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I heard he was asked to write War and Peace but the publishers thought his version was too long.
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The "novel" I posted is other people's posts to the original topic.
Silly me, I thought I was providing a service to those who enjoyed and participated in the original topic, that many would enjoy.
Not one of the posts in the first two pages I reconstructed are mine, so it's not my "novel".
I find it amusing that those who criticize my writing here are the same ones who consistently disagree with my political views in the DEEP THOUGHTS section.
No vendettas or axes to grind in your bashing me, I'm sure. 
When you start paying attention to the posts I'm responding to (by Whomod, T-Dave, Animalman and Wednesday, Darknight613 and Matter Eater Man, for example), which are usually very long themselves and don't lend themselves to short answers, then you might actually demonstrate some credibility and non-partisanship in bashing the length of my posts.
GEEZ ! I was just reconstructing a popular topic (as I also did the "Cheese" topic, and a few other good discussions.)
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To those of you who don't appreciate the reconstructed topic:
Don't read it. No one's twisting your arm.
To those of you who do:
Enjoy ! 
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Heh-heh, the original was reeeheeeheeeally populah. 
Yes it was !!
The original topic was 24 pages long.
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Jebus, dude! Get off your high horse. I could care less about your political leanings, but I do think reposting old topics like you tend to do is tiresome to the rest of us. Even if we don't read it, we have to scroll down through all that shit just to get to the next post in the topic. It breaks up the flow of conversation and gay jokes at Rob's and/or LLance's expense. No one was flaming you for it. They were just expressing their opinions on your doing it. Stop acting like a fucking victim. You're starting to sound like Jack, the Lil' Death.
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 ..way harsh doc....
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Jebus, dude! Get off your high horse. I could care less about your political leanings, but I do think reposting old topics like you tend to do is tiresome to the rest of us. Even if we don't read it, we have to scroll down through all that shit just to get to the next post in the topic. It breaks up the flow of conversation and gay jokes at Rob's and/or LLance's expense. No one was flaming you for it. They were just expressing their opinions on your doing it. Stop acting like a fucking victim. You're starting to sound like Jack, the Lil' Death.
I'm not "acting like a f---ing victim".
I'm actually just trying to have some fun.
Shazamgrrl resurrected an old topic, and in the spirit of the old topic, I actually reproduced some of it.
Just trying to have some fun. If the Thought Police are okay with that.
I didn't see that I was interrupting much of anything. If anything, I was trying to jump-start the topic, by bringing in some more WTF's from the old topic to discuss.
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Gee, most people on the DC Message boards were morons...
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I don't care if you repost it. You should just consider that some people are going to see it as odd or interrupting and will express their opinions or just have fun and joke with you about it, as Pro and others did. Instead, you come back with this: Quote:
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The "novel" I posted is other people's posts to the original topic.
Silly me, I thought I was providing a service to those who enjoyed and participated in the original topic, that many would enjoy.
Not one of the posts in the first two pages I reconstructed are mine, so it's not my "novel".
I find it amusing that those who criticize my writing here are the same ones who consistently disagree with my political views in the DEEP THOUGHTS section.
No vendettas or axes to grind in your bashing me, I'm sure.
When you start paying attention to the posts I'm responding to (by Whomod, T-Dave, Animalman and Wednesday, Darknight613 and Matter Eater Man, for example), which are usually very long themselves and don't lend themselves to short answers, then you might actually demonstrate some credibility and non-partisanship in bashing the length of my posts.
GEEZ ! I was just reconstructing a popular topic (as I also did the "Cheese" topic, and a few other good discussions.)
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To those of you who don't appreciate the reconstructed topic:
Don't read it. No one's twisting your arm.
To those of you who do:
Enjoy !
You declare some feud between you and some posters instead of seeing the friendly and humorous jab. You throw out partisanship and everything else to make it look like some devious conspiracy circling around your posting is in the works.
Lighten up!
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Don't sweat him, Doc. The Wonder Boy hasn't changed since the DCMBS. He still gets his panties in a twist if you so much as blink twice his way. And, don't bother trying to explain the harmless nature of my remarks to him. He won't listen. The world is out to get him....
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Guys, Dave added the posts from the original topic because the old DCMBs went the way of the Dodo bird.
Look at it this way: it was only the first couple of pages. Posting all 24 pages would have been an enormous pain in the arse for Dave, not to mention being a lot of posts to read through. And since I was gone from the boards for over a year, I didn't know that the page count was that high.
Just trying to keep the peace...
(Edit: couple of minor corrections. Keh.)
