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You'd have to ask Chris. However, if his usual analysis is any indication I would bet he would answer that, yes, it is 'fair play' to slash the tires on a Republican's car.
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Voter fraud is wrong no matter who does it. It's to bad G-man has to say crap like I would somehow be for it.
The RNC has paid out almost 3 million to defend their thugs btw.
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Mar 14, 2007 — WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Firefighters, hailed as heroes on September 11, cheered Hillary Rodham Clinton when they gathered on Wednesday to size up U.S. presidential contenders minus Rudolph Giuliani.
Clinton, a 59-year-old Democratic senator from New York, and Giuliani, the 62-year-old former Republican mayor who led New York City during the attacks, are front-runners in polls months before the November 2008 vote.
Clinton and Illinois Democrat Sen. Barack Obama were among the 10 presidential candidates who spoke from the two parties; Giuliani said he was busy.
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To bad Rudy was to busy for some real heroes of 9/11.
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Thank you, I love that pic myself.
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Maybe you could ask Rob to shrink it down and you could use it as an avatar.
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I like the one I have. Maybe after a couple of years I'll switch to the Mr. Terrifics. Quote:
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By John Whitesides, Political Correspondent
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Mar 14, 2007 — WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Firefighters, hailed as heroes on September 11, cheered Hillary Rodham Clinton when they gathered on Wednesday to size up U.S. presidential contenders minus Rudolph Giuliani.
Clinton, a 59-year-old Democratic senator from New York, and Giuliani, the 62-year-old former Republican mayor who led New York City during the attacks, are front-runners in polls months before the November 2008 vote.
Clinton and Illinois Democrat Sen. Barack Obama were among the 10 presidential candidates who spoke from the two parties; Giuliani said he was busy.
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To bad Rudy was to busy for some real heroes of 9/11.
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By John Whitesides, Political Correspondent
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Mar 14, 2007 — WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Firefighters, hailed as heroes on September 11, cheered Hillary Rodham Clinton when they gathered on Wednesday to size up U.S. presidential contenders minus Rudolph Giuliani.
Clinton, a 59-year-old Democratic senator from New York, and Giuliani, the 62-year-old former Republican mayor who led New York City during the attacks, are front-runners in polls months before the November 2008 vote.
Clinton and Illinois Democrat Sen. Barack Obama were among the 10 presidential candidates who spoke from the two parties; Giuliani said he was busy.
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To bad Rudy was to busy for some real heroes of 9/11.
Yeah, I read it the first time. Big deal. The Bitch™ would feign concern for anyone to sucker an extra vote or two outta them. She doesn't care about anyone but herself.
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By John Whitesides, Political Correspondent
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Mar 14, 2007 — WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Firefighters, hailed as heroes on September 11, cheered Hillary Rodham Clinton when they gathered on Wednesday to size up U.S. presidential contenders minus Rudolph Giuliani.
Clinton, a 59-year-old Democratic senator from New York, and Giuliani, the 62-year-old former Republican mayor who led New York City during the attacks, are front-runners in polls months before the November 2008 vote.
Clinton and Illinois Democrat Sen. Barack Obama were among the 10 presidential candidates who spoke from the two parties; Giuliani said he was busy.
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To bad Rudy was to busy for some real heroes of 9/11.
Yeah, I read it the first time. Big deal. The Bitch™ would feign concern for anyone to sucker an extra vote or two outta them. She doesn't care about anyone but herself.
that's the same thing you said when Princess Di died. 
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I'm not a mind reader myself, so I'm stuck with judging candidates by the things they say & do.  Rudy should have made this, especially since he's going to be milking 9/11 heavily for his campaign. That looks bad. It should look bad.
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Ummmmmm... Look, dude, we are clearly talking about Princess Di here. Okay? 
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I think Elton John is overrated.
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Well I guess that's why they call it the blues
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 Anti-Hillary Clinton YouTube Ad Makes Waves on Web Both campaigns for Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama say they know nothing about a new and chilling campaign advertisement airing on YouTube that attempts to cast the Democratic frontrunner and New York senator as Big Brother.
The ad, an example of a "mashup," in which old and new elements are combined to create a new message, uses footage from the "1984" Super Bowl ad produced by Ridley Scott for Apple Computer but splices in footage from Clinton on the presidential campaign trail.
