Quote: Chant said (emphasis added with some degree of bewilderment): I'll say that despite whatever lies both sides in this debate might spout, there's no denying it.
We DO have a problem...
Dude... do you read what you're saying before you post it? You admitted both sides (including, by the way, the side that says there's a problem) are probably lying, then proceeded to charge teeth-first into "we DO have a problem...", paying absolutely no heed to your previous sentence. You're starting to remind me of MEM.
Actually, Sammitch, he was probably mentioning the lies about the severity of the problem and not whether or not there is a problem. The one "chargin in teeth-first" seems to be you.
Maybe I read a different intent into it at first. That's always a possibility. If so I apologize. It just seemed that he had his mind made up before even addressing the conflicting arguments, which really isn't any different from most if not all of the rest of us.