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From a New York Times story on Iraqi execution methods, set to be used on Saddam:
The victims are led up a set of steel stairs to a platform, about 15 feet above the ground, and nooses fashioned from one-and-a-quarter-inch-thick hemp ropes are slipped over their necks. The executioners are different each time, drawn from among employees of the Justice Ministry who volunteer for the job. Many have lost relatives or friends in insurgent attacks, officials said.
With a tug of two large levers, the steel trapdoors drop open and the victims fall through. The doors make a loud clanging sound as they slam against the apparatus, according to people who have witnessed hangings. The jarring noise echoes off the cold, unadorned concrete walls.
Death is supposed to come instantly--a doctor is on hand to certify it--and the bodies are removed to a cooler where they are held before being handed over to the victims' families. The entire process is recorded by a photographer and a video cameraman and the images are stored in a government archive.
You know, even if you oppose the death penalty, there's just something wrong about referring to the convicted mass murderer as a victim, the same term used to define the ones he killed.
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Saddam's Noose TightensIraqi court upholds decision to hang Saddam, other co-defendants within 30 days for killing 148 people
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Weren't they supposed to hang Saddam a month or two ago?
I call shinanagins!
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Unlike his victims, Saddam had a right to an appeal, which has now been heard, and denied.
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Unlike his victims, Saddam had a right to an appeal, which has now been heard, and denied.
 That is damn funny!!!
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This means he won't stand trial for gassing Kurds in the late 80s.
Still, its not like the man doesn't deserve it. Quite a moment in history, actually.
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I read online where Saddam is urging Iraq NOT to hate the US anymore.
Yeah, right...
That is probably some form of code where it really means, " Hate the US even MORE than before!"
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I suspect that Saddam is saying that in a desperate attempt to convince someone in the US that, if allowed to live, he could broker some sort of peace deal.
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It's a bit late for him to save his ass with hollow hints at peace.
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It looks increasingly like Saddam won't live through the weekend Saddam Hussein remained in U.S. custody Friday afternoon, but he was expected to be turned over to the Iraqi government imminently so that he can be hanged before New Year.
A U.S. military official told FOX late Friday that U.S. troops were expected to transfer custody before the day was out.
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Being "dictator" doesn't give you the right to torture and kill people.
Yeah it does since that's the kind of law they let him get away with.
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U.S. official: execution 'within a matter of hours' Saddam Hussein's date with death appears to be just hours away. The former president of Iraq will be hanged "within a matter of hours," a Bush administration official told FOX News on Friday.
"The final meetings have taken places," the official said, adding in Iraqis have requested Sddam be turned over to them. "The process is now in the final stage."
Earlier, the Associated Press reported via a top Iraqi official that Saddam would be hanged before 10 p.m. ET Friday night (6 a.m. Saturday in Baghdad).
The official witnesses to the impending execution gathered Friday in Baghdad's fortified Green Zone in final preparation for his hanging, and state television broadcast footage of his regime's atrocities.
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Wonder what he asked for his final meal to be? A happy meal?  Or a Devils' Food cake? 
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Hope he chokes on the bones!
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Ooops.. that would mess up the hanging!
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Wow...'s quite the Christmas present to the world.
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It's 9:11 right now...do you think they've done the deed? heh.
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U.S. Judge Refuses to Block Saddam Hussein's ExecutionA U.S. judge refused to stop Saddam Hussein's execution Friday, rejecting a last-minute court challenge by the former Iraqi president.
Hussein's lawyers filed the court challenge late Friday night, giving the judge just hours to act before the execution was expected to be carried out.
Hussein's attorneys argued that because the former Iraqi president also faced a civil lawsuit in Washington, he had rights as a civil defendant that would be violated if he is executed. He has not received notice of those rights and the consequences that the lawsuit would have on his estate, his attorneys said.
The Judge said U.S. courts do not have jurisdiction to interfere in another country's judicial process. The ruling can be appealed but was issued within an hour of the time Iraqi officials said they expected the execution to be carried out.
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This is worse than having to wait for the laundry to be dry!!! 
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Welcome to hell, Saddam.
I was just thinking of that very South Park episode!!
I hope Saddam gets a pineapple up his ass every night, as Hitler did in the movie, " Little Nicky" !!!
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I agree with Dave on this one.
I agree with Pary, as usual.
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Dancing on his grave won't bring anyone back to life.
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Dancing on his grave won't bring anyone back to life.
