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All three. Thanks.

But this "fish out of water" idea Whedon just created scares me a tad bit.




Does this mean you're planning on seeing the movie?

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Wonder Woman Will Still Have Whedonesque Dialogue: “Absolutely. Wonder Woman’s perspective is very serious. But that’s what’s so funny about her. She doesn’t understand the word. She’s a fish, and this is a phrase that I’ve just come up with, who is outside of the water because she’s so pure and so focused that she comes to a world that is so compromised that she understands nothing about, of course there’s going to be humor. And she’s also an intelligent woman, but she’s not a wisecracker. But at the same time, she’s not going to miss an opportunity.”





A "fish out of water" is something he just came up with? Cause that's a new phrase and all.




He was being sarcastic.


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Wonder Woman Will Still Have Whedonesque Dialogue: “Absolutely. Wonder Woman’s perspective is very serious. But that’s what’s so funny about her. She doesn’t understand the word. She’s a fish, and this is a phrase that I’ve just come up with, who is outside of the water because she’s so pure and so focused that she comes to a world that is so compromised that she understands nothing about, of course there’s going to be humor. And she’s also an intelligent woman, but she’s not a wisecracker. But at the same time, she’s not going to miss an opportunity.”





A "fish out of water" is something he just came up with? Cause that's a new phrase and all.




He was being sarcastic.




*shrug*

What can I say- it was 4 in the morning and I hadn't gotten any sleep at that point. It's a miracle that I'm even functioning right now, as it is.



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I'll give Whedon credit for Toy Story(only because I have to), but he's done absolutely nothing else impressive.




The End of Days has come, fore I agree with the Man of Animals.

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Buffy? Astonishing? Serenity?




Stolen crap. Regurgitated crap. Stolen, regurgitated crap in space.


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It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
This is true both in politics and on the internet."

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Buffy? Astonishing? Serenity?




Stolen crap.




Really? From where? I'm not being sarcastic, I honestly don't know where the idea was "stolen" from - if it was.


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Regurgitated crap.




Like a majority of comics. Can we say All Star; Ultimate; et. al.?

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Stolen, regurgitated crap in space.




Pigs in Space?



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Buffy? Astonishing? Serenity?




Stolen crap.




Really? From where? I'm not being sarcastic, I honestly don't know where the idea was "stolen" from - if it was.




There was indy comic floating around Cali in the 80's about a Valley girl who hunted and killed vampires.

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Regurgitated crap.




Like a majority of comics.




Which would mean it's not impressive, as Annie-mall-man said. Thanks for playing.

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Pigs in Space?




He was trying to ride the style of Cowboy Bebop by blending it with the look of Oblivion and tossing in his tired dialogue from Buffy.


whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules.
It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
This is true both in politics and on the internet."

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Regurgitated crap.




Like a majority of comics.




Which would mean it's not impressive, as Annie-mall-man said. Thanks for playing.




Heh. Well, nonetheless, I'm enjoying his run on it so far. But I liked playing. Is there a consolation prize?

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Pigs in Space?




He was trying to ride the style of Cowboy Bebop by blending it with the look of Oblivion and tossing in his tired dialogue from Buffy.




Actually, that was a reference to a skit done on The Muppet Show



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But I liked playing. Is there a consolation prize?




Yes, Sharper Image's Box O'Air. The finest cardboard incased mixture of nitrogen, oxygen, an other trace gases. Manufacture Suggested Retail Price of $119.19.

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Pigs in Space?




He was trying to ride the style of Cowboy Bebop by blending it with the look of Oblivion and tossing in his tired dialogue from Buffy.




Actually, that was a reference to a skit done on The Muppet Show




Never compare the Shakespearesque Pigs in Space to a Wheadon property ever again.


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It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
This is true both in politics and on the internet."

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But I liked playing. Is there a consolation prize?




Yes, Sharper Image's Box O'Air. The finest cardboard incased mixture of nitrogen, oxygen, an other trace gases. Manufacture Suggested Retail Price of $119.19.




Damn, that's a sucky prize. What kinda game show is this?

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He was trying to ride the style of Cowboy Bebop by blending it with the look of Oblivion and tossing in his tired dialogue from Buffy.