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I would say WTF were they thinking turning Hal into Parallax. But, I recently began reading the old Green Lanturn issues, starting with Emerald Twilight. I just finished #64. Now, I want to know WTF they were thinking when they killed Hal off and made him Spectre. In #64, we finally see what Hal has become. He is torn. He seems to finally understand that he can't undo the past, but he doesn't know what he can do now, because he has crossed the line. He doesn't know how to be a hero again. Talk about story potential. But, instead of setting him asside until someone could come along and finally give Hal that second chance (as the powerful Parallax), they have him sacrifice himself in Final Night (or so I am told). So, basically, they had this great character to work with. I mean, the guy was really messed up. Everything leading to him becoming Parallax made sense. But then, I guess they just didn't realize what they really had, and they had no clue what the next phase of evolution for Hal Jordan would be, so they said "fuck this, we're too dumb to give him his own book," and they killed him off. But then they made him Spectre. And now they are bringing him back somehow. So, what the fuck? They should have never killed him off. They should have left him alone and waited for say, I don't know, a guy like Peter David, to take over the character. Idiots.
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I can't believe there is an argument on this.
Dave TWB just contributed old and funny posts. Chill out, folks.
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I'll second that, Wednesday ! Does anyone remember THOR 364 by Simonson, the issue where Thor was turned into a frog for an issue, and he fought heroically for a whole issue as the Frog of Thunder, before being restored to god-human form?  Seeing is believing !
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One of my favorite runs was Roger Stern/John Romita Jr.'s AMAZING SPIDERMAN 224-251 run (from 1982-1984). I don't think any creative team has ever handled the character better.
The Hobgoblin was introduced in issue 238. And there was a very exciting buildup while Stern was scripting the series, that petered out as soon as Stern left the book.
My nominee WTF storyline was where whoever was scripting the book around 1988-1989, (Tom Defalco? David Michelinie? ) revealed (in total contradiction to all the past clues given to the character's identity) that Hobgoblin was Ned Leeds (issue 289 ).
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Truly, WHAT THE F---.
I even wrote Marvel at the time with a lengthy list of the clues, and even suggested several ways they could repair the story in a way that made sense and didn't insult readers' intelligence.
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I nominate the "Damaged Goods" story from the Titans. In it, we learn that Damage's foster parents sexually molested young Grant Emerson. This didn't make a lick of sense, seeing as how they were handpicked by Vandal Savage to raise the potentially uber-powerful kid and not sent to sleep with Jimmy Hoffa for damaging his mental state. Equally ridiculous was Arsenal's solution. "Therapy? Feh! Let the emotionally disturbed teenager who blows up live with my Indian tribe!" The hell?
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Outsiders 9 & 10, by Winnick and Haley, which features the "new, improved" Sabbac and Captain Marvel Jr. in his "new", WHITE cape. In a nutshell, Timothy Karnes, a character who's never been seen before in the mainstream DC Universe, suddenly becomes Freddy Freeman's foster-brother, makes a pact with the Devil because he's "jealous" of Freddy's being Captain Marvel Jr., and winds up murdered by a Russian mobster for his own powers.
For those who don't know, Junior's supposed to have a RED CAPE, not a white. Freddy's whole "color chart" is supposed to differeciate him from his "big brother", Captain Marvel.
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I kind of like Mary Marvel in the new white costume, though.  I first saw it in the FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE JUSTICE LEAGUE series, although I think having her in a white costume was around a few years prior to that. But I like Captain Marvel Jr. in his classic blue costume. And especially as drawn by Mac Raboy ! I've also seen Captain Marvel Junior's cape done as red-and-gold on the outer side, and white on the underside, which I kind of like, because it gives his costume a wider range of color. It was done this way in a few panels of the facsimile 1953 SHAZAM ANNUAL about 2 years ago (although I think it was a coloring error, it was visually interesting, as was coloring the underside black, which could be the color, or just a shadow effect). Another huge WTF... ARCHIE MEETS THE PUNISHER :   Need I say more ?
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(Reposting this here, because the version I posted on the DCMBs got turned into a certain someone's own little vendetta thread.)
please elaborate...
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My nominee WTF storyline was where whoever was scripting the book around 1988-1989, (Tom Defalco? David Michelinie? ) revealed (in total contradiction to all the past clues given to the character's identity) that Hobgoblin was Ned Leeds (issue 289 ).
GAH! Spoiler warning!
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I have (or used to, maybe) that issue. It's one of the three Spider-Man issues I have. I think it was Micheline. I always thought the guy they revealed the Hobgoblin to be was created there. Who was he?
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(Reposting this here, because the version I posted on the DCMBs got turned into a certain someone's own little vendetta thread.)
please elaborate...
