RKMBs Forums .::Important::. Politics and Current Events "It's not about oil or Iraq..."

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Originally Posted by Dave the Wonder Boy

And regarding the Islamic world, I firmly believe it's not a "radical sect" but the whole of Islam itself that is our enemy. As I've pointed out with articles to back it, a majority of Islamic world is hostile to us, and openly praises al Qaida terrorism.
Brutal governments, wars, suicide bombings, poor treatment of women, and other conditions that give pause to foreign investors and internally repress and stall economic growth, are all rooted in Islamic beliefs and culture, that is holding nations of the Islamic world down, and threatening other countries, as their gospel is spread through Islamic fundamentalism and terror (Algeria, Egypt, Jordan, Iran, Sudan, Pakistan, Chechnya, The Phillipines, Indonesia, etc.)

The more true Muslims are to their beliefs, the more dangerous they are to the rest of the world, and to themselves.
Again, my eternal image of Islam is 9/11/2001. And more so the 90% of the Palestinian population cheering the deaths of 3000 Americans in the West bank and Gaza, rather than the fanatics who flew jets into buildings.
There was a cover story in TIME magazine a few months ago questioning whether Saudi Arabia is our friend or enemy. And discussing the Saudi sect of Islam called Wahabism, and how spread of wahabism through missionaries has brought terrorism to every corner of the Muslim world and beyond, including al Qaida, Chechnya and the Phillipines.

But please go on, chant your anti-conservative feel-good rhetoric, that muslims are all essentially good except for a few fanatics (but then, of course, we know America really deserved it and their murderous actions can be rationalized by past U.S. Middle East policy, right? )
And the true evil is republicans, right?. Play on, maestro.

And again, if the rhetoric you spew had been allowed in the 1940's, we would have lost World War II:
Hey, Hitler isn't a real threat, we should spend that money at home. It costs too much!
If your kind were around then, we'd be having this conversation now in German. If we were deemed racially pure enough to be allowed to live.

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Yeah, it must be hard work trying to discredit me.






I'm going to quote the preceeding post just to ensure it doesn't go anywhere.

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Originally posted by Dave the Wonder Boy:

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Originally posted by Whomod:

um....

psst, Dave.

As I recall, you think that ALL Muslims are a threat to your way of life.

As for Bush, yeah, he cooled off his "crusade" rhetoric for political reasons but i'm sure he still shares that "extreme" minority POV you mention.

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That is deliberate distortion and misinformation on your part, and distortion on many levels.

I believe, based on evidence, that Islam has a disproportionately high ratio of homicidal fanatics, who, based on scriptures of the Quran, think it's okay to wage war in the name of Allah, suicide bomb for Allah, beat women and deprive them of rights, treating them as property, "honor-killings" of women, and "put to the sword" those who convert from Islam or teach non-Muslim beliefs in Muslim countries.

I also believe that there are millions of peaceful Muslims in the world, but only because they don't adhere strongly to Quran teachings. The more true to the Quran, the more fanatic and dangerous.

But changing Iraq, as a spearhead to change the entire Middle East, is about culturally shifting to a more educated and tolerant Muslim world. And hopefully a more tolerant and less dangerous form of Islam. If they have economic opportunities, then perhaps they'll be less inclined toward suicide bombings. Although, UNLESS THE IDEOLOGY ITSELF CHANGES, then economic development will just mean more economically empowered terrorists, with more resources to wage holy war on the West.

I might also add --as you well know, but are eager to misrepresent-- my views are clearly NOT the same as those of the Bush administration.

And I see no basis for you to be so sure that Bush has an extreme view of wanting to "Kill 'em all", as you phrased it earlier, while making up quotes out of thin air.

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