Actually, that was a reference to a skit done on The Muppet Show




Never compare the Shakespearesque Pigs in Space to a Wheadon property ever again.




But....but I like Wheadon...

Though, PIS, was a classic... comedy gold.



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Why? Seriously, other than the "fish out of water" comment, which isn't new, what about it doesn't sit well with you?




The whole "she's not a wisecracker, but she's not going to miss an opportunity!" thing.

There are places where Whedon's "hip, neato" dialogue can fit. Wonder Woman doesn't seem like one of them, to me.

Who knows, though. Maybe he'll surprise me.

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Buffy?




An awful movie(as in, epic awful, which produced a crappy show, which produced a crappy spinoff. Never read the comics, but I'd guess they were also crappy.

I did try Fray, which I didn't think was all that bad.

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Astonishing?




Never read it.

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Serenity?




Never watched the show Firefly, and given that the movie seemed a lot more interested in spouting witty banter than actually setting up the story, I probably should have.

Not a bad movie, but I think it's kind of sad that that is what is now considered high-quality sci-fi. I chuckled a few times, spent most of the movie thinking how out of place Nathan Fillion was doing pirate-talk, and later confirmed what I feared was true as I left the theatre: that my two favorite characters in the movie were the only two that weren't in the show(Mr. Universe, and the Operative). That kind of killed any interest I had in tracking down the DVD's.

Incidentally, someone should start a thread about Serenity, whatever that is.


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It's neither a surprise nor hidden secret that I loathe everything Whedon has ever even breathed on. He, and Jeph Loeb, and Geoff Johns...all perfect examples of how medicority is the norm....

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It's neither a surprise nor hidden secret that I loathe everything Whedon has ever even breathed on. He, and Jeph Loeb, and Geoff Johns...all perfect examples of how medicority is the norm....






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I like Joss Whedon's stuff. I realize that puts me in the minority on the boards, and also invites all manner of attacks on my character for voicing my honest opinion. Oh, well. Nothing to be done about it, I suppose.


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An awful movie(as in, epic awful, which produced a crappy show, which produced a crappy spinoff. Never read the comics, but I'd guess they were also crappy.




The series I'll definitely agree with you on, but what was wrong with the movie? I, personally, thought it was funny (in a good way. Not a Whedonian way).

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I think I've already mentioned several times that I like WHedon (Buffy, Astonishing etc)

I'm not sure what I think about him doing Wonder Woman tho.


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It's neither a surprise nor hidden secret that I loathe everything Whedon has ever even breathed on.




Wait. You don't like Wheadon?




For real?




I never woulda guessed....


But here it is: First Elvis, now Whedon - where does it end, Pro? Where?

But then I read on and saw that there was hope:

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He, and Jeph Loeb, and Geoff Johns...all perfect examples of how medicority is the norm....




This we agree on (finally!). I don't like Johns, but calling Loeb "mediocre" is a fuckin' compliment. His stuff reaches a level of suckage that there are no words for.



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Why? Seriously, other than the "fish out of water" comment, which isn't new, what about it doesn't sit well with you?




The whole "she's not a wisecracker, but she's not going to miss an opportunity!" thing.

There are places where Whedon's "hip, neato" dialogue can fit. Wonder Woman doesn't seem like one of them, to me.




I see what you're saying, but I'm hoping that the hip dialogue ansd wisecracks will be made by the supporting cast and not Wondy herself, despite the above quote. I still have faith that Whedon will pull this off and make such that the fans don't end up with another Catwoman on their hands...

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Who knows, though. Maybe he'll surprise me.




I hope he does too.

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Buffy?




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An awful movie(as in, epic awful, which produced a crappy show, which produced a crappy spinoff. Never read the comics, but I'd guess they were also crappy.

I did try Fray, which I didn't think was all that bad.




The movie was bad, I'll give you that, but up until the last season, I really liked the series. And I happened to have enjoyed Fray.



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As far as the funny lines, what I think Whedon will do is give Wonder Woman the deadpan lines like Anya or Illyria had, saying something very funny without even realizing it.


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I like Joss Whedon's stuff. I realize that puts me in the minority on the boards, and also invites all manner of attacks on my character for voicing my honest opinion. Oh, well. Nothing to be done about it, I suppose.




Yes, because you liking Whedon is the main reason people make fun of you here.


