I'm a big guy. A really big guy. I'm strong enough to flip over a car. I have two black belts. I have been brawling for fun, sport and necessity since I was a little kid, and I have never gotten my ass kicked (well -- not worse than the other guys anyway). I light myself on fire and throw myself off cliffs and through brick walls for shits and giggles.
And yet, if I get into a fight with someone and that person pulls a gun, it's pretty much over. End of story, end of Jack.
Come at me with a knife, I'm cool. I'll get cut, but I'm cool. Come at me with an axe, I probably won't even get cut. Come at me with a chainsaw, and the only real danger is that I'll laugh myself unconscious.
Come at me with a gun, and unless you're dumb enough to let me get in arm's reach, I'm dead. I'm not bulletproof. I know this.
The bad guys, sometimes, carry guns.
I grew up in Alaska, out in the middle of the woods with the bears and the wolves and the porcupines (and to be honest I had more trouble with porcupines than anything else). The idea of being too far away from a gun at any time was just stupid.
I don't like guns. I've practiced with rifles, shotguns and a .44 revolver just enough to be confident in my ability to use one if I really have to, but I really don't like the damn things.
Still, with my little sister living in Alaska again (I have no idea why anybody would move back -- all year long it's either snow or mosquitoes -- and there are maybe two comicbook shops in the entire state), I'm glad she has some guns. Big ones.
I see very little that's romantic or noble or cool about about guns. I think this modern habit of carrying around a gun so you can pretend to be a bad-ass is very wussy. Real men are willing to take a beating. Guns don't give beatings, they just kill.
But until I think of a way to deal with either a brown bear or an gun-wielding idiot without resorting to the use of firearms, I'm afraid I'll have to regard them as a necessary evil.
quote:Originally posted by THE Franta: And why handguns? hand guns are just easy to hide for crimes.
That's why I have a hand cannon, a Desert Eagle .357 automatic. Most people piss themselves when they just see the sight of it. And trust me...I'd need a fucking duffel bag almost to conceal the damn thing.
.357 is a pussy gun.The Desert Eagle also comes in a 44 mag version.Now there's a mans gun.
quote:Originally posted by Jack, the Little Death: For me, it's like this:
I'm a big guy. A really big guy. I'm strong enough to flip over a car. I have two black belts. I have been brawling for fun, sport and necessity since I was a little kid, and I have never gotten my ass kicked (well -- not worse than the other guys anyway). I light myself on fire and throw myself off cliffs and through brick walls for shits and giggles.
And yet, if I get into a fight with someone and that person pulls a gun, it's pretty much over. End of story, end of Jack.
Come at me with a knife, I'm cool. I'll get cut, but I'm cool. Come at me with an axe, I probably won't even get cut. Come at me with a chainsaw, and the only real danger is that I'll laugh myself unconscious.
Come at me with a gun, and unless you're dumb enough to let me get in arm's reach, I'm dead. I'm not bulletproof. I know this.
The bad guys, sometimes, carry guns.
I grew up in Alaska, out in the middle of the woods with the bears and the wolves and the porcupines (and to be honest I had more trouble with porcupines than anything else). The idea of being too far away from a gun at any time was just stupid.
I don't like guns. I've practiced with rifles, shotguns and a .44 revolver just enough to be confident in my ability to use one if I really have to, but I really don't like the damn things.
Still, with my little sister living in Alaska again (I have no idea why anybody would move back -- all year long it's either snow or mosquitoes -- and there are maybe two comicbook shops in the entire state), I'm glad she has some guns. Big ones.
I see very little that's romantic or noble or cool about about guns. I think this modern habit of carrying around a gun so you can pretend to be a bad-ass is very wussy. Real men are willing to take a beating. Guns don't give beatings, they just kill.
But until I think of a way to deal with either a brown bear or an gun-wielding idiot without resorting to the use of firearms, I'm afraid I'll have to regard them as a necessary evil.
At first I thought this was someone mimicing your Id then I saw it wasnt. Dude,Ive seen your picture on the DC boards you aint big. And now the laughing begins...BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HHA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
quote:Originally posted by Lothar of The Hill People:
quote:Originally posted by HEROKILLER:
quote:Originally posted by THE Franta: And why handguns? hand guns are just easy to hide for crimes.
