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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Massachusetts, on Monday launched a withering election-year attack on President Bush's domestic agenda and again blasted him over his handling of Iraq.
"Iraq is George Bush's Vietnam," Kennedy declared in a speech at the Brookings Institution, a think tank.
Kennedy's speech drew a stern rebuke from the Senate majority whip, Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, who took to the Senate floor to denounce Kennedy's remarks as "vicious" and "outrageous."
Kennedy, the Senate's most pre-eminent liberal voice, repeated earlier assertions that Bush led the United States into the Iraq war on false pretenses and that the continuing conflict there has distracted the nation's attention away from what Kennedy sees as the real war on terrorism.
"President Bush gave al Qaeda two years ... to regroup and recover in the border regions of Afghanistan," Kennedy said, talking about the terrorist network led by Osama bin Laden. "As the terrorist bombings in Madrid and other reports now indicate, al Qaeda has used that time to plant terrorist cells in countries throughout the world, and establish ties with terrorist groups in many different lands."
The Bush administration has said many times that more than 70 percent of al Qaeda's leadership has been killed or captured and that the terrorist network is on the run.
McConnell, a Republican, said only al Qaeda was responsible for the attacks of September 11, 2001.
"We need to focus on rooting out global terrorism by fighting the terrorists and not each other," McConnell said.
Kennedy charged the Bush administration with a lack of candor about the threat that Saddam Hussein posed, and said that mindset has carried over to its domestic agenda.
"Saying whatever it takes to prevail has become standard operating procedure procedure in the Bush White House," he said. "In this administration, truth is the first casualty of policy."
"You kind of get tired giving the other team credit. At some point you've got to look in the mirror and say 'I sucked.'"
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I wish someone would have stood up and told Teddy: Iraq is Bush's Vietnam? Isn't Chappaquiddick a better comparison? And didn't Teddy originally support the war in Vietnam? His brothers John and Bobby sure did.
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Iraq is free. Saddam Hussein is captured.
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Don't insult Whomod - or Mother Jones - like that!  But seriously - metaphorical ammunition is better than no ammunition at all, right?  Right? After all, the Dems' argument - or candidate, for that matter - doesn't really have to be worth a damn at all. They just have to do their best to drag W down to their level of uselessness.  For the record, the Dems almost unilaterally supported going into Vietnam - then did an almost instantaneous about-face when they saw opposing the war might work to their advantage in the next election. Original? Hardly. The last time that'd happen? No way. But did it help their cause then? Not really. So I'm not put off by The Unimpressive One's remarks all that much.
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At least he didn't say it was Bush's Chappaquiddick. 
Serious, however, Ted Kennedy should know Vietnams.
After all, his family practically started that particular war...a war it took Richard Nixon, of all people, to get us out of.
You know, the more I think about this, the more steamed I am.
What does it take for a Democrat to know shame?
Here, we have a serial adulterer who killed a campaign worker by driving off a bridge and leaving her to drown. A guy who was wandering around his mansion, drunk, with his pants around his ankles while his nephew allegedly raped a woman.
A member of a family that made its fortune in organized crime, the brother of a President whose administration orchestrated the failed invasion of Cuba and the Vietnam war. The brother of a President and Attorney General who tried to do as little as possible to aid the civil rights movement because it wasn't politically expedient to do so.
A guy who trots his dead President brother's ghost out whenever it suits him to attack tax cuts, even though that self-same brother instituted MASSIVE tax cuts.
Basically, a lying, corrupt son of a bitch.
When you add Kennedy to other prominent Demcrats, including Former KKK Wizard Robert Byrd (Sen. Minority Whip), Jesse "Hymietown" Jackson, Al "Blood Sucking Jews" Sharpton and Bill "disbarred for perjury and obstruction of justice" Clinton, you have to wonder:
What sort of idiot actually thinks that these people are credible to speak on truth vs lie, right vs wrong?
How desperate are people to suck on the government teat, to excuse turn a blind eye to the nanny state, to basically forgive any transgression as long as the government pork comes their way?
What sort of whores have approximately 50% of the American people become that they allow this organized crime cartel to keep operating?