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Well, more attacks on my character, anyway.


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Which character is yours? The Vampire Slayer? Or the glib space cowboy?

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Which character is yours? The Vampire Slayer? Or the glib space cowboy?




OOH! OOH!!! I wanna be the glib space cowboy!!!


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Which character is yours? The Vampire Slayer? Or the glib space cowboy?




I wanna be either Jayne Cobb or the bad-ass Wesley from the later seasons of Angel!


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Reports: Katharine McPhee Up for 'Wonder Woman' Role

    "American Idol" runner-up Katharine McPhee as "Wonder Woman"?

    Hey, it could happen.

    McPhee, who finished behind Taylor Hicks in last season's "Idol," is being considered for the big-screen version of "Wonder Woman," according to reports.



    McPhee, who's currently touring with her "Idol" counterparts, has already had a busy summer, recovering from a fractured foot and dealing with bronchitis and laryngitis which delayed her start on the "Idol" tour.

    No matter, she joins an already long list of Hollywood "Who's Who" actresses up for the role, including Sandra Bullock, Kate Beckinsale, Rebecca Romijn, Jessica Biel and Eliza Dushku, who starred in the short-lived FOX series "Tru Calling."

    Bryce Dallas Howard, the daughter of director Ron Howard, was reportedly a favorite for the role, but she's since pooh-poohed those reports.

    "I don't how I'd look in that suit," Howard said.

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No. Fuckin'. Way.

I despise her.



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Why does she have a boob on her back?


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I wouldn't worry about her getting it. This is standard Hollywood PR. The singer's agent and the studio agree to give her an audition solely to generate some buzz about the film during the long months pre-production.

Believe it or not, back in the 70s they actually did this with Neil Diamond(?) and the Superman movie.

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Why does she have a boob on her back?




Perhaps she is part camel, Rex?


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Perhaps she is part camel, Rex?




That might explain the camel toe.


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I think the sound we just heard is Pro's whoop of joy.



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I heard that Joel Silver just purchased a WWII era Wonder Woman script just days ago as well.


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I think WWII would probably be a better way to go. Certain characters, most notably WW and Capt. America, never work as well outside that era.

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Thank god...now we have a chance of it being worth watching...

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Ages ago, I wrote two scenes that I thought should be in the movie.

***

EXT - BEACH - DUSK

A beach, more of a small inlet, low tide. PAN UP to a figure in the distance, walking down to the beach.

A woman, carrying herself with a regal air.

Wrapped in a purple robe, she lowers herself down to the sand, then heads to a section of dirt and clay.

Dropping to her knees, she starts to scoop up large sections of dirt and clay with her hands.

LATER - NIGHT

The woman has set up BURNING TORCHES around the area where she is working. A small recess in the grounds has been filled with water.

The clay has been moulded into a large shape. The woman continues working on it, periodically dipping her fingers into the recess to facilitate her efforts.

The only sound is that of the WAVES BREAKING

DISSOLVE TO - LATER

The clay is taking the shape of a small humanoid - no discernible features.

DISSOLVE TO - LATER

The figure has grown more distinct.

The woman is covered in dirt, grime and her own sweat.

DISSOLVE TO - LATER

The figure is that of an infant girl, but still crude.

The woman tugs her robe in tighter against the cold of the night.

Her hands are BLEEDING from several places.

She continues, her actions taking on more urgency.

LATER - DAWN

As the first day's light touches the beach, we see the woman, obviously fatigued, trying to work as quickly and as well as possible.

The clay figure is now a perfect replica of an infant - wrinkles, fingernails, hints of lips and teeth, so forth.

Hands and arms caked with clay, dirt, grime and blood, the woman raises the figure with infinite care, while standing up.

The woman raises the figure into the dawns first ray of light.

The texture of the figure starts to grow fainter, lighter.

The woman watches as the figure transforms from clay to flesh in her very hands.

The woman lowers the now very real, but unmoving baby to her mouth, and GENTLY BREATHES near it's mouth.

The baby's mouth receives the woman's breath - and REFLEXIVELY BREATHES.

The face of the woman creases with disbelieving joy, on the knife-edge of bursting into tears as this little child moves in her hands.

The woman, still coated in the products of her exertions, is walking up the same path she descended.