Borrowing the themes in George Orwell's book in which Big Brother forces conformity among the masses, the updated ad shows Clinton's face on a large video screen as she talks about holding conversations with the public. Human drones mindlessly watch until a female athlete carrying a sledgehammer races into the room and smashes the screen.
The end of the ad takes some of the language from the original commercial but changes part of it to say, "On January 14th, the Democratic primary will begin. And you will see why 2008 won't be like '1984.'" The screen then fades to an updated Apple logo showing a rainbow colored 'O' and the Web address BarackObama.com at the bottom.
Officials in the Illinois senator's camp say they have nothing to do with the ad. The Clinton campaign says it doesn't know where the ad came from and had no further official comment. But Clinton supporters are wondering aloud about the role of Obama's campaign even though they readily admit they have no evidence to support their suspicions apart from Obama's Web site being named at the end.
Regardless of the source, the ad hits its mark. Simon Rosenberg, president of the Washington-based New Democrat Network in Washington, D.C., told The San Francisco Chronicle that the ad, cheaply produced and apparently unfettered by copyright restrictions, represents the power of individual activists in a new era.
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Conspiracy Theory: ABC Suggests GOP Behind '1984' Anti-Hillary AdMSM-think: when you have no facts on a controversy, offer up the Democrats' anti-GOP conjecture. That was ABC's modus operandi this morning.
Being the astute observers of the political scene they are, most NewsBusters readers have surely watched the YouTube-based anti-Hillary campaign ad that has been making the rounds.
It is a take-off on the famous Apple computer ad, which in turn was inspired by George Orwell's anti-authoritarian epic "1984." In the current version, an ominous Hillary, appearing on a wide screen to an audience of automatons, represents Big Brother in the same way IBM did in the Apple original. Barack Obama, represented by a woman athlete of a certain age, plays the hero, hurling a hammer into the screen to smash the state and free the prisoners.
Today's "Good Morning America" ran a segment on the ad. And guess who turned out to be the villian? At the segment's end, ABC's Claire Shipman acknowledged that "there still are no real clues about the author." But that didn't stop Shipman from spinning the story to attack Republicans:
"Robin, the ultimate conspiracy theory, some Democrats think a Republican operative could be responsible because it not only makes Hillary Clinton look bad but Barack Obama look bad, since it's an attack ad."
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My theory is that it was some dink with too much time on his hands.
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I tend to think you are correct. But whomever that dink is, he's pretty talented.
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that chick wasn't wearing a bra.... 
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In an interview with NY1 Tuesday, Senator Hillary Clinton addressed the controversial new video that's attacking her credibility and promoting the presidential campaign of chief rival, Barack Obama.
After talking about Senate hearings concerning the health of 9/11 recovery workers, Clinton spoke for the first time about the YouTube video that's quickly become one of the most-watched clips on the website.
In the video based on an Apple computer advertisement from 1984 smashing IBM, Clinton is portrayed as a "Big Brother"-figure lecturing to a sea of drones.
Clinton says she isn't worried about the video's impact.
“I haven't seen it but I’m pleased that it seems to be taking attention away from what used to be on YouTube and getting a lot of hits, namely me singing ‘The Star Spangled Banner.’ Everybody in the world now knows I can't carry a tune,” said Clinton. “I thank heavens for small favors and the attention has shifted, and now maybe people won't have to tune in and hear me screeching about ‘The Star Spangled Banner.’”
The ad ends with an image directing viewers to Barack Obama's website.
On CNN’s “Larry King Live” Monday night, Democratic challenger Obama says the clip was not made from his team.
“It's democratization of the process,” he said. “But it's nothing we're a part of.”
Clinton, meanwhile, says the video could be a blessing in disguise.
“I think anything that drives interest in these campaigns and get people who otherwise are not at all interested in politics, I think that's pretty good,” she continued. “I might quibble a little bit about the content, but if we get more people, especially young people, thinking about politics, I'm happy about that.”
Clinton says the video is just a temporary distraction on the campaign trail.
Wednesday, a Senate panel she sits on will hear from Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who will testify about the health impact of the September 11th terrorist attacks.
It's cool she's taking it in stride & even has a sense of humor about it. I guess FOX ran this at least 5 times the day the network found out about it. No big surprise there
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What was she going to say? "Oh shit, I'm toast"?
BTW, other networks, including CBS and ABC did stories on the video, so you're implication that FOX was somehow alone in stirring this up is, once again, off base.