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Vietnam = Iraq?
I must have missed the reports of:
North Iraq overrunning South Iraq
Soviet forces downing American aircraft
Jane Fonda posing with Iraqi military personnel
I also didn't know that during the Vietnamese War, that we killed Ho Chi Minh's sons, and captured Ho Chi Minh himself.
 Other than that, I can clearly see the parallels.
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When you add Kennedy to other prominent Demcrats, including Former KKK Wizard Robert Byrd (Sen. Minority Whip), Jesse "Hymietown" Jackson, Al "Blood Sucking Jews" Sharpton and Bill "disbarred for perjury and obstruction of justice" Clinton, you have to wonder:
What sort of idiot actually thinks that these people are credible to speak on truth vs lie, right vs wrong?
I agree that Ted Kennedy is a complete jackass, but let's not pretend corruption is something exclusive to Democratic politicans...
I'd say it's pretty equal across the board. Which is why I think the two party system is a joke. The fact that these people can run our country is absurd.
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At least he didn't say it was Bush's Chappaquiddick.
Serious, however, Ted Kennedy show know Vietnams.
After all, his family practically started that particular war...a war it took Richard Nixon, of all people, to get us out of.
You know, the more I think about this, the more steamed I am.
What does it take for a Democrat to know shame?
Here, we have a serial adulterer who killed a campaign worker by driving off a bridge and leaving her to drown. A guy who was wandering around his mansion, drunk, with his pants around his ankles while his nephew allegedly raped a woman.
A member of a family that made its fortune in organized crime, the brother of a President whose administration orchestrated the failed invasion of Cuba and the Vietnam war. The brother of a President and Attorney General who tried to do as little as possible to aid the civil rights movement because it wasn't politically expedient to do so.
A guy who trots his dead President brother's ghost out whenever it suits him to attack tax cuts, even though that self-same brother instituted MASSIVE tax cuts.
Basically, a lying, corrupt son of a bitch.
When you add Kennedy to other prominent Demcrats, including Former KKK Wizard Robert Byrd (Sen. Minority Whip), Jesse "Hymietown" Jackson, Al "Blood Sucking Jews" Sharpton and Bill "disbarred for perjury and obstruction of justice" Clinton, you have to wonder:
What sort of idiot actually thinks that these people are credible to speak on truth vs lie, right vs wrong?
How desperate are people to suck on the government teat, to excuse turn a blind eye to the nanny state, to basically forgive any transgression as long as the government pork comes their way?
What sort of whores have approximately 50% of the American people become that they allow this organized crime cartel to keep operating?
The Democratic party has been, and is, corrupt. But what sort of alternative are the assholes that make up the Republican party? Are you kidding? The Democrats are no worse than the Republicans. Gordon G. Liddy?
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Vietnam = Iraq?
I must have missed the reports of:
North Iraq overrunning South Iraq
Soviet forces downing American aircraft
Jane Fonda posing with Iraqi military personnel
I also didn't know that during the Vietnamese War, that we killed Ho Chi Minh's sons, and captured Ho Chi Minh himself.
Other than that, I can clearly see the parallels.
your missing the point theyre both wars! thats all the connection needed!
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The Dems really should tell Teddy to shut up. He's their biggest voice against Bush yet I think a lot of times he hurts them rather than helps them. Everytime he thinks he makes a point against Bush you can immediately come up with a counter point.
I love it when he suggests that Bush is a "privelaged son." Amazing. I don't know if Teddy's stupid or ignorant.
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He should criticize Bush about his past drinking, as well.
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It took less time to get to Baghdad than it did to call in the accident report for Chappaquiddick.
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It took less time to get to Baghdad than it did to call in the accident report for Chappaquiddick.
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yeah, why bother defending kennedy when its so much easier to attack someone not involved in the discussion!
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I think Whomod proved an excellent point. Bush can't claim moral high ground over the Kennedy family. In fact, he can't claim moral high ground over many people. Ted Kennedy may be a jerk, but he's no worse than Bush, or Clinton for that matter.
