OK, let me break this up a little because while I respect you, I think you've made some conclusions that based on assumptions rather than things I've acctually said.
but you seem to have a lot of disdain and hostility also for those who don't share or mock (at least in your view) your own beliefs
I think we definately need do differintiate between having disdain for non-Christians and a disdain for being mocked. I don't think you would lump people who were white automatically with people who mock minorities.
No, I wouldn't. Nor would I label all Christian as having disdain for non-Christians. Also, I didn't say non-Christians, but people who don't share your own beliefs. Many Christians, by my definition of Christians, would fall under that category.
For the record, I say you have disain because you've shown an sense of self-righteousnes,. For the record, so have I.
Quote: wannabuyamonkey said: I have NO disdain for you or for G-Man or Pariah (for being a Catholic rather than a Protastant). I would ask if I've ever expressed acctual disdain towards any of you? Yes i get annoyed with being mocked and I make that clear. I also recognise when someone is making a playfull joke, I laugh all the time at the ribbing Christians get on the Simpsons, but I don't find as much humor when people get overtly hostile towards me based on my faith.
Honestly, when was r3x overtly hostile towards you specifically. Many people here, including myself, saw it as a ribbing. Whether or not it was funny is up to you, but I think we can both agree there was no actual hostility.
Also, from things you've said in the past, I think the reason you can laugh at the ribbing 'Christians' get on the Simpsons is because you don't associate yourself with the overly zealous ones they target. You don't view yourself as a Telletubby (sp?) hater. I'm just saying that your example may not be an example of your willingness to laugh at others laughing at you, though I'm willing to bet you could given other circumstances.
Quote: wannabuyamonkey said: I suspect you may be viewing me through an assumption you've developed beforehand about Christians, because I think I've made my position about the next issue very clear on multiple occasions.
Believe me when I say it would be difficult for me to make an presumption about Christians.
Quote: wannabuyamonkey said: When have I EVER shown disdain for those I deem "sinners".
You've shown that you consider certain groups as beneath yourself, in my view, and that, by definition, is disdain (I should know, I googled it). For example, you believe that Jesus does not love homosexuals, do you not? And you believe that he does love you?
Quote: wannabuyamonkey said: Do you even know who I deem to be sinners, because I've made it very clear whome I deem to be sinners.
Yes, because you've made that clear.
Quote: wannabuyamonkey said: I believe WE all are sinners, at times I would dare to say that I'm chief among sinners.
I simply can't agree there.
Quote: wannabuyamonkey said: Both of your accusations seem like a blanket accusation against Christians as a whole at least as far as you recognise them. I think you just assume that I hold the same view as those you assume represent the faith. otherwise i would really like to know where and when I railed against "sinners". Perhaps it was shortly before I declared Tinky Winky the Telletubby as furthering the Gay agenda.
Again, that's not true, and again it would be difficult for me to have a blanket view of all Christians. I have a person who simply refuses to open themselves to the idea that what they believe may not be right, but that's an individual quality.
