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ACTION COMICS #814
Written by Chuck Austen; art by Ivan Reis and Marc Campos; cover by Arthur Adams
The new creative team of Chuck Austen, Ivan Reis & Marc Campos and cover artist Arthur Adams takes over! A day in the life for anyone else would be ordinary, but not for Superman! There are robbers to catch, children to save, and the hordes of Apokolips to stop. And Darkseid and his minions provide only a hint of the threats on the way to challenge the Man of Steel. Plus, Lois tries to hide that Clark's job at the Daily Planet is in jeopardy!
SUPERMAN | 32pg. | Color | $2.50
ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN #627
Written by Greg Rucka; art by Matthew Clark and Nelson; cover by Gene Ha
The debut of new team of acclaimed writer Greg Rucka, Matthew Clark & Nelson and cover artist Gene Ha! An old foe comes to Metropolis with murder — and something much more sinister — on his mind. Meanwhile, Clark's job troubles continue as he rides along with the Special Crimes Unit.
SUPERMAN | 32pg. | Color | $2.50
Aaaaaaaah, linkage between the titles...
Now if only the origin could be as good and not BR BS...
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What the fuck are you talking about?
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Read what I posted, it's right there for anyone with eyes  The two titles are connected, not separate.
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That'll be less confusing thankfully.
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Jim Lee confirmed that it was all one reality last week when he did his "controlling Newsarama" thing.
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A better post ACTION COMICS #814  Written by Chuck Austen; art by Ivan Reis and Marc Campos; cover by Arthur Adams The new creative team of Chuck Austen, Ivan Reis & Marc Campos and cover artist Arthur Adams takes over! A day in the life for anyone else would be ordinary, but not for Superman! There are robbers to catch, children to save, and the hordes of Apokolips to stop. And Darkseid and his minions provide only a hint of the threats on the way to challenge the Man of Steel. Plus, Lois tries to hide that Clark's job at the Daily Planet is in jeopardy! SUPERMAN | 32pg. | Color | $2.50 On Sale April 14th, 2004 ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN #627  Written by Greg Rucka; art by Matthew Clark and Nelson; cover by Gene Ha The debut of new team of acclaimed writer Greg Rucka, Matthew Clark & Nelson and cover artist Gene Ha! An old foe comes to Metropolis with murder — and something much more sinister — on his mind. Meanwhile, Clark's job troubles continue as he rides along with the Special Crimes Unit. SUPERMAN | 32pg. | Color | $2.50 On Sale April 21st, 2004 SUPERMAN #204  Written by Brian Azzarello; art and cover by Jim Lee and Scott Williams Fan favorites Brian Azzarello, Jim Lee & Scott Williams take on the Man of Steel in an extra-sized issue! As people around the world disappear, a new world threat tests Superman like never before reveals itself! Plus, the introduction of Father Leone, a figure who will play an important role in coming months. SUPERMAN | 40pg. | Color | $2.50 On Sale April 28th, 2004 SUPERMAN/BATMAN #9  Written by Jeph Loeb; art and cover by Michael Turner Jeph Loeb and Michael Turner continue the thrilling saga "The Supergirl From Krypton!" The mysterious girl trapped inside the Kryptonite meteor that fell to Earth is taken to the Fortress of Solitude, where Superman and Batman try to teach her to fit into our society. But on Apokolips, someone else has plans for her, as do the Amazons! DC UNIVERSE | 32pg. | Color | $2.95 On Sale April 21st, 2004 And link to the rest: DC Comics- April
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In other words, there's not one of them worth reading.
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You're not even gonna get S/B with your beloved Kryptonian Supergirl? I knew it, all your whinning was for nothing Next you'll say that DC has no balls even though they're giving you a Kryptonian Supergirl and the SA Superman in BR. Can't you just read those two and leave the rest for everyone else? Does every comic with the S have to follow your idea of what a Superman comic should be?
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You're not even gonna get S/B with your beloved Kryptonian Supergirl?
I knew it, all your whinning was for nothing
Next you'll say that DC has no balls even though they're giving you a Kryptonian Supergirl and the SA Superman in BR.