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are you saying that an accident where someone skips the scene and leaves someone to die is equal to running a stop sign and killing someone? i mean both accidents could be cited as poor judgement, but leaving someone to drown and not reporting it is immoral no matter how you try to explain it. this only proves that you are biased by party JQ there is no equivilant but you are so bent on bashing you equate one with the other.....
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The Democrats are no worse than the Republicans. Gordon G. Liddy?
What high political office does Liddy hold in the Republican party?
What position does he have within the Republican Party campaign structure?
How many national Republican candidates seek out his endorsement, the way that Democrats do with Jackson and Sharpton?
Answer: None.
That's the difference between the GOP and the Democrats.
The GOP roots out its crooks (Nixon, Liddy, North) and/or bigots (Duke,, Lott). The Democrats lionize theirs (Clinton, Sharpton, Jackson, Kennedy, Byrd).
But there's no hypocrisy. No double standard. Nope. Nosir. Nosiree bob.
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I think Whomod proved an excellent point. Bush can't claim moral high ground over the Kennedy family. In fact, he can't claim moral high ground over many people.
whomod's above post is an example as to why i find it difficult to debate with him. it didn't address anything the topic was discussing -- it was simply an attack.
firstly, dubya didn't claim anything. kennedy is the one marking himself up on the higher ground. dubya hasn't even commented on the situation.
secondly, ted kennedy's incident involves ...ted kennedy! whomod's example involves dubya's wife, decades before she met the guy whomod dislikes so much. she didn't even have the same last name yet.
getting even more technical, one involved a cover up (or, at least, a secret) -- the other involved a minor, immediately held responsible for her mistake.
the two examples bare no relation, and the post had no direct purpose.
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Careful, Rob. whomod's going to start with his "woe is me, I'm being unfairly persecuted" bit again.
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Rob's counterpoint to whomod and JQ bring up another aspect of thsi whole "liberal hate" or "liberal double standard" question. It seems like there is growing inability among members of the left to be able to draw reasonable distinctions, preferring to judge behavior simply on whether or not they like the actor. For example: To a liberal, Ted Kennedy driving drunk and leaving a woman to die (an act for which he plea bargained to a lesser charge) is no worse than George Bush driving drunk and not hurting anyone, or Laura Bush running a stop sign (which nearly EVERYONE has done) and causing a fatal accident.
To a liberal, Al Sharpton leading a chant against, and urging violence against "Blood Sucking Jews" is no worse than Trent Lott saying something nice--albeit not particular well thought out--about 98 year old Strom Thurmond.
To a liberal, Bill Clinton ignoriing the UN and acting unilaterally in Bosnia is way better than George Bush ignoring the UN and acting unilaterally in Iraq.
To a liberal, Bill Clinton (allegedly) dodging the draft by going to Oxford is fine, but George Bush (allegedly) dodging the draft by serving in the National Guard is desertion.
To a liberal, calling the guy trying to guard your life a "son of a bitch" to his face is no worse than calling a hostile reporter an "asshole" in a private conversation.
To a liberal, a movie director screwing his step-daughter--or raping a 13 year old is irrelevant to the director's "genius," but a director who made a movie about Jesus Christ is a "kook," "anti-Semite" or worse.
To a liberal, flying jets into populated buildings is no worse than bombing an enemy during war. In each, to a liberal, any transgression by one "their own" no matter how serious is indistinguishable, or even preferable, to an objectively more minor transgression by a member of the opposition. Is that because of "hate"? Maybe. Or maybe it's the logical consequence of that "who am I to judge" mentality that has been so prevalent among the left. The mentality that excuses bad behavior by arguing that, somewhere, somehow, there's worse behavior out there. The mentality that looks at criminals as victims, the police as bullies and crime victims as part of a bourgeois capitalist system. In either event, I think it's time to call them on it, I think people ARE calling them on it more and more...and I think they are freaking out because of it.
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To a liberal, Ted Kennedy driving drunk and leaving a woman to die (an act for which he plea bargained to a lesser charge) is no worse than George Bush driving drunk and not hurting anyone, or Laura Bush running a stop sign (which nearly EVERYONE has done) and causing a fatal accident.
Absolutely not. They're both pretty stupid, but Kennedy's clearly the more fucked up of the two(in regards to Bush and himself). I've yet to see anyone debate that.
