Quote: PJP said: You don't think the NATO alliance would go into effect if we were invaded. It would be WWIII....even France would send us some divisions so they could quickly surrender to the Chinese.
Zuh? Why would anyone help us? In terms of non-sequitor, the borderline-hostile and tenuous situation between America and China is well known, so it wouldn't be seen as a rabid country that needs to be put down by the rest of the world.
Quote: PenWing said: China wants to be left alone in it's own, self-sufficient corner of the world. Okay, so it wants a very large corner, but it wants to be left alone. Thing is, it will need to subjugate other nations to create this little corner. In contrast, the US does need the same thing, but it goes about it a little differently. The US tries to create stable governments where people can live in freedom, and where the US can purchase what it needs. I know this is a very simplistic break down of what's going on, but sometimes things are just that...simple.
PenWing, if China wanted to be left alone, it would have stayed totally communist rather than imperlistic and communist (the ironic part is, the imperialism is killing their ability to maintain communist policies). Anyway, if it wanted to be left alone, it wouldn't trade associate with so many countries--America included. China has made quite a business out of stealing secrets from us over the past 40 years. They're worse than the Russians were in that area. Isolating themselves is the last thing on their mind.
They want a corner alright. But not as a safe and secure little fortress. But as well-placed Chess piece.
Quote: PenWing said: Fact is, we may have to give up Taiwan. We cannot allow Japan and Korea to fall into China's hands, though. Having them sign into the treaty would tell China we mean business, but it could also escalate their actions towards Taiwan. The US has to be willing to lose Taiwan to mainland China. All of this could be enough to stall further action. For a time.
As far as invasion efficiency is concerned, Japan and South Korea are just as easily taken as Taiwan. They're all crucial vantage points, what creates your average for Taiwan being lowest on the priority list?