Can't you just read those two and leave the rest for everyone else?
Does every comic with the S have to follow your idea of what a Superman comic should be?
Well now, I'm a fan of the Kryptonian Supergirl.
The Silver-Age Kryptonian Supergirl, Kara Zor-El.
However, that character is dead, gone, not even in continuity anymore. So, I'll live off of archives and back issues.
At this point, it's rather stupid to bring back a Kryptonian Supergirl,seeing as how for the past 20 years we've been beaten over the head with "Kal-El is the only survivor of Krypton, and that is how it shall be".
After that earth angel crap was over, We still had a perfectly servicable Supergirl in Linda Danvers, and the books sales were on an upswing, but DC had to end the book so they could needlessly bring back more of the silver age, most likely leading to a Hypercrisis in 2005. Because at the rate they're going, this shit is going have to be explained away soon.
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Can't you just read those two and leave the rest for everyone else?
Does every comic with the S have to follow your idea of what a Superman comic should be?
Wise words, MOTA. Wise words. They sound awfully familiar, thought. If only you'd understand them...
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I don't know about the rest of you but I'm gonna give Jim's Superman a shot. The art looks sweet! I hope Az's story is good too.
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Can't you just read those two and leave the rest for everyone else?
Does every comic with the S have to follow your idea of what a Superman comic should be?
Wise words, MOTA. Wise words. They sound awfully familiar, thought. If only you'd understand them...
I understand them perfectly well.
People like KKK, Mark Waid and Eddie Berganza don't...
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So you don't want the version of Superman you like to be the only one in the main books anymore?
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So you don't want the version of Superman you like to be the only one in the main books anymore?
The main books should only have ONE Superman.
Crapright is not a main book, it's an ego project a whinny Silver Age fanboy came up with by ripping off ideas he took from other people's work.
That can be its own thing without affecting the main books, but people like KKK, Waid and Berganza don't get it...
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This is not about Birthright.
Why must all three titles be about the same version of Superman? You can get one monthly Flash comic, but you MUST get three with Superman? And if there were two books, two, and if there were five books, five? What's the big problem with having a monthly regular series about a version of Superman you don't like? Is it so hard to ignore it and let other people get their damn version too?
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The only reason he has so many titles in the first place was to expand on that one character.
Even in the Bronze Age, when someone wanted to tell a story about the Earth 2 Superman, they placed an advisory at the start of it.
"This is not about the Clark Kent of Earth 1 that works at WGBS, this is about the Clark Kent of Earth 2 that works at the Daily Star".
There's never been such a thing as a monthly Superman comics that was exclusively published for an alternate reality Superman.
There were exceptions made back then solely because the extra Superman existed.
He doesn't exist now, so he doesn't need to invade the one, true Superman's comics every now and then.
Now the BR Superman can have his own series independant of the other three titles...
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The only reason he has so many titles in the first place was to expand on that one character.
Don't you mean to expand on the money they can make from the most known character in comicdom? Face it. DC is a business and is out to make money. The $ is the main motivation for publishing books, not to expand on characters.
What's so wrong with three different books with three different Supermans if they don't interact with each other and have their own, seperate stories? Just come out and admit that you're a selfish bastard who only wants what you desire to be published. I say give the fans their Supermen in three different books as long as they don't cross over. Give Silver Age fans their uberpowerful Superman with the super pets. Give Golden Age fans the less powerful original incarnation. And let you have the modern Superman who sticks to the Byrne origin. Why can't you be happy with that?
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MOTY: There were exceptions made back then solely because the extra Superman existed.
He doesn't exist now, so he doesn't need to invade the one, true Superman's comics every now and then.
Um, exsqueeze me? What? If there's a "one, true Superman," then it's that guy who "doesn't exist now." You know, the one who appeared in 1938 and started all this? The guy who's name became the job description? All other Superman incarnations are just riffs off of him.
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The only reason he has so many titles in the first place was to expand on that one character.
Even in the Bronze Age, when someone wanted to tell a story about the Earth 2 Superman, they placed an advisory at the start of it.
"This is not about the Clark Kent of Earth 1 that works at WGBS, this is about the Clark Kent of Earth 2 that works at the Daily Star".
