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Poor leadership has cost us so much in the last couple of years in blood & money.

Agreed. Somalia and Kosovo were a waste. I'll never forgive Clinton for it. And let's not forget about Clinton causing 9/11. Motherfucker should have gone after Bin Laden when he had the chance instead of getting blowjobs from skanks.


I was referring to the big strategical mistakes made with going into Iraq & how it was carried out. Somalia & Kosovo had smaller costs in terms of blood & money.



As Sen. John McCain repeated for the Nth time this morning on NBC's Meet the Press (after Russert's over and over rephrasing a narrow line of questioning, in a sleazy attempt to make McCain say Bush was wrong), McCain said that "Mistakes have been made in every war, including this one."
But that McCain still overall supports President Bush's actions in Iraq.

McCain repeated that the intelligence of every nation showed that Saddam had WMD's, so it wasn't a case of the U.S. reaching a conclusion that others had not.

And even though there were not massive arsenals of WMD's in Saddam's Iraq, post-invasion, the David Kay investigation showed that (1) Saddam was pursuing a WMD program, and planning to go into production at any point where U.N. sanctions would be lifted, (2) deadly viruses and chemical agents hidden in the refrigerators of Saddam's WMD scientists were found, and (3) that Saddam's government was on the verge of collapse, at which point these scientists and programs would have become a WMD arms bazaar, on sale to the highest bidder, which U.S. invasion prevented.

To say nothing of Saddam killing roughly 1 million of the surviving 25 million people in Iraq, burying them in several hundred mass graves that are still being unearthed across Iraq.
That alone is justification for U.S. invasion. And was mentioned in all Bush's speaches in the months leading up to invasion (despite liberals and the media spinning the fabricated argument that it was solely about finding WMD's in Iraq that was the reason for Iraq invasion).

In Somalia (after Clinton minimized U.S. forces and armament for politically correct reasons, to the point that the downed Army Rangers couldn't defend themselves, or allow other U.S. troops to mount a rescue), Clinton cut and ran, more concerned about keeping his poll numbers high than actually helping the Somalis.

And tiny little Kosovo alone, invaded by Clinton in 1999, cost 10 billion dollars.
In which we accidentally bombed the Chinese embassy in Serbia, by the way.


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Matter-eater Man said:Oh & I thought 9/11 happened while Bush was President.



But Bush was only in office barely 8 months.

It was 8 years of Clinton doing nothing to resolve Saddam Hussein's antagonism and U.N. violations, that set the stage for terrorism on 9-11.

Specifically Al-Qaida's stated "Declaration of Jihad" that U.S./"Crusader" troops were stationed in Saudi Arabia, in Bin Ladin's mind, violating the heart of Islam.
Clinton sat on this situation, when he had abundant justification (by Saddam Hussein's actions ) to invade and resolve the situation, removing the need for U.S. troops in Saudi Arabia.

Clinton had 8 years that he squandered.

George W. Bush had barely 8 months.

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His leadership in those first crucial minutes of the first tower getting hit consisted of him reading a children's book. He's been consistent with his leadership during the Iraq war & Katrina.



That's just an infantile argument, typical leftist whining, that offers blind criticism of Bush, with no suggestion for an alternative course of action.
Until the second plane hit the second tower, no one thought it was a terrorist attack, just a tragic accident.

Please explain what difference that tiny fraction of minutes would have made.

Would Bush have personally scrambled to an F-16 himself and personally shot down the plane before it hit the second WTC tower?
Bush was on the other side of the country.

If Bush somehow magically had been able to stop the second plane, you'd just be wailing that he killed all the Americans on the plane, and should have found a way to save them, bla bla bla.
What crap.

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