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I read that article you posted and one thing you fail to note, the zoo workers that noticed this found it odd that those same couples didn't have little penguins. It wasn't until they spent a lot of time trying things out that they figured out why, since penguins have no outword genetic signs. They then put those same penguins with ones of the opposite sex to change things.

My point is, doesn't mean that's right. The point in have a planet full of both male AND female species is for procreation. If homosexualty were the norm, then there would only be 1 gender on this planet, and it would have been wiped out once all of them died off.

So you've proven nothing by that statement.




It doesn't have to be all or nothing. Homosexuality doesn't have to be the norm. I'm just saying that it's natural. If 'GOD" didn't want gays and homosexuality goes against "GOD's" will, howcome animals are homosexual? Penguins mate for life. There didn't have to be no female penguins. Maybe there weren't as many female penguins as male so they just paired up anyhow. It doesn't matter. I'm not saying that homosexuality is the only way to go or that a species cannot reproduce with homosexuality when there is a two-gender society. I'm just saying people aren't the only ones to do it.

As for one gender on the planet, we all started out as asexual multi-celled organisms reproducing through cloning ourselves and getting an occasional mutation when things didn't go perfect (as does happen). I see no reason to demand heterosexual relations for a species to survive on a planet. Even if we weren't here, some of the other lower-based life forms still would be.

Just as we have evolved past our need for sugar cravings, we have evolved past our need for strictly procreational sexual relations. People crave sugar because, before it was readilly available, sugary sweet foods like berries have a lot of energy which could be useful for the survival of a young human race. Those who craved sugars survived more often it looks like. Now we still crave sugars and, in societies like America where will-power and restraint are not enforced values regarding much of anything, we eat them to excess. People die from malnutrition here by being overweight while in other places people die of malnutrition and starvation. My point is that since our evolution started to favor brain use rather than body stregnth and agility we have surpassed our basic needs. We live in surpluss. Because of modern medicine people are living twice as long as they did a couple hundred years ago. It is no longer a need to procreate ferociously in order to maintain species survival. In the Middle Ages nine of ten children would die of disease or something before reaching puberty. It was valuable for the church to teach 'be fruitful and multiply' when most of the people croaked. It was basic instinct to pop out whatever you could. In present time and in first world countries we don't have the same problems. There is no need to restrict pleasurable activities to merely their primary function. People can afford to use contraception or alternative routs of sexual stimulation, including sodomy.

Again looking at animal behaviors, there is a class of Ape that is heavy on the sex-for-pleasure attitude. I believe it's the Bonobous or something like that. The primates have been observed in captivaty and in the wild engaging in non-reproductory sexual acts with each other, supposibly merely for the pleasure they recieve doing it.

My point is, homosexuality is not unnatural or something detrimental to society in any manner.


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