There's never been such a thing as a monthly Superman comics that was exclusively published for an alternate reality Superman.
There were exceptions made back then solely because the extra Superman existed.
He doesn't exist now, so he doesn't need to invade the one, true Superman's comics every now and then.
That has nothing to do with what I said. That's not even relevant. Just because it hasn't been done or it was intended one way originally it doesn't mean it should happen. That's how progress happens, you know.
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That's all I'm saying. Is it that much of a stretch to think that each title should be completely independent from the other, with a different version of Superman each so everybody gets what they want instead of one sector of fandom only? I insist: you get one Flash title, one JSA title, one Titans title. Why can't you get one Superman title?
(what comes next is completely separate from what I said before, so don't answer that part only thinking you're answering to the whole message)
The only reason DC publishes more than one Superman title is because the character is rentable. I think that should be taken advantage of.
The linkage thing during the Jurgens years is one example of how to take advantage of the multiple titles that worked for a long time and stayed even longer.
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Um, exsqueeze me? What? If there's a "one, true Superman," then it's that guy who "doesn't exist now." You know, the one who appeared in 1938 and started all this? The guy who's name became the job description? All other Superman incarnations are just riffs off of him.
Keep in mind that Byrne's version is an extrapolation of the original.
In essense he replaced the Silver Age rip off (which changed the entire concept) with a version that was more faitful to the original.
Waid is doing the same, but he's replacing the version that's more faitful to the original with one that's more faitful to the SA rip off.
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Mxy: the three main titles are the main titles for a reason, so no, they can't each go in their own separate direction just to please some people. They've always been part of the same continuity, even before Crisis, with a few exceptions here and there. There's no reason to turn the exception into the rule just to please a few people. On the other hand, those same people can take BR and choke I just don't want that piece of crap to affect the other three titles. DC is completely free to EXPAND on BR and spin off two more titles from it, giving three titles to me and three titles to you...
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the three main titles are the main titles for a reason, so no, they can't each go in their own separate direction just to please some people.
Okay. Read what you just said out loud, and try not to make it sound insane.
Yeah, Superman, Bat-Man, Spider-Man and The X-Men have more than one title for a reason. It's the same reason why they're published regurlarly in more countries than other superheroes, and why they have more movies, tv shows, action figures and video games than other superheroes: THEY MAKE LOTS OF MONEY.
"they can't each go in their own separate direction just to please some people."
just to please some people. [british accent]"Oh, it's just to please some people... why bother?"[/british accent]
Those people, apparently, are less important than you.
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They've always been part of the same continuity, even before Crisis, with a few exceptions here and there.
Yeah, that's probably right. That's the way it's always been. So?
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There's no reason to turn the exception into the rule just to please a few people.
Oh, you don't know that it's a few people. All you know is that you're not in that group, so they're not important.
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Why do you automatically assume that everyone that disagrees with you on anything has to love Birthright? You have an extremely simplistic vision of things, do you know that?
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DC is completely free to EXPAND on BR and spin off two more titles from it, giving three titles to me and three titles to you...
To me?
Why do you say to me?
When have I said I like Birthright?
For the tenth fucking time, this is not about Birthright or Man of Steel, this is about the fucking principle of not being a selfish hypocrit like you are. And I don't use the words selfish and hypocrit like random insults as you'd use them, I actually mean them. You're selfish because you want your version to be the only one in the three main titles because you believe it's the definitive version (I'm not arguing that, that's another topic... I'm just saying that you could be wrong), and you're an hypocrit because you insult other people for trying to impose their version when you're doing the exact same thing, and more. Heck, you insult people for even liking the Silver Age.
I INSIST: Why must you have three Superman titles every month? Right now, you get none since you hate everything that's been done in the past four year (rightly so), so getting only one title with the version you blindly adore would be an improvement, wouldn't it?
Is it possible that you're desperately trying to relive the Jurgens linkage years just like others desperately try to relive the Silver Age? Think about that for a second, please.
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Um, exsqueeze me? What? If there's a "one, true Superman," then it's that guy who "doesn't exist now." You know, the one who appeared in 1938 and started all this? The guy who's name became the job description? All other Superman incarnations are just riffs off of him.
