Quote: Pariah said: However, government in general is a beast.
According to you and G-Man, this is a conservative belief, rather than something everybody who doesn't work in the government(and, apparently, even a lot of people who do) believes.
That, to me, is ludicrous.
Quote: it is very safe to say that he was talking about the nature of government.
No. It was a straightforward joke. He wasn't talking about how precisely the government he thought the government should be run, or how centralized it should be, etc. He was saying government = bad. That is a sentiment pretty much everyone shares.
I can't believe I'm having to explain basic humor to you guys. Good grief.
Quote: Because modern conservatives don't want their lives governed by government. This is opposed to liberals who want particular sanctions for every social and business issue out there. The individual citizen cannot do anything for him/herself without socialist America deciding a law should be attached to his/her whims.
This is an entirely different thread unto itself. In short, I'll say that I think you do a disservice to yourself and to liberals by trying to pass off such sweeping generalizations of incredibly complex ideologies.
Quote: This is a clear implication on your part that you thought the comment was regarding modern political extremes.
How? The quote you give of me isn't even referring to the comment. I think in the modern political world, there are many "extremists" who have blindly followed the administration, and I guess you could have perhaps extrapolated some of that from what I said...but that has very little to do with this topic, and absolutely nothing to do with Barry's remark.
Quote: Even if that strip was written 10 years ago, the 'Big Brother Conservative' label, used by the left, has been around since the mid-eighties.
Which would seem to contradict your point about me somehow referring to Bush, Jr.
Quote: You could probably say that you were just humoring G-man, but at the same time, you also bothered to try and spin the joke.
How am I the one spinning the joke, when I'm saying that I don't think it applies to any one group, and you and G-Man are saying it applies to conservatives like you?
Quote: Which is my point.
I'm so glad you said so...after I wrote it.
Quote: But your attempt at trying to spin G-man's observation by saying 'Conservatives trust in the administration' instead of just saying that the joke was "too broad" in the first place doesn't put your intent in a much better light.
I did say the joke was too broad in the first place. That's what I've been saying all along. Go back and re-read my posts.
I only brought up conservatives to counter G-Man's rather flimsy line of logic, by pointing out that, for the most part, the only people who have been vocal about their support of the government(and, in this case, defining "the government" becomes an issue) have been conservatives. In this forum, or in the news.
I never said Barry's view wasn't shared by the majority of conservatives, though. I said flat out I thought it was a basic, obvious joke that pretty much anyone would make or appreciate.
Quote: However, even in the face of my over-assumption, I'd still bet dollars to donuts that I got the context of Barry's joke right as well as South's interpretation.
I have few dollars and(sadly) no donuts, but you're probably right, since you've said that it was both too broad and not broad enough. It's pretty easy to predict what side a coin will land on when you guess heads and tails.
That was a joke. I like to make jokes.
Quote: Once again: I wasn't simply interpreting Barry's intent, but also (and primarily) South's interpretation of what it meant.
That doesn't answer my question. You applied a conservative lean to it(which you've admitted several times), but you also said it's too broad for my argument to be true, which is odd, given that my argument all along has been that it was too broad.
Quote: Also, I'd like to hear how you think the statement doesn't have a conservative lean to it
I kind of thought I just spent the last five posts or so explaining that. The whole "too broad" bit, which you seem to both agree and disagree with simultaneously.
