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Sadly, it's prolly gonna happen.

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I've also heard rumors that Florida governor Jeb Bush (George W.'s brother) might be a presidential candidate in 2008 as well.


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That ones not so much rumor as Hilary's is, but yeah.

And I'm saying that Hilary's prolly gonna win.

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That ones not so much rumor as Hilary's is, but yeah.

And I'm saying that Hilary's prolly gonna win.




Maybe. It depends on who she's running against. If it's McCain or Giuliani, maybe not.

Of course, it's a moot point if Kerry wins in November and decides to go for a second term.


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And I'm saying that Hilary's prolly gonna win.




Naw, I wouldn't be so pessimistic. She'll be formitable, but there's definately a lot of work she has to do in order to get the entire nation behind her.


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President Bush will win this election. Call it a hunch. I just don't think Senator Kerry has a chance, for a lot of reasons which I don't want to get into right now, and that really don't have anything to do with this thread.

Right, so, yeah, Hilary Clinton will probably run.

And she won't get my vote.


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I probably wouldn't vote for her, either. She has that air of crookedness about her that her husband does.

But 2008 is a long way away. Who's knows who'll run against her?

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And I'm saying that Hilary's prolly gonna win.




Naw, I wouldn't be so pessimistic. She'll be formitable, but there's definately a lot of work she has to do in order to get the entire nation behind her.



She doesn't need the entire nation. Just an amount slightly less than her opponent.

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I'm pretty sure the Republicans will send up Giuliani. And it wouldn't surprise me if McCain didn't saddle up as Vice.

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I'm pretty sure the Republicans will send up Giuliani. And it wouldn't surprise me if McCain didn't saddle up as Vice.




If I know McCain, it will probably go the other way around - he seems to have made it clear that he doesn't want to be VP.


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And I'm saying that Hilary's prolly gonna win.




Naw, I wouldn't be so pessimistic. She'll be formitable, but there's definately a lot of work she has to do in order to get the entire nation behind her.



She doesn't need the entire nation. Just an amount slightly less than her opponent.



I hope you didn't really take me that littereally. I was refering to the fact that in order to win she would have wil over a crossection of our nation, Not just a majority of New Yorkers.


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I hope you didn't really take me that littereally. I was refering to the fact that in order to win she would have wil over a crossection of our nation, Not just a majority of New Yorkers.



Nope, not at all. I just took it as an opportunity to take a not so sly jab at the way Bush won in '00 .

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You mean the constitutional way? He recied a majoriy of teh electoral college. Is that the way you were refering to?


Don't worry the next election will be far more decisive.


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You mean the constitutional way? He recied a majoriy of teh electoral college. Is that the way you were refering to?



It would be more accurate to say I was referring to the fact that he did not win a majority of the popular vote.

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Don't worry the next election will be far more decisive.



This is what I'm hoping.

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It would be more accurate to say I was referring to the fact that he did not win a majority of the popular vote.




But he still won, because he apealed to a cross section of the nation, hence my original point.


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She doesn't need the entire nation. Just an amount slightly less than her opponent.




How true....

Yeah, I wonder which state will have to an "accidental" recount this time around? Will it be Florida with the "Faulty E-Voting Machines that don't leave paper trails"? Or, will another state step up and "help"?


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Expect Guiliani to run with a Southern or Western conservative as a running, not McCain. If anything, McCain will be secretary of state or secretary of defense.

Hillary and Edwards will be duking it out for the '08 nomination. Don't count Edwards out yet.

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Yeah, I wonder which state will have to an "accidental" recount this time around?




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I have no idea if that is a sentence, or, just an attempt at a baffling retort....

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How true....

Yeah, I wonder which state will have to an "accidental" recount this time around? Will it be Florida with the "Faulty E-Voting Machines that don't leave paper trails"? Or, will another state step up and "help"?





We'll need another state this time. Jeb won't allow for a paper trail, so there can be no recount even if the difference is "razor thin."

I know I should put this in the other thread, but while I'm at it I have to wonder how they knew the machines tallied the primary votes last Thursday without a hitch. After all, there is no evidence left behind to say anything in support or to the contrary.

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Hillary and Edwards will be duking it out for the '08 nomination. Don't count Edwards out yet.



If Kerry loses.

I'd rather see Edwards than H. Clinton.

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I'd rather see most anyone than Hillary....

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If Kerry loses.





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See Hill doesn't even have the support of the rkmbs liberals. I don't think she'd mak it beond the primary.


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Just to clarify, I am not a liberal. That is a tag that others here have labeled me. I make my own political decisions based on my own personal opinions and insight....

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Just to clarify, I am not a liberal. That is a tag that others here have labeled me. I make my own political decisions based on my own personal opinions and insight....




Me too.

And, since my experiences are more vast, my opinions more informed and insight more keen...I'm a conservative.

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Just to clarify, I am not a liberal. That is a tag that others here have labeled me. I make my own political decisions based on my own personal opinions and insight....




