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have you ever heard of Arab-Americans? That is, people of Arabic descent who are American citizens or have even lived here their whole lives.
Your point? Foreign Arab terrorists have many Arab American sympathizers. The footage of the Arab communities in New York celebrating the destruction of the Twin Towers with the kids, and their parents, running through the streets with confetti and laughter is proof of them being no exception.
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yeah, I would love to see the case where they profiled and detained white people in the south.
Thank you for avoiding the point. It would be stupid not to suspect that it was prolly Whitey who did it.
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Well, Jews are white (I know that hurts, but it's true).
More violent extremities propogate from segregated African Americans than Jews, so your average doesn't work.
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wait. do you mean raided as in police raided or do you mean broken in to or some sort of violent attack?
Violent attack.
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r3x29yz4a said:yeah, I would love to see the case where they profiled and detained white people in the south.
Richard Jewell comes to mind
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Your point? Foreign Arab terrorists have many Arab American sympathizers. The footage of the Arab communities in New York celebrating the destruction of the Twin Towers with the kids, and their parents, running through the streets with confetti and laughter is proof of them being no exception.
I don't think such footage exists (at least I've never seen it). I do know there was a celebration dance thing video from an Arabic country. But that shouldn't be something you base your entire view of Arabs on.
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Thank you for avoiding the point. It would be stupid not to suspect that it was prolly Whitey who did it.
and I'm saying that pretty much never happens. Racial profiling is pretty much against non-whites.
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More violent extremities propogate from segregated African Americans than Jews, so your average doesn't work.
so, you're singling out the blacks in a given region over the jews because of your perceptions that black people are more likely to be violent?
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Violent attack.
then my point stands. Jews are just as much targets of the KKK as blacks.
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r3x29yz4a said:yeah, I would love to see the case where they profiled and detained white people in the south.
Richard Jewell comes to mind
not the same thing. they singled him out because they were looking into the people who had access (and he was a security guard there) and he raised some red flags and they jumped the gun.
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A terrorist bombing occurs and a threat was sent in before hand by someone proclaiming Jihad. Who is "more likely" to be the cause for this? An American or a Arab?
If a black Baptist Church set fire in the Eastern part of the Bible Belt, would it not be logical to suspect someone white? Prolly the type who's an inbred hick?
If a Nazi pride meeting was raided in a racially mixed area, who're you gonna suspect more when narrowing down who did it? White people or black people?
That's very sad, Pariah. Seriously.
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If a Nazi pride meeting was raided in a racially mixed area, who're you gonna suspect more when narrowing down who did it? White people or black people?
Um....normal white people, jewish people, hispanics, blacks, asians, middle easterners etc. etc.
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i think what Pariah is trying to say is that it's really hard to not racially profile blacks because to him they all look alike.
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I don't think such footage exists (at least I've never seen it). I do know there was a celebration dance thing video from an Arabic country. But that shouldn't be something you base your entire view of Arabs on.
Your right, It wasn't in New York. In any event though, my point stands. If there's a structure of terrorist cells in conjunction with typical Muslim demands and mannerism, who're you gonna have more conviction to suspect? Simply saying "terrorists" isn't gonna cut it BTW.
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and I'm saying that pretty much never happens. Racial profiling is pretty much against non-whites.
Yeah. "Pretty much". 
r3x, if you think that they'd really suspect, from the get go, someone who's [not white/racist towards blacks] had done something like that in such an area, then you need to get your head checked....Or kicked--Either way it works. Whether or not they're prosecuted is irrelevent in the face of suspicion.
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so, you're singling out the blacks in a given region over the jews because of your perceptions that black people are more likely to be violent?
My "views"? That's the way it is. Segregated African Americans are the most violently motivated and the most sensitive to racial differences. The other minorities don't give a shit as they do because of their harvested mentality of "blacks have gotta stick together".
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Your right, It wasn't in New York. In any event though, my point stands. If there's a structure of terrorist cells in conjunction with typical Muslim demands and mannerism, who're you gonna have more conviction to suspect? Simply saying "terrorists" isn't gonna cut it BTW.
There's a big difference between a group of immigrant Arabs celebrating in a U.S. city where thousands have just died and Arabs in their own country celebrating.
It's no difference than Pro-war rallies here celebrating the fall of Saddam. Because in Iraq I bet they looked at their wounded and dead civilians lying in the street and were pissed to see us throwing parties.
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Yeah. "Pretty much".
r3x, if you think that they'd really suspect, from the get go, someone who's [not white/racist towards blacks] had done something like that in such an area, then you need to get your head checked....Or kicked--Either way it works. Whether or not they're prosecuted is irrelevent in the face of suspicion.