That's seriously one of the more thoughtful things I've ever heard you say in here. There's admitedly a sense of shame I think in having made light of this whole thing. I mean...he deserved this...but at the end of the day, it's yet another life that's been taken.
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Exactly.
This is one of the reasons I'm against the death penalty. Its barbaric and the one thing it will likely do in this case is make him a martyr and cause more damage in an already overwhelmingly bad situation.
Life in solitary confinement would have been the better choice. Its what a more civilized country would have done.
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That's a decidely Canadian opinion you have there, Rex.
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The death penalty is one of the few things I hate about America. Have you ever seen the list of countries that have it? Its a list we shouldn't be on.
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Exactly.
This is one of the reasons I'm against the death penalty. Its barbaric and the one thing it will likely do in this case is make him a martyr and cause more damage in an already overwhelmingly bad situation.
Life in solitary confinement would have been the better choice. Its what a more civilized country would have done.
The death penalty is the only way you can guarantee that a killer will never kill again. I'm very much for it.
In addition, it's been shown that areas that have the death penalty have less murders than places that do not have a death penalty. It is a deterrant that lowers the number of murders, and ultimately saves lives.
Regarding Saddam Hussein, his execution was sooner than I expected (news reports a few days ago said it would happen within 30 days).
The world is a better place without him.
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The death penalty is the only way you can guarantee that a killer will never kill again. I'm very much for it.
It's also the only way to guarantee that a child molester will never molest a child again. Why aren't child molesters executed? Because killing is the worst thing you can do? Oh... whoops!
What about prison for life? Is it not an option because it's more expensive? (Is it more expensive? I remember reading once that it actually costs more to use the lethal injection than to sustain someone in prison for life, but I can't remember where.) In that case, isn't it ridiculous to kill someone over a few bucks?
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In addition, it's been shown that areas that have the death penalty have less murders than places that do not have a death penalty. It is a deterrant that lowers the number of murders, and ultimately saves lives.
I was once explained the opposite: a psychologist told me death penalty is seen as an "easy way out" for criminals. If you've done something bad enough to get the death penalty, then you've got nothing to lose. A serial killer might as well murder 20 more people, the punishment will be the same.
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Like Pariah said, there's no way he would have killed again. The world isn't a better place: another murder's been committed.
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Would this also be appropriate?
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I personally find the death penalty quite distasteful. Yeah, Saddam's dead, but I'm not partying about it. I'm not surprised by it, but it doesn't give me any sort of satisfaction to know that he's dead now. As was said before, it's not gonna bring anybody back. And weren't there already plenty of reasons a normal person wouldn't want to become a crazed dictator with genocidal tendencies? This one was a long time coming, and again, not at all surprising, but I'll let someone else mull over whether the execution was right or wrong. It's not making me smile is all.
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His death is also not necessarily the end. Bizarre as it may sound to us there is a very real chance Saddam will become a martyr.
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The death penalty is the only way you can guarantee that a killer will never kill again. I'm very much for it.
It's also the only way to guarantee that a child molester will never molest a child again. Why aren't child molesters executed? Because killing is the worst thing you can do? Oh... whoops!
What about prison for life? Is it not an option because it's more expensive? (Is it more expensive? I remember reading once that it actually costs more to use the lethal injection than to sustain someone in prison for life, but I can't remember where.) In that case, isn't it ridiculous to kill someone over a few bucks?
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In addition, it's been shown that areas that have the death penalty have less murders than places that do not have a death penalty. It is a deterrant that lowers the number of murders, and ultimately saves lives.
I was once explained the opposite: a psychologist told me death penalty is seen as an "easy way out" for criminals. If you've done something bad enough to get the death penalty, then you've got nothing to lose. A serial killer might as well murder 20 more people, the punishment will be the same.
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The world is a better place without him.
Like Pariah said, there's no way he would have killed again. The world isn't a better place: another murder's been committed.
Mxy is correct.
This will not act as a deterrent. Solitary confinement for life would have stopped him from killing. This does nothing good for Iraq or the world. We went into Iraq to end this kind of barbarism, this makes me think they are not ready to move past that.
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I can see legitimate arguments against the death penalty. In this case, however, it wasn't our decision. It was the Iraqi people's.
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You'd think the place had had enough of death.
I was disapointed to hear on CNN that public officials danced around his body and shouted Shia oaths.
So much for impartial due process. This was vengeance, not justice.
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