She stops at the rise - and raises the tiny child into the air.

The camera PANS AROUND to show a woman, standing at attention in ancient Greek Battle armour -

- then SEVERAL MORE, dressed exactly like her -

- then SCORES -

- THEN HUNDREDS, all amassed on the plain behind the beach.

When they see the child, they give a MASSIVE ROAR OF TRIUMPH, WAVING THEIR WEAPONS, RATTLING THEIR SHIELDS.

Several SERVANTS surround the woman, passing a blanket which the woman wraps the baby in, a goblet of wine, food.

The woman looks down at her SERENELY SLEEPING CHILD.

***

EXT - DAY

A line of granite pillars on a grassy plain. We pull back slightly -

- and a METAL POINT ERUPTS out of the pillar closest to the camera lens. Each pillar has suddenly 'grown' one of these points -

- because we now see that the pillars are targets. And the points are the tips of spears thrown through each pillar, near all dead centre.

An Amazon in a white robe examines each one, then holds up a red flag next to the spear that is closest to the mark.

EXT - MONTAGE

Masked Amazons running down a track. They approach a wooden wall that is at least six feet high -

- they all vault it, like a hurdle.

Masked Amazons grunting, grimacing, as they push MASSIVE BOULDERS up a steep hill. The women in white robes - the referees - watch the proceedings with a critical eye.

Several Amazons, paired off, fiercely dueling with swords.

Adjudicators escorting - or carrying off the injured. The first aid tent has a morgue next door for convenience.

HIPPOLYTA watches the events with a faintly approving air.

A wresting match - one woman pins another in a titanic struggle, to the cheers of the crowd.

An ATTENDANT approaches HIPPOLYTA

ATTENDANT
The final trial, your Majesty. All is ready.

A MASSIVE COLOSSEUM. The seats are packed.

Seven bruised and battered Amazons - the finalists - are in the centre.

HIPPOLYTA and a retinue of six COUNCILLORS and seven ATTENDANTS enter the grounds, and the ROAR of the crowd fades to an EXPECTANT MURMURING.

The FINALISTS stand in a line, about a few yards away from HIPPOLYTA and the COUNCILLORS, the Queen flanked by three COUNCILLORS on each side, all facing a FINALIST.
ATTENDANTS, each carrying a LARGE ORNATE WOODEN BOX, each kneel in front of the Queen and her Councillors, opening their respective boxes. The contents are unseen.

As one, the FINALISTS SALUTE.

Suddenly, with practiced swiftness, the Queen and company withdraw an identical item from each box and point it at their respective FINALIST -

- a Colt M1911A1 .45 Automatic.

The Queen and company OPEN FIRE - they're firing so fast it's almost like AUTOMATIC FIRE. They're also AIMING TO KILL.

The FINALISTS are BLOCKING the BULLETS with their bracelets, their arms almost blurring with speed.

One finalist CRIES OUT, wounded in the leg. 'Her' COUNCILLOR immediately ignores her, and starts firing at the FINALIST to her left, increasing the difficulty.

HIPPOLYTA's GUN is empty. She INSTANTLY reloads from her box - which is FULL TO THE BRIM with STACKED, LOADED MAGAZINES.

ANOTHER FINALIST FALLS - DEAD from a HEADSHOT. The FINALIST next to her now has another person shooting at her.
MORE FINALISTS are wounded, and fall out of the competition - literally.

Now only the FINALIST in front of HIPPOLYTA is remaining. The SEVEN are shooting at her, only to have their shots deflected.

The look on what's visible on her masked face is Zen-Like concentration.

Eventually, the GUNS RUN DRY.

The MASKED WARRIOR removes her VISOR -

- it's DIANA. Sweating, eyes haggard. But nothing can remove the victory from her gaze.

HIPPOLYTA's GUN DROPS TO the ground.

The Queen is suddenly hit with what her daughter has done - and what she's almost done to her daughter.

Firm resolve crosses her face, and she starts to move forward, intent on inflicting the Wrath of Mother -

- when a hand clamps on her shoulder. A COUNCILLOR's expression tells HIPPOLYTA that this is something she can't control.

The crowd starts to cheer their new champion, as DIANA is surrounded by well-wishers.

And HIPPOLYTA's eyes reflect her total DESPAIR.

***

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