I'm not even sure what your point is. But there has never been a point where police would pull over a group of innocent white people driving along just because they were white. It's different to pull over a group of skinheads after an act of violence against blacks because the shaved heads mark them as well, skinheads.
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My "views"? That's the way it is. Segregated African Americans are the most violently motivated and the most sensitive to racial differences.
obviously you've never been around a group of Japanese-Americans talking about WWII internment camps.
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The other minorities don't give a shit as they do because of their harvested mentality of "blacks have gotta stick together".
I've known plenty of people of varying ethnicities and I can say for certain that I can recall more white and latin people expressing that sentiment.
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Pariah, you are a biggoted and small minded person. This is something I've seen from you on other threads. Dress it up with as many facts and figures to support your predjudice all you want, but it won't change what you are.
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Tell me guys: Which one looks more like a terrorist to you?
The one with the gun who's hiding his identity. What the fuck does race have to do with it? Flawed question, Pariah.
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Your right, It wasn't in New York. In any event though, my point stands. If there's a structure of terrorist cells in conjunction with typical Muslim demands and mannerism, who're you gonna have more conviction to suspect? Simply saying "terrorists" isn't gonna cut it BTW.
Not for you, no, because race and nationality has to be involved.
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My "views"? That's the way it is. Segregated African Americans are the most violently motivated and the most sensitive to racial differences. The other minorities don't give a shit as they do because of their harvested mentality of "blacks have gotta stick together".
Are you mad? Really. Not angry-mad, mind you. I think you're crazy. You have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA what you're talking about here, and the more you talk about it the dumber you look.
The most violently motivated? "Blacks have gotta stick together"? Jeebus, what bubble do you live in?
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I think he's Mad as hell and probably going to keep on taking it.
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I think he's Mad as hell and probably going to keep on taking it.
Well those tranny pics he likes to post certainly tells me just where he'd like to take it.....
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Not for you, no, because race and nationality has to be involved.
Re-word this for me.
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Are you mad? Really. Not angry-mad, mind you. I think you're crazy. You have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA what you're talking about here, and the more you talk about it the dumber you look.
The most violently motivated? "Blacks have gotta stick together"? Jeebus, what bubble do you live in?
Wednesday, you ever been to Los Angeles? I'm sure you understand what "gang mentality" means. I'm not saying this is some sort of universal or inherited trait. It's a festered wound within segregation.
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There's a big difference between a group of immigrant Arabs celebrating in a U.S. city where thousands have just died and Arabs in their own country celebrating.
It's no difference than Pro-war rallies here celebrating the fall of Saddam. Because in Iraq I bet they looked at their wounded and dead civilians lying in the street and were pissed to see us throwing parties.
Don't avoid the argument. I moved on from the celebrations in the streets. I was merely trying to accentuate the point since I thought it was in New York. That doesn't mean my argument is totally dependent on it.
Terrorist cells in America with the same motivations as Osama, to name a name, are 95% likely to be Arab. Period.
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I'm not even sure what your point is. But there has never been a point where police would pull over a group of innocent white people driving along just because they were white. It's different to pull over a group of skinheads after an act of violence against blacks because the shaved heads mark them as well, skinheads.
No....It's not. That's racial profiling right there. Thank you for proving my point.
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obviously you've never been around a group of Japanese-Americans talking about WWII internment camps.
Please refer to me a constant stream of cases where Japanese-Americans decided to resort to gang violence due to their ethnicity.
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I've known plenty of people of varying ethnicities and I can say for certain that I can recall more white and latin people expressing that sentiment.
He said. She said.
I've grown up around Mexican gang-bangers for about 13 years. Whilst they're not above racial slurs, they're also not prone to enforcing any sort of gang dominance based on race alone.
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The one with the gun who's hiding his identity. What the fuck does race have to do with it? Flawed question, Pariah.
It's called "face value" Danny. "Racial profiling" isn't just about race--Although that's a big part of it. Garb makes the averages as well as skin color.
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No....It's not. That's racial profiling right there. Thank you for proving my point.
Stopping skinheads is not racial profiling, you idiot. Its profiling based on shaved heads (which skinheads have).
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Skin-heads are white dumbass. And for someone with a shaved head to be considered a nazi, they'd first have to be identified as caucasion.
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Skin-heads are white dumbass. And for someone with a shaved head to be considered a nazi, they'd first have to be identified as caucasion.
We're talking the difference between picking up a bunch of white people because nazis are white, or picking up a bunch of skinheads because neo-nazis shave their heads.