Yea, John Kerry won't call himself a liberal either. One trait I've found common amongst many liberals is to deny that there is a word to desrcibe thier belif system.


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You know, technically, President Bush could be called a liberal.

Well, on some issues, anyway.

Take taxes: He wants to look into abolishing the national income tax and replacing it with a national sales tax.

If that's not liberal, I don't know what is.


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Yea, John Kerry won't call himself a liberal either. One trait I've found common amongst many liberals is to deny that there is a word to desrcibe thier belif system.




I like how you promote your own ignorance by denying others their own words. If I say I'm not a liberal, then, I'm not a fucking liberal. Why do you feel the need to always escalate this stuff into some kind of conflict?

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Yea, John Kerry won't call himself a liberal either. One trait I've found common amongst many liberals is to deny that there is a word to desrcibe thier belif system.




I like how you promote your own ignorance by denying others their own words. If I say I'm not a liberal, then, I'm not a fucking liberal. Why do you feel the need to always escalate this stuff into some kind of conflict?




It's angry Prometheus out of his cage! .... can't have a conversation without getting pissed off. I'm sorry if my simple dissagreement
turns this into a conflict for you. Would it make you happy if I just alwayse agreed with you? would that make it easier?

Fine you're not a liberal and Bush was the worst president ever and the Iraq war was a moral out rage and size doesn't matter. You happy now?


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You're such a child, Wbam. I stated that I am not a liberal. And, I should know since I am me. And yet, you insist that I am by contradicting me. What is that? That's like me saying that YOU are a liberal. And, it doesn't matter what you think you are. I have already decided that you are a liberal.

Now is that fair?

I'm sad to say that I lose more and more respect for you everytime we get into one of these things, Wbam...

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You're such a child, Wbam. I stated that I am not a liberal. And, I should know since I am me. And yet, you insist that I am by contradicting me. What is that? That's like me saying that YOU are a liberal. And, it doesn't matter what you think you are. I have already decided that you are a liberal.

Now is that fair?

I'm sad to say that I lose more and more respect for you everytime we get into one of these things, Wbam...




Well, I guess it's better to cuss me out, call me a child and say how much respect you've lost for me rather than acctually engage in the discussion. I hesitate to even elaborate on my point seeing as how you've expressed NO intrest in an actual diologue on my staement, but here goes any way. If you called me a liberal I would tell you what belifs make me non-liberal instead of yelling and freaking out at you. I didn't say YOU were a liberal, I was making the point that Kerry and many liberals SAY that they aren't liberals, in as much as it's not enough to just say "I'm not a liberal" It's not even enough for me to say that. I would need to demonstrate that that I'm not wich I believe I've done. If you really want to defend yourself against such labels, prey tell, what are some of your conservitive values?

Again if you read my original post I never called you a liberal, consider my post a challenge to back up your statement. OR tell me how horrible I am and why you don't like me if that makes you happy.


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And, since my experiences are more vast, my opinions more informed and insight more keen...I'm a conservative.



You know, I REALLY HATE IT when people on these boards PULL THAT SHIT!

You really should put a comma before the last item in a list, even when using a conjunction. Though newspapers and certain journals will not, this is for the sole purpose of saving print space and should be avoided in other texts.

It really burns my haunches when people omit the final commma.

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I hesitate to even elaborate on my point seeing as how you've expressed NO intrest in an actual diologue on my statement, but here goes any way.




I guess I should have stuck with my gut on that one...


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Southern revolt on the ascent of Hillary

    THE first signs of a Democratic revolt against Senator Hillary Clinton’s much-anticipated march on the White House are emerging in the American South, where one of the party’s most successful state governors called last week for Democrats to consider other candidates.

    In a calculated snub of Clinton’s accelerating bandwagon, Governor Philip Bredesen of Tennessee warned that voters were “kind of dissatisfied” with the Democrats’ current presidential contenders and that Clinton would face an “uphill road” to win the White House.

    Bredesen is a soft-spoken, ruddy-faced figure who makes no effort to dodge potentially embarrassing questions. Asked about Clinton, most Democrats gush about how wonderfully she has performed as senator for New York.

    Bredesen instead replied: “People love her or they hate her and I don’t know in the end how all that plays out. But I sure hope there are other people who would step forward.”

    Who should those others be? “It may well be someone that nobody has thought of . . . the sense I get is that people are really hunting around and looking for something different.”

    Bredesen, a former mayor of Nashville, believes his party has “somehow gotten itself divorced” from the blue-collar constituency it has always relied on for presidential success: “I’ve always felt the Democratic party was a kind of alliance between the academics and intellectuals and working-class men and women. I think what happened is that in my lifetime, the academics won.”

    As a result, the governor said, the party had lost its broad appeal. He mocked other Democratic candidates who think connecting with middle America means quoting a few verses from the Bible or being photographed with guns.

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I'm not THAT against her running, but I think there are better Democratic candidates.

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She's running as a Republican.....how many times do i have to tell you..sheesh...it doesn't matter what they think..


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I definitely see her doing that.

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That would kill her.

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Running as a Republican? You bet.

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