RKMBs Forums .::Important::. Writer's Block You Say You Want A [Hero] Solution? Well, You Know...

Hey, I figured it was about time to start up a new topic. But five pages is about right. I don't think it's necessary to restart these talk threads any sooner than that (and it's really irritating that all my talk threads so far have been three-pagers)... Oh well.

So... nobody's posted anything for a while. Well, we've sort of written ourselves in a corner as far as T5's plot goes, since only three characters have taken the case. But that shouldn't stop the rest of us from coming up with something else to do. Something a little less... impulsive, perhaps? A little planning never hurt anyone.

[ 05-20-2002: Message edited by: TheTimeTrust ]

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from the last Talk Thread by TTT:
It might be time for an updated pic of the Hero Revolution group, too, especially since our membership has changed quite a bit since the last one that Euro did.

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I am working on it, only I am not able to do the Chimp as ugly as should be. Aside from that, should I put Piper and Shirley in the picture?

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Supposedly posted by The Eurostar:
TTT, can you re-post the links to the MBL site and to the HR club, that I have accidentaly deleted?

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Sure! Here they are:

http://docquantum.tripod.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/herorevolution/

In fact, I have all the MBL and TOMB stories, minus two MBL, one from the early days, and one from the last days at DC Boards; both were only one page long, thus being totally deleted from the boards.

I will send it to you tonight, TTT. Tell me if you need anything else.

But, do you have the first page of a MBL from early 2000 with the first post by Prometheus X?

It's something that is mentioned in a sort of talk thread of the time, but that I have never found because it was only one page long and thus deleted totally from the boards.

I'm missing everything from before "The New Message Board League" (June 1999; I have 2nd page on only).

I'm also missing everything between "the Message Board League" of August 1999 (on the JLA board) and "The Message Board League" of October 1999 (on the ODCUT board).

If you can fill any of these gaps, I'd sure appreciate it.

I don't want to steal the show from the others player, it's something I have planned with T5 and shouldn't last for many posts, unless someone other want to further it.

I'm looking forward to Pro's "The Order," if he ever gets around to writing it, since it sounds more "cosmic" than what we've been up to, and he's just the writer who can pull that sort of thing off well.

So, should we try to do something a little more "cosmic" in the next story, in line with the MBL of old who fought the Hyperboard Entity and VIPER and saw the entire sub-continent of Europe go missing? Any thoughts?

[ 05-20-2002: Message edited by: TheTimeTrust ]

In the old days, we didn't need to set things up too carefully. We just wrote and continued on from where each of us left off, which is what I'd like to see happen here. Too often it seems as if everyone has gone into detailed planning. Planning isn't bad in itself, but it tend to be counterproductive if it's planned out so much that any creative deviations tends to derail the story. This is what really turned me off of the whole MBL/TOMB universe. Everyone had planned weeks and months in advance of the story, and it had ceased to be fun. So if you have an idea for a story beginning just post it, and let the rest of us continue where you left off with what we each have to bring to it.

...and I tend to go melodramatic and dark anyway; cosmic just makes me, well, do what I did in the TOMB stories. No further explanation needed.

...not that anyone cares...

Damned if I'm not obliged to go visit my loving grandmother now though, guess I'll do it when I get back.

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Originally posted by TheTimeTrust:
I'm looking forward to Pro's "The Order," if he ever gets around to writing it, since it sounds more "cosmic" than what we've been up to, and he's just the writer who can pull that sort of thing off well.

Well, I wouldn't call The Order (damn Marvel for stealing that name!) anything terribly "cosmic". Although, depends on what your definition is of the word. If and when (*sigh* You people hate me for all this TOMBForever/The Order half-assed stuff, don't you?) I can get to it, it deals with more mythology/religion and heavy ties to science. But, there are a few "?"-style concepts in it.

Really, The Order was born out of the need for me to write, and being seperated from what you guys are doing now. Since I haven't been able to keep up with The Revolution, I just created my own little 'pocket' team/concept that would co-exist within your universe. Much like M.A.N. was with TOMB.

Damn TTT. Now you've gotten me thinking about writing again. Don't do that. It will only torture us both.

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Originally posted by TheTimeTrust:
...real aliens...

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OOH! DIBS!

This is intended to be A future of the Messageverse, but not necessarily THE future, so anyone who's still alive at the end of the last MBL story can appear, albeit 24 years older. It would be interesting to see who's running the MBL now that it's "keeping the world safe for democracy" at the expense of individual freedoms. It's sort of based, as I see it, on the fears that the current anti-terrorism legislation being brought up in many countries could lead and is leading to a reduction of personal freedoms which could end up in a "Big Brother"-type one-world government.

Of course, if you had your own plans for this, Gooz, I'd be happy to delete my post and create my own future MBL thread.

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Originally posted by TheTimeTrust:
Gooz, I have absolutely no idea where you were going with "MBL: Nightfall," but it looked like the story was abandoned for a while, so I figured I'd restart it and explain that it's set in the future in the year 2025, where the MBL is a dictatorial "peacekeeping force" in the world.