It's like if there were a gang shooting and the cops picked up all the black people in the neighborhood bersus all the blacks in gang colors.
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I shave my head...and I'm the farthest you could get from being a Nazi. I'm just too lazy to comb my hair every morning.
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I shave my head...and I'm the farthest you could get from being a Nazi. I'm just too lazy to comb my hair every morning.
and I had a shaved head too. But my friends didn't. And if they all had shaved heads and we were all cruising around an area where skinheads had attacked someone it would be perfectly reasonable to be stopped by the police.
And it wouldn't be based on our race, it'd be based on our appearance.
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And it wouldn't be based on our race, it'd be based on our appearance.
However, "race" affects appearance, does it not?
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Race doesn't effect whether or not you shave your head.
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Whilst
"Whilst" is archaic. It's "while."
Unless you like looking like a pretentious kid.
Oh....
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Pariah--
Shut the fuck up on subjects (i.e. blacks, gangs--fuck it, most anything) you know jackshit about. Watching "Boyz n the Hood" and "Colors" doesn't make you an expert on shit, you racist little bastard.
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Pariah--
Shut the fuck up on subjects (i.e. blacks, gangs--fuck it, most anything) you know jackshit about. Watching "Boyz n the Hood" and "Colors" doesn't make you an expert on shit, you racist little bastard.
I just laughed so much it hurts!
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We're talking the difference between picking up a bunch of white people because nazis are white, or picking up a bunch of skinheads because neo-nazis shave their heads.
I'm sorry if you can't grasp onto the fact that the people involved, who shaved their heads, would first have to be recognized as white before they could come to the conclusion that they were neo-nazis due to their lack of hair. Even if it's not rounding off the numbers (i.e. pinning all white people as suspects), it's still a scenario where race is a high factor.
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It's like if there were a gang shooting and the cops picked up all the black people in the neighborhood bersus all the blacks in gang colors.
Wearing gang colors isn't an extension of racial symbolism. Shaved white heads are.
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Race doesn't effect whether or not you shave your head.
That all depends on the context of the scenario.
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Pariah--
Shut the fuck up on subjects (i.e. blacks, gangs--fuck it, most anything) you know jackshit about. Watching "Boyz n the Hood" and "Colors" doesn't make you an expert on shit, you racist little bastard.
We can also include "anything to do with gays or homosexuality" as a topic you know nothing about and should just stay silent about.
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skinhead
a group of skinheads
a guy with a shaved head
a group of guys with shaved heads.
Michael Stipe?
Having a shaved head does not make you a skinhead any more than having a shaved head while black or brown makes you a gang member.
Now wearing white suspenders with the shaved head, wearing 20 hole Doc martens with white laces, wearing an iron cross, swastikas etc. with a shaved head.. hmmmm 
Now having a shaved head with a big 13 tatooed on your head, a teardrop on your eye, your gang affiliation tatooed on your neck, wearing gang colors and attire WITH your shaved head. Now those might be clues as well....
Jeezus! 
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It's called "face value" Danny. "Racial profiling" isn't just about race--Although that's a big part of it. Garb makes the averages as well as skin color.
If "racial profiling" isn't just about race, then it's just profiling. Which is a different thing.
You can't even really tell what race the guy in the first pic is.
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Jeezus!
No, I don't think Mistah J ever shaved his head... 
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Whilst
"Whilst" is archaic. It's "while."
Unless you like looking like a pretentious kid.
Oh....
Whilst may be archaic in American English, it's pretty common in British English. I wouldn't be surprised if Canadians use it too.
The rest of the post I agree with.
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I shave my head...and I'm the farthest you could get from being a Nazi. I'm just too lazy to comb my hair every morning.
Then you must be Gay!
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Having a shaved head does not make you a skinhead any more than having a shaved head while black or brown makes you a gang member.
Now wearing white suspenders with the shaved head, wearing 20 hole Doc martens with white laces, wearing an iron cross, swastikas etc. with a shaved head.. hmmmm
Now having a shaved head with a big 13 tatooed on your head, a teardrop on your eye, your gang affiliation tatooed on your neck, wearing gang colors and attire WITH your shaved head. Now those might be clues as well....
Jeezus!
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Danny said:
If "racial profiling" isn't just about race, then it's just profiling. Which is a different thing.
You can't even really tell what race the guy in the first pic is.
Maybe you missed the part where I said Garb is a factor among ethnicities. Is your first guess gonna be that the guy behind that cloth, who's making threats on the behalf of Islam and Allah, isn't Arab?
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