What I have seen people debate is whether or not Bush is a moral authority.
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To a liberal, Al Sharpton leading a chant against, and urging violence against "Blood Sucking Jews" is no worse than Trent Lott saying something nice--albeit not particular well thought out--about 98 year old Strom Thurmond.
You'll have to explain that one. I don't recall the details of either.
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To a liberal, Bill Clinton ignoriing the UN and acting unilaterally in Bosnia is way better than George Bush ignoring the UN and acting unilaterally in Iraq.
I haven't heard anyone say that. Sounds about the same to me....and weren't you just using the "To a liberal, X is no worse than Y" theme?
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To a liberal, Bill Clinton (allegedly) dodging the draft by going to Oxford is fine, but George Bush (allegedly) dodging the draft by serving in the National Guard is desertion.
"Desertion"? Where has the word desertion been used?
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To a liberal, calling the guy trying to guard your life a "son of a bitch" to his face is no worse than calling a hostile reporter an "asshole" in a private conversation.
I think both comments were taken out of context and blown out of proportion.
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To a liberal, a movie director screwing his step-daughter--or raping a 13 year old is irrelevant to the director's "genius," but a director who made a movie about Jesus Christ is a "kook," "anti-Semite" or worse.
This one seems aimed at me. I don't think a director's personal life should reflect the quality of a movie, that goes for both Polanski and Gibson. Do I think Gibson has a few screws loose? Yes, I most certainly do. Do I think Polanski does, too? Abso-friggin-lutely.
But neither should play a factor in how a movie is judged.
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To a liberal, flying jets into populated buildings is no worse than bombing an enemy during war.
When the bombing is of a civilian city, then yes, I'd say they're about equal. Neither group of citizens deserve to be killed, and both are acts of war. As I said in another thread, there's an extremely thin line between an act of war and an act of terrorism.
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In each, to a liberal, any transgression by one "their own" no matter how serious is indistinguishable, or even preferable, to an objectively more minor transgression by a member of the opposition.
....? I think what you really mean here is that some people are so enamored with their own political agenda that bias blinds them to the similarities between themselves and their opposition.
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Is that because of "hate"? Maybe.
No offense, G-Man, but the most "hateful" comments I see in this thread are your own. You're applying the reasoning of a few people(how many, exactly, two?) to an entire group of millions. That's completely and utterly unfair.
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The GOP roots out its crooks (Nixon, Liddy, North) and/or bigots (Duke,, Lott). The Democrats lionize theirs (Clinton, Sharpton, Jackson, Kennedy, Byrd).
The Democrats lionize Clinton, Sharpton and Jackson?
They're punchlines. Just like Nixon, Strom Thurmond(who I notice you didn't include in your "bigots" category), and Ted Kennedy. The same would probably be true of JFK if he wasn't assassinated.
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The Democrats lionize Clinton, Sharpton and Jackson? They're punchlines.
Maybe to talk show hosts, but to the Democratic party each of them is lionized.
Clinton still advises major Democrat candidates, including Kerry.
Major candidates, including Al Gore and Hillary Clinton have sought endorsements from Sharpton, and Dean was courting Jackson.
So maybe they are a joke, but, if so, the Democrat Party isn't in on the joke.
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The Democrats lionize Clinton, Sharpton and Jackson? They're punchlines.
Maybe to talk show hosts, but to the Democratic party each of them is lionized.
Clinton still advises major Democrat candidates, including Kerry.
Major candidates, including Al Gore and Hillary Clinton have sought endorsements from Sharpton, and Dean was courting Jackson.
So maybe they are a joke, but, if so, the Democrat Party isn't in on the joke.
Those seem more like cases of exercising diplomacy than lionizing, to me. Sharpton and Jackson do have the right to express their beliefs, hate-filled or not, as protected by the constitution. They know that, and so they'll continue to speak out. Democratic candidates rather appease them(since they know that as long as they're nonviolent nothing can be done against them), than publically blast them and just be added to their "list".
Just because Clinton, Sharpton or Jackson endorse someone doesn't mean the candidate they're endorsing considers them serious forces within the Democratic party.