Long story short, not 5 minutes after I made the post on the DCMBs, Food Eater Lad started with his usual spam: making accusations of "Liar" and "hypocrit" (his misspelling, not mine) and innuendoes about whether or not I was a closet JSA fan (I'm not).
Truth is, the guy's had it in for me from the first time he posted there. He's followed me onto almost every forum I've frequented, and was one of the reasons I shut down the Rock of Eternity Forum.
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ShazamGrrl1 said:THE Franta said:
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please elaborate... . Long story short, not 5 minutes after I made the post on the DCMBs, Food Eater Lad started with his usual spam: making accusations of "Liar" and "hypocrit" (his misspelling, not mine) and innuendoes about whether or not I was a closet JSA fan (I'm not). . Truth is, the guy's had it in for me from the first time he posted there. He's followed me onto almost every forum I've frequented, and was one of the reasons I shut down the Rock of Eternity Forum. I thought you were referring to the part I reproduced in the "Liberal Media" topic (reproducing pages 11 and 12 of the original WTF topic, if I recall), where the WTF topic took a detour into political discussion about liberal media bias. The liberal media topic: http://www.robkamphausen.com/ubbthreads/...;o=&fpart=1 But I saw the section of the WTF topic you refer to, Shazamgrrl, where said person was accusing you of stuff. But it still went on and remained a very enjoyable topic, despite the best efforts of said person you referred to. The Time Trust: . Dave the Wonder Boy:
My nominee WTF storyline was where whoever was scripting the book around 1988-1989, (Tom Defalco? David Michelinie? ) revealed (in total contradiction to all the past clues given to the character's identity) that Hobgoblin was Ned Leeds (issue 289 ) . GAH! Spoiler warning! . Ooops !! Sorry TTT. Since it's a story that's over 15 years old, I didn't put up the usual spoiler warnings. In the future, I'll be more careful, for anyone who hasn't read a story referred to yet. Believe me when I say your money is better spent elsewhere than on AMAZING SPIDERMAN 289. Roger Stern eventually came back to Marvel and finished the story HIS way, but it was still pretty lame, and not up to usual Roger Stern standards. (In a three-issue HOBGOBLIN LIVES miniseries. Really dull, about two thirds of the series is incredibly dull and wordy flashback sequences, that really suck away any ability to get into the story.)   
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I thought you were referring to the part I reproduced in the "Liberal Media" topic (pages 11 and 12 ofthe topic, if I recall).
But I saw the section you refer to, Shazamgrrl, where said person was accusing you of stuff. But it still went on and remained a very enjoyable topic, despite the best efforts of said person you referred to.
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My nominee WTF storyline was where whoever was scripting the book around 1988-1989, (Tom Defalco? David Michelinie? ) revealed (in total contradiction to all the past clues given to the character's identity) that Hobgoblin was Ned Leeds (issue 289 )
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GAH! Spoiler warning!
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Ooops !! Sorry TTT.
Since it's a story that's over 15 years old, I didn't put up the usual spoiler warnings.
In the future, I'll be more careful, for anyone who hasn't read a story referred to yet.
Believe me when I say your money is better spent elsewhere than on AMAZING SPIDERMAN 289.
Roger Stern eventually came back to Marvel and finished the story HIS way, but it was still pretty lame, and not up to usual Roger Stern standards. (In a three-issue HOBGOBLIN LIVES miniseries. Really dull, about two thirds of the series is incredibly dull and wordy flashback sequences, that really suck away any ability to get into the story.)
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"This Man, This Wonder Boy..."
well that doesn't matter anymore because Marvel put out a Hobgoblin mini-series book a couple years back that made Ned Leeds not the Hobgoblin.
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Ooops again !
Sorry, Stupid Dog, I was adding reference to the HOBGOBLIN LIVES miniseries to my edited post while you were posting the same thing.
You are correct, sir !
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So what's officially the deal with the Hobgoblin now? I always thought he was a cool Spidey villain, especially since he became a demon...
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My nominee WTF storyline was where whoever was scripting the book around 1988-1989, (Tom Defalco? David Michelinie? ) revealed (in total contradiction to all the past clues given to the character's identity) that Hobgoblin was Ned Leeds (issue 289 ).
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Truly, WHAT THE F---.
Yeah, I remember that one. I wasn't very old when I read it, so at that time I didn't think any of it, but when I think about it now, it really is a WTF?!?!?
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ShazamGrrl1 you are so obviously a closet JSA fan, I don't know why you try to hide it....
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Chant said:Dave the Wonder Boy said:
My nominee WTF storyline was where whoever was scripting the book around 1988-1989, (Tom Defalco? David Michelinie? ) revealed (in total contradiction to all the past clues given to the character's identity) that Hobgoblin was Ned Leeds (issue 289 ).