Keep in mind that Byrne's version is an extrapolation of the original.
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In essense he replaced the Silver Age rip off (which changed the entire concept) with a version that was more faitful to the original.
Waid is doing the same, but he's replacing the version that's more faitful to the original with one that's more faitful to the SA rip off.
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And this has exactly what to do with what I said? Not a damn thing.
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I INSIST: Why must you have three Superman titles every month? Right now, you get none since you hate everything that's been done in the past four year (rightly so), so getting only one title with the version you blindly adore would be an improvement, wouldn't it?
Is it possible that you're desperately trying to relive the Jurgens linkage years just like others desperately try to relive the Silver Age? Think about that for a second, please.
Becuase there's no reason to make it another way, Mxy, other than to please some people that have been complaining over 17 years for the lack of super pets and other stupidities that were taken out for a reason.
Like I said, if those people want their own Superman so much then DC can give it to them in other forms that don't affect the three monthly titles...
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For the record, Egomaniac (I'm not even going to waste my time calling you "MOTA" anymore), Superman & Batman isn't worth my time to read. Jeph Loeb hasn't written anything worthwhile since mid-2001, and not even the considerable talents of McGuinness and Turner can disguise the weakness of his writing. He's completely lost any sense of how to successfully revive pre-Crisis Superman elements and as of "OWAW," he has absolutely no idea how to write a decent story anymore. The man's become a parody of himself. And you think I should waste my money on that? Please. DC's botched Supergirl TWICE already (Matrix/Linda, Cir-El); I have no faith in their ability to pull off a revival of Kara (be she Kryptonian or Argoan).
Secondly, I stopped buying Birthright when I ditched DC last year. In fact, DC's disgraceful treatment of Birthright was the final straw for me. It was a great story, a terrific melding of all the different eras of Superman (yes, including the Byrne/Jurgens era you so sycophantically assert is inherently superior to anything on the planet), and I got sick of seeing DC treat it like the plague. John Byrne was given DC's full support when he updated Superman in 1986, so why shouldn't Waid have gotten that support? Instead he got knifed in the back, and you and your fellow zealots' incessant bashing and shrieking was no help, either. Add to that the cancellation scare that erupted circa issue #5 (or perhaps you don't remember that?), and I got tired of watching something I was enjoying get mauled and defamed for no reason. I only stuck it out for Trinity (another excellent book that got unjustly skinned alive) because it was just three issues, and I was already two-thirds into it. Waid and Wagner poured their hearts and best efforts into those stories and paid the character the highest possible honors, and what thanks did they get? Selfish screaming. Endless bleating about how evil they were to even DARE to contradict the Great God Byrne. I'm still ticked about that, and I don't see my attitude changing any time soon.
As for the mainline books, they aren't worth my time. it's just going to be more of the same formulaic, repetitive, soap-opera/lockstep continuity crap that's been the Superman books' stock-in-trade since 1993. I have no reason to believe that Azzarello, Rucka, and Austen are going to better the books (and I already know that Austen's Superman is going to be utter bilge, based on his past work). I'm sick of getting the exact same gruel shoveled at me over and over again. That's partly why I loved Trinity and enjoyed what I read of Birthright; they were a breath of fresh air. And as for your "those who don't share MY vision of Superman can all go choke" line (which you've repeated at least twice now)...you once again prove my point about you being an intolerant, hate-spewing sycophant. You want to dictate what other people's likes and opinions should be, and you're hell-bent on destroying anyone who doesn't toe your "Byrne/Jurgens only" line. You WON'T respect the opinions of others, and you hypocritically screech about how YOUR Superman is infallible and must never be changed while castigating those who have their own favorite incarnations. More and more, you show what utter filth you really are, and you give me more reasons to hate your guts.
Go ahead and enjoy your regurgitated, formulaic gruel. But don't you DARE tell me I have to enjoy it, too.
