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Details we can't quite comprehend By Nicole BrodeurLike me, you may have spent the past few days starting questions that you just couldn't finish out loud.
Questions about the man, the horse and the goings-on at that farm in Enumclaw. Why would he ... ?
And then, how did they ... ?
But then, wouldn't it ... ?
There are answers, to be sure. Just none I can print here.
But this I can: On July 2, a 45-year-old Seattle man died from something called acute peritonitis. His colon was perforated while he was having sex with a horse.
The man, who died before he was dropped off at Enumclaw Community Hospital, was traced back to a 40-acre farm where investigators found hundreds of hours of videotape depicting men, including the one who died, having sex with horses. He had bought the stallion earlier this year. His family told a reporter they were surprised at the purchase.
Now we all are surprised — flabbergasted, really — at what was apparently going on down there while the rest of us were home reading John Irving, foolishly believing that Paris and Nicole milking cows on "The Simple Life" was as perverted as a farm ever gets.
Can someone tell me why a person would want to have sex with a horse?
"And you were referred to me?" asked Maureen Saylor when I called.
She seemed a logical choice. Saylor is a certified sex-offender-treatment provider and a psychiatric nurse who used to run the sex-offender program at Western State Hospital in Tacoma.
There is no profile for someone who has sex with animals.
"It's like sex offenders in general," Saylor said. "A broad spectrum of individuals engaging in sex-offender behavior. High risk, low risk, a single offense or many."
Bestiality is identified in the diagnostic manual as paraphilia, a term used for various sexual deviations.
Over the years, Saylor has interviewed people who, in addition to whatever other sex offenses they have committed, tried to have sex with some kind of animal.
"I have no idea what the percentage is," she said. "But maybe it's something teenaged boys try for a lark and see how far it goes.
"It certainly is an aberration," Saylor said, calling it animal abuse. "But it is hardly new. It has been around probably as long as man."
And yet, bestiality is not against state law here.
Which leads to one more question: Are you kidding me?
King County Sheriff Sue Rahr told me about a case she investigated 15 years ago in which a boy was having sex with the family dog. No law against it.
"It was a real surprise to me," Rahr said. "We need to take a serious look at what the options are here."
State Sen. Pam Roach, R-Auburn, is already on it. She plans to draft legislation this week making bestiality illegal. Great, let's get it on the books.
But out of our heads, our conversations, our questions? That may take a while.
Nicole Brodeur's column appears Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday. Reach her at 206-464-2334 or nbrodeur@seattletimes.com.
For once, she's got nothing.
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 Dear, sweet Harley Kwink...I'm madly in love with you. Marry me! We can go to Canadia. Or Boston or something. It'll be grand...You know the cookies are a given. They are ALWAYS a given. You could dump me tomorrow and you'd still get the cookies. Boston..shit, wherever dyke weddings were legalized. And where better to rub their little piggie noses in how bad they suck than right on their doorstep? What are they gonna do? Be jealous of you? Stare furiously at your tah-tahs? Not willingly give you cookies, but instead begrudgingly give you their cookies? Woman, time to wake up to the powers you wield - Uschi
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he just couldn't stand the thought of life without his beloved PJP.
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Brian Jonopolous, we hardly knew ye. (ain't that the truth!)
No, it ain't. My sources say you knew him biblically.
Uschi said:I won't rape you, I'll just fuck you 'till it hurts and then not stop and you'll cry. MisterJLA: RACKS so hard, he called Jim Rome "Chris Everett." In Him, all porn is possible. He is far above mentions in so-called "blogs." RACK him, lest ye be lost! "I can't even brush my teeth without gagging!" - Tommy Tantillo: Wank & Cry, heckpuppy, and general laughingstock
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Brian Jonopolous, we hardly knew ye. (ain't that the truth!)
No, it ain't. My sources say you knew him biblically.
your "sources." right. the same ones who told you the moon was made of cheese, Joe?
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Brian Jonopolous, we hardly knew ye. (ain't that the truth!)
No, it ain't. My sources say you knew him biblically.
your "sources." right. the same ones who told you the moon was made of cheese, Joe?
Truth hurts, don't it? I dunno where you get the "moon is made of cheese" comment (...shut up... ), but I DO know that my sources have you and poor dead Rex screaming "Beget me!!!" to each other one magical night. I notice you aren't denying it. PJP's gonna be pissed when I reveal that to him - you can kiss your cabinet position goodbye. I wonder if he'll consider consolidating the Ministries Of Intoxication and Ass-Whoopery...
Uschi said:I won't rape you, I'll just fuck you 'till it hurts and then not stop and you'll cry. MisterJLA: RACKS so hard, he called Jim Rome "Chris Everett." In Him, all porn is possible. He is far above mentions in so-called "blogs." RACK him, lest ye be lost! "I can't even brush my teeth without gagging!" - Tommy Tantillo: Wank & Cry, heckpuppy, and general laughingstock
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Brian Jonopolous, we hardly knew ye. (ain't that the truth!)
No, it ain't. My sources say you knew him biblically.
your "sources." right. the same ones who told you the moon was made of cheese, Joe?
Truth hurts, don't it? I dunno where you get the "moon is made of cheese" comment (...shut up... ), but I DO know that my sources have you and poor dead Rex screaming "Beget me!!!" to each other one magical night. I notice you aren't denying it. PJP's gonna be pissed when I reveal that to him - you can kiss your cabinet position goodbye. I wonder if he'll consider consolidating the Ministries Of Intoxication and Ass-Whoopery...
riiiighht. the same sources that told you that drilling a hole in your forehead would get rid of your headache?
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The headache's gone, isn't it?
Uschi said:I won't rape you, I'll just fuck you 'till it hurts and then not stop and you'll cry. MisterJLA: RACKS so hard, he called Jim Rome "Chris Everett." In Him, all porn is possible. He is far above mentions in so-called "blogs." RACK him, lest ye be lost! "I can't even brush my teeth without gagging!" - Tommy Tantillo: Wank & Cry, heckpuppy, and general laughingstock
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That's just because Rex pleasured himself into a sock....you can stop faking it now.
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is it, Joe? is it?

