted by thedoctor:
Il also like to say that I'm against a new story being started without the old one being finished. I won't wait around for posters for a week to post, but I will give them a few days. Starting a new story while people are still posting in the old feels like posting the ending to a story before we start on the middle, if you get my drift. I applaud your enthusiasm, Euro, for wanting to get the next story rolling; but we need time to wrap things up before we can move on.
I never quoted myself, but let's see:
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I posted it without waiting for all the epilogues because the beast is big, I think it will take a lot to be read by many, so, instead of rushing to post, meditate it a little.
I was intending that while waiting for the ending of issue 13, I posted 14 so that everyone can ask for clarification and such, because I knew and know that it has a starting point a little more comlicate than the usual. But it was my choiuce of putting ALL at the beginning, so that from the "second" post the story could sail for unexpected path...
The beginning and end of stories are the best times for us writers to do the important character development stuff, and we should give that a little time.
I know, but that doesn't mean that it has to be always like that. Why character development can't happen in the middle of a story? Why the development is always in self contained "solo" post, and seldom if never in the body of the story? Why our heroes never "grow" interacting with their friends, but mostly on their own?
As far as the Naecken story, I want no part of it. As I've said before, I could never really wrap my head around T5's writings. They were too unstable and convoluted. His inability to maintain a flow or address issues that he brought up really threw me off of his writing and never gave me anything that I could get interested in or characters that I could sympathize with or care for. Even having Naecken drop a meteor on an entire city couldn't make me interested in him or his story. I personnally will not be taking any part in that storyline. It's just not my cup of tea. I'll let interested parties handle that.
I can understand this, but I want remember that this is much more Kristogar Velo's story, being based over the plot set in issue 5, than T5's story. The latter is just the excuse for having Vanguard to pay the debt.
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