so.... what, you are saying that the terrorist planning took the lonely 9 months dubya was in office? you are saying that our national defenses, militia, and intelligence crumbled in that 9 month period?

i simply don't understand how you can claim that none of this was clinton's (administration's) fault. again, i'm not placing all of the blame in one direction (something i've seen you complain about, but have only seen you do).

i'm simply stating what sounds logical, even if only based on the basic timeline.

the 9-11 strikes took years to plan. the national security beauracracies took years to falter.

this article details the many US failures over the 10 years leading to 9-11, of which dubya was in office just 9 months.

further, that same article points out the current admin's thoughts and plans for bin laden and al qaeda pre-9-11. granted, they're restrospectively weak, however, it shows just as much relative thought and dedication towards terrorism as clinton, in bush's then-brief term.

like i said, whomod, its honestly difficult to read credability into your thoughts sometimes. you're obviously intelligent and incredibly well read and versed on these topics, but... your hatred and personal opinion really overbear your posts sometimes.

we all have our biases, mine are just as wrong... thats simply human nature. but we should also all be able to step back for a second and look at whats there. and using that, the timeline, alone, is proof enough that this can't all be dubya's fault. in my mind, anyway

what do you see differently?

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