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Truly, WHAT THE F---.
Yeah, I remember that one. I wasn't very old when I read it, so at that time I didn't think any of it, but when I think about it now, it really is a WTF?!?!? The original "clone" story was in AMAZING SPIDERMAN 148-149, and quickly ran its course around 1975. It was actually pleasant, before it was resurrected two decades later in the early 1990's as a huge overblown crossover event. The only other mention of it for a long time was WHAT IF # 30 (December 1981) which was a great "What if Spiderman's clone had lived?" This was a really fun story, that I'd recommend.  I definitely am not a fan of the 90's clone revival. Another great WHAT IF was "What if Gwen Stacy had lived?" in WHAT IF 24.  I wish this last one could have been stretched into a 6 or 12 issue alternate storyline, to really develop all the great altered elements from the regular series, in this compelling single-issue story that could have been a great expanded series. Very enjoyable.
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ShazamGrrl1 you are so obviously a closet JSA fan, I don't know why you try to hide it....
Trust me...she isn't..and if you can't trust a pixie, you can you trust? Tee!Hee!Hee!!!
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Britney, I've only bought 2 issues of Johns' JSA, 6 & 17, and both times I felt ripped-off. Haven't looked at an issue since, nor have I picked up his Hawkman, Flash or Titans. Others like him, and that's fine. I just find what of his I've read too padded, cliche and "Mary Sue-ish" for my tastes.
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Reminder people: The purpose of this thread isn't to gripe about some in continuity storyline or character change you just don't like (ie, Hall into Parallax). Even if it's a bad one. It's supposed to be a place to give the recounts of those so bad they're good or completely goofy and completely retconned out of existence almost immediately stories, most of which seem to come from DC. Some of the more "classic" examples:
The issue of World's Finest where it was revealed that Bruce Wayne had a heretofore unseen retarded older brother who was institutionalized since childhood.
The issue of Flash wherein we learned that "Mopee" a Mr. Mxyzptlk-like sprite had caused the "magic lightning" that struck the chemicals that turned Barry into the Flash.
The issue of Superman wherein it was stated that Kryptonian lenses in Clark's glasses had "super hypnotism" effect, causing people to see Superman and Clark as two different people.
The issues of Marvel Team up that had Hercules tow, with REALLY BIG CHAINS, the island of Manhattan after a supervillain had made it float away (no mention of all the people who died when the subway tunnels and midtown tunnel flooded BTW).
Proceed. 
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The issue of The Bat-Man where he dresses up as a giant bat. WTF?
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Britney, I've only bought 2 issues of Johns' JSA, 6 & 17, and both times I felt ripped-off. Haven't looked at an issue since, nor have I picked up his Hawkman, Flash or Titans. Others like him, and that's fine. I just find what of his I've read too padded, cliche and "Mary Sue-ish" for my tastes.
dont be ashamed of who you are, if you like JSA just say so dont hide anymore!
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the G-man said:
Reminder people:
The purpose of this thread isn't to gripe about some in continuity storyline or character change you just don't like (ie, Hall into Parallax). Even if it's a bad one.
It's supposed to be a place to give the recounts of those so bad they're good or completely goofy and completely retconned out of existence almost immediately stories, most of which seem to come from DC.
Some of the more "classic" examples:
The issue of World's Finest where it was revealed that Bruce Wayne had a heretofore unseen retarded older brother who was institutionalized since childhood.
The issue of Flash wherein we learned that "Mopee" a Mr. Mxyzptlk-like sprite had caused the "magic lightning" that struck the chemicals that turned Barry into the Flash.
The issue of Superman wherein it was stated that Kryptonian lenses in Clark's glasses had "super hypnotism" effect, causing people to see Superman and Clark as two different people.
The issues of Marvel Team up that had Hercules tow, with REALLY BIG CHAINS, the island of Manhattan after a supervillain had made it float away (no mention of all the people who died when the subway tunnels and midtown tunnel flooded BTW).
Proceed.
Okay, I was gonna mention the recent portrayal of Jack Murdock as an abusive father who beats Matt so badly that blood flys through the air in DD: Father, but given those criteria, how bout Ghost Rider and the X-Men fighting the Brood in huge, cavernous tunnels beneath New Orleans?!
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Along the same lines as Grimm's post, I've heard that Liefeld depicted skyscrapers in WASHINGTON, DC in issues of Youngblood. Yeesh. Do some research, dude.
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This issue's title of Jimmy Olsen says it all...
"Will the real Don Rickles please step forward?"
Knutreturns said: Spoken like the true Greatest RDCW Champ!
All hail King Snarf!
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