This is intended to be A future of the Messageverse, but not necessarily THE future, so anyone who's still alive at the end of the last MBL story can appear, albeit 24 years older. It would be interesting to see who's running the MBL now that it's "keeping the world safe for democracy" at the expense of individual freedoms. It's sort of based, as I see it, on the fears that the current anti-terrorism legislation being brought up in many countries could lead and is leading to a reduction of personal freedoms which could end up in a "Big Brother"-type one-world government.

Of course, if you had your own plans for this, Gooz, I'd be happy to delete my post and create my own future MBL thread.

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You know, I have A LOT of ideas for a Watchmen-like MBL story...

About the MBL and the Revolution...

I envisioned that after THE END the whole thing collapsed. We pretty much killed the cosmic forces and gods holding our universe together, without them we would decline and the world, nay universe, would totally destroy itself. Some say that the Revolution is a rewrite of the TOMBL, but I don't really like that idea. I see them as separate, parallel existences. We had a multiverse, but unlike most multiverses we destroyed our "prime reality". The only reason I make this distinction is that I want to use a little bit of the old in the new; not in the sense that we have been (names, places, and such) but actually transplant something old to the Revolution. I say that in order to fit with the Nightfall story that the universe is decaying and fraying at the edges, but that in about 100-200 years after THE END story concluded the entire universe disintegrated out of existence.

Thoughts?

For Gooz, the old Universe is a better place, where he lives a normal life with that girl (I don't remember her name).

For me, the last one has been reshaped into the new one, and only Nowhereman remembers (see my last post in the Resolution).

For other persons it could be different.

I think it doesn't really matter, unless we want to come back to write continuing stories about that Universe. If this is not the case, and we want to write "specials", I see them as Elseworlds, like the extremely good that most of us was writing, and that, sadly, lies abandoned at the bottom of our forum .

In other words, the past is the same, but the future is debatable.

I see this story as sort of a Kingdom Come type story, only much darker, like Watchmen and Dark Knight Returns/DK2.

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Originally posted by TheTimeTrust:
Gooz, I have absolutely no idea where you were going with "MBL: Nightfall," but it looked like the story was abandoned for a while, so I figured I'd restart it and explain that it's set in the future in the year 2025, where the MBL is a dictatorial "peacekeeping force" in the world.

This is intended to be A future of the Messageverse, but not necessarily THE future, so anyone who's still alive at the end of the last MBL story can appear, albeit 24 years older. It would be interesting to see who's running the MBL now that it's "keeping the world safe for democracy" at the expense of individual freedoms. It's sort of based, as I see it, on the fears that the current anti-terrorism legislation being brought up in many countries could lead and is leading to a reduction of personal freedoms which could end up in a "Big Brother"-type one-world government.

Of course, if you had your own plans for this, Gooz, I'd be happy to delete my post and create my own future MBL thread.

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TTT, you more or less read my mind. I was planning this as a Post-MBL story set in the old universe after the War (I was thinking a few years laster, but 2025 works too ). In my mind, an Ex-Member (no, not Gooz - I really have no one in mind) put together this high tech group of the worlds strongest (heros, villains, 007 type agents) to police the world.

Loved? Hated? They GET the job done.

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Originally posted by TheTimeTrust:
Yeah, I agree, only I wouldn't call MBL: Nightfall an "Elseworlds," exactly, because it's more like a possible future as opposed to a parallel timeline.

In other words, the past is the same, but the future is debatable.

I see this story as sort of a Kingdom Come type story, only much darker, like Watchmen and Dark Knight Returns/DK2.

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I understand, but wasn't Kindom Come labeled as an Elseworld? Many Elseworld are placed in future times, I think.

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Originally posted by Avatar:
Okay...but if I include my view of the universe in Revolution continuity I don't want anyone biting my head off okay?

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Hi Av. Sorry for the abrupt ending of our AIM session yeaterday, but my computer crashed twice.
As for your questions, my answer are:
1) I am all for it
2) I prefer evolution to starting over.

About the inclusion of old bit of contnuty in the new one, we have Nowhereman, and there are two writers making plans to have something from the past Universe showing up in our time (and one of the writers is the coolest one eh eh), so I say go for it.
Only wasn't you that at the beginning of the Universe said that in no way it should have crossed with the old one?

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Originally posted by The Eurostar:
I understand, but wasn't Kindom Come labeled as an Elseworld? Many Elseworld are placed in future times, I think.

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It's true. KC, DKR/DKR2, and Watchmen are all considered "Elseworlds", as they don't take place in typical DC continuity (heck, Watchmen doesn't even take place in the same UNIVERSE!).

So... the current storyline... we really need something to happen soon, since all the preliminary work has been established. So, if it's all right with everyone, I think we should have the group accept its first official case (the kidnapping case isn't really an official one since it only involves three members). Something along the vein of X-Files... But I don't want to start anything if I'm going to be the only one writing it. Is anyone else interested in contributing to a story like that?

I think T5 has been away from the board for a few day, I think when he'll return the kidnapping plot will be explored furtherr. Also, the various MBL stories don't help in progressing the HR plot.

But I am sure that at some point it will take fire.

And also, if the first case come after the kidnapping case is resolved, makes sense. Free advertising, I think...