Quote: Methos said: Sigh...I'll sum it up as briefly as I can then.
The first verse of the Bible may imply that God created a basic form of the earth before the seven days of creation, and that the seven days was spent modified and putting the finishing touches on that which he had already created. Leading to the possibility that the first seven days listed in the Bible might not be the first seven days of the planet Earth's existence - stuff might have been going on before those seven days.
Or perhaps he created it and then went down to "separate the waters". According the very first sentence, that conclusion would be much more prudent.
Doesn't that count as creating and then modifying, which is exactly what I'm proposing as a possibility?
Quote: So once again - and I really though I'd made this clear - I'm not asking if God created Earth, and I'm not out to prove whether he did or didn't. The only thing I'm speculating about is "when." Does the first verse imply that God get started on creating the world before the seven days of Creation?
Uh.....No you're not. You're going at length to argue about it. You're pretty much past any point of "offering speculation".
What great lengths? You didn't seem to get my point and I'm clarifying out of the kindness of my heart just on the off chance I hadn't made myself clear.
Quote: Methos said: No I'm not. Either you're really not getting what I'm saying, or you're not reading it carefully enough.
You said:
After all, the first line says the heavens and earth were created,
But nowhere in the seven days does it show that the world and heavens and earth were formed from out of nowhere.
More directly adressing this, the Bible, in fact, does not say it came from nowhere, but that God created it and then went to it and rearranged everything.
THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG!!!
Quote: It certianly wouldn't be a summary of a post explanation as I had asserted, but you were playing with separation of context too much for me to figure that out.
Passing the blame to me because you couldn't figure out what I was so clearly saying?
Quote: That's not at all what I'm doing.
Quote: Yes it is. You're proclaiming that because the word "beginning" isn't used multiple times throughout the explanation of the seven days that the world prolly sat their in a disarrayed mess for a long time before God came to fix it up.
Nice way of maniplating what I'm actually saying.
If this is what every discussion around here is going to be like, the hell with it. If anyone wants to debate what I'm actually saying, fine. But I'm not wasting any time trying to play clean-up because people are either too stupid to figure out what I'm saying or feel like they have to manipulate what other people say to come out on top of an argument.
It's been fun, but I've had it. Anarchy and chaos I can deal with. Deliberate idiocy...forget it.
"Just because I don't like to fight doesn't mean that I can't."
