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Pariah said:
The main problem with r3x's post is that lays a whole bunch of arguments down that assume too much. He's like the poster-child of modern stereotypes.


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Those weren't the first civilizations. Pre-flood strata has shown that civilization pre-dated those cultures. And that subscribes to the account of the Old Testament.


okay, I was making a point about old civilizations. But following your flood theory then it only proves my point.
Those people weren't christians and most likely had laws and a moral structure.

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They had laws, but they didn't have morals. The concept of "morals" or even basic individual rights is derived from religion.


Laws by design are based on accepted morals in society.

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Through anlysis made by paleontology as well as geology, the case for the Old Testament has been constantly reinforced. It's already been proven that there was a world-wide flood and the same goes for the demolishing of Sodom and Gamorrah. The New Testament's already been proven by historians to be an accurate account.


Certain events have coroborating evidence that they happened, but no proof as to cause or individuals.

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Tell me, where has it been used to "justify death and misery" as opposed to the majority of past secular cultures?


the Crusades.

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R3-cool said:
and the jews? wasn't it mainly Christians who have persecuted them over the last few thousand years.



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No.



actually during the middle ages Jews were better treated in Muslim cities than Christian. The Muslims allowed them to live and practice their religions as long as they didn't mess with or insult the Muslim faith.
In Christian cities the Jews were forced to convert, hide as "secret" Jews, or were exiled.

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I don't see the relevence. It's the convincing that's the issue, not what they try to convince people of.


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