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That's just because Rex pleasured himself into a sock....you can stop faking it now.

Don't slander poor dead Rex! D'you want his tortured soul haunting you for the rest of your days? No you don't - who wants to pull on a seemingly clean sock, only to get a foot-full of ectoplasm?

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Uschi said:I won't rape you, I'll just fuck you 'till it hurts and then not stop and you'll cry. MisterJLA: RACKS so hard, he called Jim Rome "Chris Everett." In Him, all porn is possible. He is far above mentions in so-called "blogs." RACK him, lest ye be lost! "I can't even brush my teeth without gagging!" - Tommy Tantillo: Wank & Cry, heckpuppy, and general laughingstock
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Poor, dead, rex will be happy to know that PETA has weighed in on his death: PETA president Ingrid Newkirk ...defended ...bestiality. "If a girl gets sexual pleasure from riding a horse, does the horse suffer? If not, who cares? If you French kiss your dog and he or she thinks it's great, is it wrong? We believe all exploitation and abuse is wrong…If it isn't exploitation and abuse, it may not be wrong."
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Rob Kamphausen said: Details we can't quite comprehend By Nicole Brodeur
Like me, you may have spent the past few days starting questions that you just couldn't finish out loud.
Questions about the man, the horse and the goings-on at that farm in Enumclaw. Why would he ... ?
And then, how did they ... ?
But then, wouldn't it ... ?
There are answers, to be sure. Just none I can print here.
But this I can: On July 2, a 45-year-old Seattle man died from something called acute peritonitis. His colon was perforated while he was having sex with a horse.
The man, who died before he was dropped off at Enumclaw Community Hospital, was traced back to a 40-acre farm where investigators found hundreds of hours of videotape depicting men, including the one who died, having sex with horses. He had bought the stallion earlier this year. His family told a reporter they were surprised at the purchase.
Now we all are surprised — flabbergasted, really — at what was apparently going on down there while the rest of us were home reading John Irving, foolishly believing that Paris and Nicole milking cows on "The Simple Life" was as perverted as a farm ever gets.
Can someone tell me why a person would want to have sex with a horse?
"And you were referred to me?" asked Maureen Saylor when I called.
She seemed a logical choice. Saylor is a certified sex-offender-treatment provider and a psychiatric nurse who used to run the sex-offender program at Western State Hospital in Tacoma.
There is no profile for someone who has sex with animals.
"It's like sex offenders in general," Saylor said. "A broad spectrum of individuals engaging in sex-offender behavior. High risk, low risk, a single offense or many."
Bestiality is identified in the diagnostic manual as paraphilia, a term used for various sexual deviations.
Over the years, Saylor has interviewed people who, in addition to whatever other sex offenses they have committed, tried to have sex with some kind of animal.
"I have no idea what the percentage is," she said. "But maybe it's something teenaged boys try for a lark and see how far it goes.
"It certainly is an aberration," Saylor said, calling it animal abuse. "But it is hardly new. It has been around probably as long as man."
And yet, bestiality is not against state law here.
Which leads to one more question: Are you kidding me?
King County Sheriff Sue Rahr told me about a case she investigated 15 years ago in which a boy was having sex with the family dog. No law against it.
"It was a real surprise to me," Rahr said. "We need to take a serious look at what the options are here."
State Sen. Pam Roach, R-Auburn, is already on it. She plans to draft legislation this week making bestiality illegal. Great, let's get it on the books.
But out of our heads, our conversations, our questions? That may take a while.
Nicole Brodeur's column appears Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday. Reach her at 206-464-2334 or [Email]nbrodeur@seattletimes.com.[/Email]
For once, she's got nothing.
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That shit is sick. I don't care how willing the animal might be (the commonly used argument). If you're so fucking deperate you need to hump your dog....just shoot yourelf.
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rex said: STOP JUDGING ME!
Rex, for all of your flaws....even you are above dog fucking. It's a truely sad waste of flesh that fucks an animal.
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Yes. Plastic doesn't feel. Plastic knows not of the pain and of being placed in one's colon.
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PCG342 said: Yes. Plastic doesn't feel. Plastic knows not of the pain and of being placed in one's colon.
Good to see an actual expert weigh in on the issue. The rest of you who are just speculating can shut up now.
Uschi said:I won't rape you, I'll just fuck you 'till it hurts and then not stop and you'll cry. MisterJLA: RACKS so hard, he called Jim Rome "Chris Everett." In Him, all porn is possible. He is far above mentions in so-called "blogs." RACK him, lest ye be lost! "I can't even brush my teeth without gagging!" - Tommy Tantillo: Wank & Cry, heckpuppy, and general laughingstock
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