And furthermore: Byrne's Superman was NOT faithful to "the concept" (which you've already proven your hatred of, with your "Siegel and Shuster got Superman all wrong, Byrne/Jurgens in the only version to get it right" line). Siegel and Shuster's Krypton was a utopia. Their Clark was a nerdy mask for Superman. Their Superman was never a jock. They fully intended to make him Superboy as a kid (albeit one who was a practical joker who loved playing pranks on people). Their Luthor was a public enemy of the worst kind. Byrne trashed all of this stuff and replaced it with what he and Wolfman cooked up. What was in the Silver Age was, while sometimes excessive, completely in the spirit of what Siegel and Shuster started. Byrne's version tossed out a lot of what Siegel and Shuster did and replaced it with his own vision. You don't really give a damn about "the concept." What you're REALLY sticking up for is BYRNE'S INTERPRETATION OF THE CONCEPT, and you know it. So shut your mouth and keep it shut. You're not fooling anybody with your lies and doubletalk.
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He doesn't exist now, so he doesn't need to invade the one, true Superman's comics every now and then.
Um, exsqueeze me? What? If there's a "one, true Superman," then it's that guy who "doesn't exist now." You know, the one who appeared in 1938 and started all this? The guy who's name became the job description? All other Superman incarnations are just riffs off of him.
Oh, but you see, Egomaniac here has said quite a few times in the past that Siegel and Shuster got Superman all wrong, and that only the Byrne/Jurgens version got the character right. He's been very blatant in his assertion that Siegel and Shuster didn't know what they were doing and that "they didn't pay any attention to all the other angles" that Byrne, is his godlike wisdom, illuminated for all the poor, unwashed masses who actually respect the past versions of Superman. To him, the "ONE TRUE SUPERMAN" didn't exist until Man of Steel, and everything before that was just mindless garbage.
In other words. he's unfathomably stupid and intolerant.
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Every time you open your "mouth" you just make me more right, KKK.
You dare accuse me of wanting formulatic storytelling when it's people like you who want characters origins to be retold over and over and over and over and over again.
Hell, just look at your "they got Supergirl wrong twice" bs...
Supergirl was wrong the FIRST time.
ONE Kryptonian survivor, it's that simple.
Five year olds have been able to grasp the concept for 17 years now...
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 So far this thread is two guys having a heated debate about Superman and Supergirl comic books. Does anyone else find this to be funny as hell?
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I'm waiting on another Crisis.
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Becuase there's no reason to make it another way, Mxy, other than to please some people that have been complaining over 17 years for the lack of super pets and other stupidities that were taken out for a reason.
Then why is there one Flash title, one Green Lantern title, one Hawkman title, etc? Because of the same people? Yeah, that makes sense.
I haven't been complaining for over 17 years about lack of Superpets, I've never complained about that, and I wouldn't mind having one Superman title with a version I'd enjoy and two with other versions I can ignore.
Why can't you accept that your opinion and that of the ones that think exactly like you is not the only valid one in the world? Having an OPINION means accepting that there's a chance that you might be wrong, otherwise it would be a dogma.
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Like I said, if those people want their own Superman so much then DC can give it to them in other forms that don't affect the three monthly titles...
Oh, for fuck's sake, that's just fucking insane!!! I swear that's the craziest thing I've ever read from you, and you've said some crazy shit.
WHY must the three main titles be your way and your way only? WHY?!
You believe that's the one true Superman, fine, okay, whatever, I get that. But that's AN OPINION, not an universal truth, so why can't you leave space for others to get their versions in the main titles?
Honestly, if there was more than one version of Superman being published at the time, I wouldn't care if they're published in the three main titles or in three new titles. It's just a name and a number. What annoys me is that you MUST have the three main titles for you, as if other conceptions of Superman were less valid than the one you grew up with.
You still haven't answered why you NEED three Superman titles every month and why they MUST be the three main titles (Superman, Action, Adventures). Really, dude, that's not normal. It's prety fucked up, in fact.
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"Becuase there's no reason to make it another way other than to please some people..."
Geez... If you really don't see how fucking insane that sounds, you really have a problem.
You haven't said anything that disproves my theory that you desperately want to relive the Superman era you grew up reading just like some want to relive the Silver Age. It doesn't matter if it ended four years or two decades ago, IT'S OVER. You feel it's unfair that it ended, yeah, well, guess what, hardcore Silver Age fans feel the exact same way about the end of the Silver Age. You're just another old man clinging to his childhood.