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Come now, there's a difference between letting someone voice their view and actively seeking their support.
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The only article that really says any of them actively pursued Sharpton/Jackson/Clinton's endorsement was the sarcasm-filled blatantly pro-Republican piece that paints a one sided picture of Democrats lining up to kiss Al Sharpton's ass, all without actually providing evidence of it. It even smears Bill Bradley's comment acknowledging that he and Al Sharpton don't always see eye to eye, but that he has to show respect. Again, diplomacy, not lionizing.
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The only article that really says any of them actively pursued Sharpton/Jackson/Clinton's endorsement was the sarcasm-filled blatantly pro-Republican piece that paints a one sided picture of Democrats lining up to kiss Al Sharpton's ass, all without actually providing evidence of it.
Perhaps their evidence came from this report in theNew York Times, which reported on Gore meeting with Sharpton in order to "solidify his support among black New Yorkers."
The article also notes:
Sharpton has been urged by supporters of both candidates (Gore and Bradley) to make an endorsement. He initially considered supporting Mr. Bradley but came under pressure from political leaders like the Rev. Jesse L. Jackson, who urged him to endorse the vice president
And Salon reported in 1999 on Hillary's efforts to court Shaprton during her NYS Senate run:
There is little doubt Sharpton will have some role in the campaign....Clinton's kowtowing began last month, when she invited the reverend to a White House reception for the World Series champion New York Yankees....
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Perhaps their evidence came from this report in theNew York Times, which reported on Gore meeting with Sharpton in order to "solidify his support among black New Yorkers."
But as the National Review also states, Gore was the "slowest of all to pay homage to Sharpton". The meeting only came after Sharpton made the comment that it would be "strange" if Gore didn't "show respect to the community".
It almost sounds like a threat.
I'm not trying to say Gore was a victim there or anything, but it doesn't sound like he was beating down Sharpton's door, either.
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There is little doubt Sharpton will have some role in the campaign....Clinton's kowtowing began last month, when she invited the reverend to a White House reception for the World Series champion New York Yankees....
And as that article notes, inviting Sharpton was, in part, an attempt to unite African Americans and Jews in New York(an issue that was slowly growing in relevance after the Crown Heights tragedy). Hence an invitiation also being extended to William Rapfogel, director of the New York Metropolitan Coordinating Council on Jewish Poverty.
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the bastardized tangent is now being discussed here. this thread will now resume discussion on that delicious ted kennedy, last specifically mentioned here
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Who has the best chest? Kennedy or Llance? Discuss! 
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All I know is that I'd rather drink with Kennedy. At least, with Teddy, I know that there are no rufies in my drink...
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Just don't let him drive you home.
"You kind of get tired giving the other team credit. At some point you've got to look in the mirror and say 'I sucked.'"
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Yesterday's Boston Globe featured an op-ed by Sen. Ted Kennedy* in which he huffs and puffs about jackbooted government thugs: Just this past week there were public reports that a college student in Massachusetts had two government agents show up at his house because he had gone to the library and asked for the official Chinese version of Mao Tse-tung's Communist Manifesto. Following his professor's instructions to use original source material, this young man discovered that he, too, was on the government's watch list.
Think of the chilling effect on free speech and academic freedom when a government agent shows up at your home--after you request a book from the library. As noted on another thread, this story appears to be a hoax. But even if you don't believe its a hoax, shouldn't a US Senator know that "The Communist Manifesto" was written by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels in 1848, not by Mao, who wasn't born until 1893?
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During the Alito confirmation hearings today, Ted Kennedy erroneously referred to Barry Goldwater as a past President and even forgot Alito's name for a moment, confusing him with Judge Aliata. As National Review notes: If The Daily Show were fair and balanced, Kennedy's [gaffes] would so make it to the show tonight.
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The Daily Show is a comedy show, you do know that, don't you?
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I do, but Jon Stewart doesn't.
But you're seizing on my offhand comment instead of my main point, which is that Kennedy is apparently now a senile old idiot.
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Didn't we know that ages ago?
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Apparently not, since he's not only still in office, but still a Senate leader.
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