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It's a negative ad G-man, there will be plenty of them for the big candidates in the next two years. How candidates handle them is going to be more important then the ads themselves. Clinton handled this well but then she does have just teensy bit of experience in this arena.
Did the other networks air it at least 5 times yesterday btw?
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I don't know how many times other networks aired it. However, Fox is a 24 hour news channel and airs most stories multiple times. I would assume, but do not know, that CNN and MSNBC also ran the story multiple times. On the other hand, it would be disingenuous to expect ABC, CBS and NBC to air it as many times, given that they only do two news programs a piece: the morning talk show and the nightly news.
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From Time magazine: When Chelsea Clinton was six years old, her parents used to make her cry in hopes that they could make her tough.
Dad was in the middle of an especially ugly re-election fight, his enemies were drawing blood, and so they all tried a game at the dinner table: Chelsea would pretend that she was her father, making speeches about why people should vote for her, and then he would attack her, say really mean things, so she would learn to protect herself.
At first the exercises reduced the little girl to tears: "Why would anybody say things like that?" But after a while, Hillary later wrote, "she gradually gained mastery over her emotions"; she came to understand people's dark motives; and, finally, she would come back fighting, fully prepared to handle the wicked lies that enemies might tell. Since MEM keeps telling us on the Rudy thread that being a bad parent disqualifies a presidential candidate, I'm sure he'll want to switch his allegiences to Barack Hussein Obama or Johnny Reid Edwards now.
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Come on, Chris, tell us how intentionally making a six year old cry is somehow better than going through a divorce or having a disagreement with your ADULT children (you know, all the things you say make Rudy an unfit parent).
Surely, Media Matters or RawStory have prepared talking points for you about this. Maybe Chelsea, like a lot of abused kids, has said it didn't really bother her?
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I'm still waiting for how he'll spin the fact that Hillary used to intentionally make her six year old daughter cry her eyes out.
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Come on, Chris, tell us how intentionally making a six year old cry is somehow better than going through a divorce or having a disagreement with your ADULT children (you know, all the things you say make Rudy an unfit parent).
Rudy wasn't really there to be a parent after he hooked up with his third wife. I don't find some 3rd person story about the Clinton's dinner table really comparable to a "father" that just stops seeing his kids. That's somebody I wouldn't even invite to the house to play cards with, much less vote for him. You might be with Rudy but he's not with his kids.
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That's the best you can come up with? A supposition that Time Magazine printed a fabricated story?
Beyond that, you really want to stick with the premise that a democrat intentionally making a six year old cry is somehow better than a republican going through a divorce or having a disagreement with his ADULT children?
That's kind of...well...pathetic.
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You did read what you posted right? Were those direct quotes or 3rd person? Pretty simple to see that it was 3rd person with no sourcing that I noticed IMHO.
The Clintons were there for Chelsea & fiercely protected her. She's quoted as saying they were "fair but firm." She's now there for her mom unlike Rudy's kids. Can anyone really blame them though? What you keep calling a "disagreement" was Rudy just not being there for his kids. They were not adults at the time, I don't think his daughter has even graduated yet. (Do you think Rudy will make it to this one?)
Pathetic is when a Dad doesn't even go to his own son's graduation.
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So, we should believe your suppostion about what a great mother Hillary was over a Time magazine story that she was abusive. Surrreeee
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Come on, Chris, tell us how intentionally making a six year old cry is somehow better than going through a divorce or having a disagreement with your ADULT children (you know, all the things you say make Rudy an unfit parent).
Surely, Media Matters or RawStory have prepared talking points for you about this. Maybe Chelsea, like a lot of abused kids, has said it didn't really bother her?
Jaysis...you couldn't wait more than twenty-minutes before berating MEM over a response he hadn't even made yet?
He must really be pushing your buttons these days.
Oh, and nice pic of Hillary up top. You couldn't find one of her eating a baby?
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do you have a pic like that? please post it.
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So, we should believe your suppostion about what a great mother Hillary was over a Time magazine story that she was abusive. Surrreeee
So, whatever TIME says must be true? Is that your stance? Because, I'm damn sure I could go in and dig some negative articles about the Repubs from them. Would those automatically be true?
P.S. Let's make it clear, here and now: I am in no way for Hillary Clinton. I don't support her at all, and in no way hopes she gets elected...
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