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So far this thread is two guys having a heated debate about Superman and Supergirl comic books. Does anyone else find this to be funny as hell?
So I take it you missed the 14 page Supergirl thread a couple weeks back, in which the same cast of characters debated about the same cast of characters.
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Oh my! I'm 2 months behind on my Superman comics and now this! Damn computer keeps cutting more and more into my comic reading time! I think I'm going to like this different version different comic approach. Diversity is the spice of life! That's why Quesada promotes donkey fucking in all of his finer comics kids! 
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Joey From Friends said:
So far this thread is two guys having a heated debate about Superman and Supergirl comic books. Does anyone else find this to be funny as hell?
Always!
I respect their difference of opinion but they should respect each other's opinion as well as they should respect mine even more so as I FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT SUPERMAN SHOULD BE DEPICTED NUDE IN ALL 3 OF HIS COMICS! Why in the hell should Lois be the only one that gets to see Supes sans costume?
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First National Bastard said:
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Joey From Friends said:
So far this thread is two guys having a heated debate about Superman and Supergirl comic books. Does anyone else find this to be funny as hell?
So I take it you missed the 14 page Supergirl thread a couple weeks back, in which the same cast of characters debated about the same cast of characters.
We need a link PLEASE!
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Mxy, it doesn't matter WHY Superman has three titles and Flash only has one, what matters is the CONTENT of the titles.
These three titles take place in ONE single continuity. You don't like it, don't read them.
You have no right to tell people who do like them to be in one continuity that they can't do that anymore and have to give one up for those that don't like it...
Comics are like a Rorschach test; everyone has a different opinion on what they are and can be...
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MOTA, a rarely reply to you because of your stupidity. Your last response is a perfect example. You fail to listen to what anyone has to say if it goes against your own cemented views. Why should DC just pander to the current continuity whores when there are just as many, maybe even more, fans out there who would buy a more Silver Age inspired Superman book out there? And since the Silver Age came first, wouldn't that mean, according to your logic, that that is the audience DC should be more concerned with. Why waste time and money to give you and your friends what you want? Have you ever considered that maybe a single title for the modern age Supes is exactly what is needed to make the character more focused and developed? I'm sure you haven't because you are a selfish, greedy bastard that must have it all your way. Let people who are just as big fans of Superman, a lot of them for a much longer time, get what they want out of the character too. They deserve it as much as or even more than you. And to proclaim dominion over the three titles published for the version you want is you being an insufferable (to borrow a catchphrase from Nowhereman) CUNT. LLance is older than dirt itself (I know. We've done tests) and has an appreciation for Silver Age comics. He should be able to pick up a book and get what he wants from Superman too. And he shouldn't prevent you from picking up a Superman book and reading the stories you want to read, either.
And before you start going off on a tyraid that has nothing to do with my post, I'll let you know that I prefer Byrne's Superman to the Silver Age. I thought it captured the essence of the Golden Age hero and was more approachable. But I don't degrade Silver Age material or their fans. They just have a different taste for the kinds of stories they want out of the same characters. I can respect your opinion of Byrne's Superman being the one you enjoy; but I can't respect a jackass who won't accept that he's not the only one who reads these books or that writers and publishers should pander to your and only your desires in stories.
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You're right ,a single title would be great. DC should rename all titles "Action Comics" and make it a weekly that follows the same numbering (800+). Maybe that way the whinners will shut the fuck up already and  I still don't see how the concept of weekly storytelling told across four titles (as it was in the 90's) is so over people's heads. The concept is not that hard to get. The readers must just be really, really, really stupid. Well, not for nothing SA comics were aimed at simple minded people and simpler minded adults...
Comics are like a Rorschach test; everyone has a different opinion on what they are and can be...
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Or maybe fan, with the current high cover prices, don't want to spend a shitload of money each month to be able to understand a single story. Especially if that title is poorly writen, like they have been the past several years.
whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules. It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness. This is true both in politics and on the internet." Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."
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