That's why I have a hand cannon, a Desert Eagle .357 automatic. Most people piss themselves when they just see the sight of it. And trust me...I'd need a fucking duffel bag almost to conceal the damn thing.
.357 is a pussy gun.The Desert Eagle also comes in a 44 mag version.Now there's a mans gun.
I've owned a .44 Mag Colt revolver in the past, but it's got recoil that would tear the arm outta it's shoulder socket...no accuracy. Well...let's just say you'd have to be an ox to hold one down to get a decent degree of it. Sure...it was a pocket Howitzer, but in the long run it's just a really big imposing gun that's extremely heavy.
Then, my dad clued me into (he's had one for years) the Ruger Super Six .357 revolver...I like that because it was cheaper shooting, plus you can interchange and shoot .38s as well as .357s. I made the upgrade to the Desert Eagle because I just like automatics (I owned a set of .45s until recently, which I'll admit was my only impulse gun buy...I'm a huge fan of the Shadow..lol! ).
On a similiar note...what's with all the movies these days? Everybody carries twin .45s...it's almost as bad as it was in the 1980's, and everyone carried Mac-10s. I mean, I know the trend got it's start in Hong Kong flicks, and hey...I love John Woo's The Killer and Hard Boiled as much as the next guy...but give it rest, Hollywood.
quote:Originally posted by Jack, the Little Death: For me, it's like this:
I'm a big guy. A really big guy. I'm strong enough to flip over a car. I have two black belts. I have been brawling for fun, sport and necessity since I was a little kid, and I have never gotten my ass kicked (well -- not worse than the other guys anyway). I light myself on fire and throw myself off cliffs and through brick walls for shits and giggles.
Funny thing is here in the psych ward I work for I see alot of people REALLY do the things Jack claims to have done...but they aint bragging about it once their meds kick in.
quote:Originally posted by HEROKILLER: On a similiar note...what's with all the movies these days? Everybody carries twin .45s...it's almost as bad as it was in the 1980's, and everyone carried Mac-10s. I mean, I know the trend got it's start in Hong Kong flicks, and hey...I love John Woo's The Killer and Hard Boiled as much as the next guy...but give it rest, Hollywood.[/QB]
I allways get a laugh out of seeing some hollywood badass holding his gun sideways and shooting. I'VE tried shooting that way and I can't hit a damn thing.
Your right about the 44 being a hand cannon.Unless your hunting elephants the 44 has no real practicall purpose.
....actually i learned to shoot my 9mm sideways, for said reason i saw it in all the movies and tried it and couldnt hit a damn thing, 100 boxes of ammo later, i can hit a can 96% of the time, but usually i shoot old fridgerators so missing is almost impossible....
Several years ago I was target shooting with this friend of mine. He had a little .380 auto and he kept in his back pocket. The day we were target shooting he thought he would be cool and try some fast draw shooting. On his first attempt he grabed the gun in his back pocket and shot managed to shoot himself in the ass. I still remember him hobbling off to his car holding his hand over his wounded ass and yelling "I shot my fucking ass." I offered to drive him to the hospitall but he said no he didn't want me laughing at him all the way to the hospital. He made itto the the hospial and told the e.r. nurse that he had sat on a nail. I guess they belived him.
quote:Originally posted by Lothar of The Hill People: Several years ago I was target shooting with this friend of mine. He had a little .380 auto and he kept in his back pocket. The day we were target shooting he thought he would be cool and try some fast draw shooting. On his first attempt he grabed the gun in his back pocket and shot managed to shoot himself in the ass. I still remember him hobbling off to his car holding his hand over his wounded ass and yelling "I shot my fucking ass." I offered to drive him to the hospitall but he said no he didn't want me laughing at him all the way to the hospital. He made itto the the hospial and told the e.r. nurse that he had sat on a nail. I guess they belived him.
LMAO!
...which is better than shooting my ass off, I guess.
Me and bsams went to high school with a guy, who one day the cops found hobbling down this country backroad. He'd been shot in the foot, and proceeded to tell the cops that he was just walking along this road (keep in mind, this is fuckin' BFE we're talking about), and some dude jumped outta the bushes and shot him.
Come to find out later that this is what actually happened:
He was trying to break into a house, and had a gun in his pocket. As he's climbing into the window, the damn thing goes off and shoots him in the foot. If that ain't poetic justice, I don't know what is.
Quote: First Amongst Daves said: I actually like the idea of bow hunting, not for anything really to do with gun safety although that is also an issue, but because it seems not quite as destructive as firearms hunting and as you say more skilful.
I'm a knife hunter myself. I can never work up the desire to use a gun in the wilderness while hunting game cuz' it kinda destroys the challenge. But not everyone is as versatile in the woods. Hunters need to use guns to provide food--At least with any sort of efficiency. That's pretty much the whole point of being tool-users really. And don't you think it would be less painful for the animal if a gun was involved? Knives and arrows leave much more lasting pain before death. Bullets, on the other hand, decrease the time-span of that suffering.
Quote: THE Franta said: I dont believe I have ever heard of guns actually saving someone live in a home...more often than not an accident occurs and kills an innocent.
Research by award-winning criminologist Gary Kleck and Marc Gertz reveals that guns are used for self-defense as often as 2.5 million times a year -- three to five times more often than they are misused by criminals
Quote: First Amongst Daves said: I actually like the idea of bow hunting, not for anything really to do with gun safety although that is also an issue, but because it seems not quite as destructive as firearms hunting and as you say more skilful.
I'm a knife hunter myself. I can never work up the desire to use a gun in the wilderness while hunting game cuz' it kinda destroys the challenge. But not everyone is as versatile in the woods. Hunters need to use guns to provide food--At least with any sort of efficiency. That's pretty much the whole point of being tool-users really. And don't you think it would be less painful for the animal if a gun was involved? Knives and arrows leave much more lasting pain before death. Bullets, on the other hand, decrease the time-span of that suffering.
Quote: First Amongst Daves said: I actually like the idea of bow hunting, not for anything really to do with gun safety although that is also an issue, but because it seems not quite as destructive as firearms hunting and as you say more skilful.
I'm a knife hunter myself. I can never work up the desire to use a gun in the wilderness while hunting game cuz' it kinda destroys the challenge. But not everyone is as versatile in the woods. Hunters need to use guns to provide food--At least with any sort of efficiency. That's pretty much the whole point of being tool-users really. And don't you think it would be less painful for the animal if a gun was involved? Knives and arrows leave much more lasting pain before death. Bullets, on the other hand, decrease the time-span of that suffering.
I... am TUROK!
"Ah good. Now I'm on the internet clearly saying I like tranny cleavage. This shouldn't get me harassed at all." -- Lothar of the Hill People
It's funny, cuz' that's what this one dude is called where I used to go for dear; we both went to the same reserve to hunt. He's a great shot and he's really good at making knives and he's Native American, so people started calling him Turok. He uses a rifle, but he more often used a 55mm DA bow.
Quote: First Amongst Daves said: I actually like the idea of bow hunting, not for anything really to do with gun safety although that is also an issue, but because it seems not quite as destructive as firearms hunting and as you say more skilful.
I'm a knife hunter myself. I can never work up the desire to use a gun in the wilderness while hunting game cuz' it kinda destroys the challenge. But not everyone is as versatile in the woods. Hunters need to use guns to provide food--At least with any sort of efficiency. That's pretty much the whole point of being tool-users really. And don't you think it would be less painful for the animal if a gun was involved? Knives and arrows leave much more lasting pain before death. Bullets, on the other hand, decrease the time-span of that suffering.
I... am TUROK!
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First Amongst Daves said: I actually like the idea of bow hunting, not for anything really to do with gun safety although that is also an issue, but because it seems not quite as destructive as firearms hunting and as you say more skilful.
I'm a knife hunter myself. I can never work up the desire to use a gun in the wilderness while hunting game cuz' it kinda destroys the challenge.
