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magicjay38 said: Maybe you haven't been keeping up with current events. The 2 largest terrorist attacks within the continental USA were the 9/11 events and the Oklahoma City bombing. The former was committed by men of Arabic extraction and the latter by a white guy. Sounds like even odds to me!
But when you consider the first WTC attack in 1993, which was also committed men of Arabic extraction, you end up with two out of three terrorist attacks being committed by men of Arabic extraction.
And if you broaden your criteria to attacks on American targets outside the continental US, you have to consider, for example, the Achille Lauro, the marine barracks in Lebanon, the Libyan disco attack, the Iranian hostage crisis, the USS Cole, etc. All perpetrated by men of Arabic extraction.
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r3x29yz4a said: no, they aren't. the Quaran is as violent as the bible.
The Bible is not as violent as the Quran. In fact, it doesn't preach violence at all. Please tell me how the Bible teaches hatred and violence.
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not true. In fact, if you looked into it you'd find the Islamic teachings (not extremist readings of it) denounce killing innocents.
No, "if you looked into it", you'd see that modern Islamic teachers steer away from the orthodox principles of Qur'an that preach violence. In which case, they're rearranging their own religion (not to say it's a bad thing). The actions of the terrorists haven't been considered "extreme" ever. Never in its thousands of years of use has the purpose of Jihad been taken out of context. It's always remained in the same context. Even so however, Whether or not this was truly a millennia-long misinterpretation or just the way Jihad was supposed to be done, the ever present fact here is that the religion has been defined by this inclusion with its constant proponed use.
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terrorists get around it by saying the west is an evil threat and therefore not innocent.
Again, by their own doctrine, they're not being extreme.
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which is racism.
No. It's not.
Every detail about a person needs to be noted. Especially race.
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also, keep in mind that Islam is the second largest religion in the world, covering many many countries.
I'm not exactly sure what this is supposed to mean.
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I have never heard of a non-christian bombing a clinic.
.....Uh...Okay. What does that have to do with making sure to note that the person suspected of being apart of the bombing is Christian?
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same as how wearing traditional robes is too broad. figure how many muslims there are in the U.S. versus how many (even by exagerated terms of Bush) terrorists there are in the country.
Shrouds that cover 90% of a person's head is not broad worn attire.
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to hide their identities? are you insane or just stupid?
What other reason would they have been worn for when they were video-taped executing soldiers and reporters?
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it's traditional muslim wear. and the ammount of robes worn varies by country. and if you look at the 9/11 hijackers, they weren't wearing robes.
So does this mean you see a lot of guys in the US wear shrouds over their heads?
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magicjay38 said: Maybe you haven't been keeping up with current events. The 2 largest terrorist attacks within the continental USA were the 9/11 events and the Oklahoma City bombing. The former was committed by men of Arabic extraction and the latter by a white guy. Sounds like even odds to me!
Face it guys, if a terrorist weapon has your name on it there is little anyone can do to protect you. Security is an illusion. But cheer up, you're much more likely to die by auto than by bomb.
the one thing we can all agree on is that no terrorist has been influences by video games or violent movies. it's all about the religious books.
Acctually MacVey never said anything about religion.
Putting the "fun" back in Fundamentalist Christian Dogma.
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magicjay38 said: Maybe you haven't been keeping up with current events. The 2 largest terrorist attacks within the continental USA were the 9/11 events and the Oklahoma City bombing. The former was committed by men of Arabic extraction and the latter by a white guy. Sounds like even odds to me!
Face it guys, if a terrorist weapon has your name on it there is little anyone can do to protect you. Security is an illusion. But cheer up, you're much more likely to die by auto than by bomb.
the one thing we can all agree on is that no terrorist has been influences by video games or violent movies. it's all about the religious books.
Acctually MacVey never said anything about religion.
he was influenced by the raid on David Koresh. Look at the guy. He's obviously not an atheist.
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magicjay38 said: Maybe you haven't been keeping up with current events. The 2 largest terrorist attacks within the continental USA were the 9/11 events and the Oklahoma City bombing. The former was committed by men of Arabic extraction and the latter by a white guy. Sounds like even odds to me!
Face it guys, if a terrorist weapon has your name on it there is little anyone can do to protect you. Security is an illusion. But cheer up, you're much more likely to die by auto than by bomb.
the one thing we can all agree on is that no terrorist has been influences by video games or violent movies. it's all about the religious books.
Acctually MacVey never said anything about religion.
he was influenced by the raid on David Koresh. Look at the guy. He's obviously not an atheist.
I never heard him mention the raid on Koresh and even if he did most people who took issue with that weren't members of his cult, but I like how you try to prove his religious beliefs by basing it on PROFILING!
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Texas becomes fourth state to have non-white majority population
Texas has become the fourth state to have a non-white majority population, the U.S. Census Bureau said Thursday, a trend driven by a surging number of Hispanics moving to the state, the AP's Alicia Caldwell is set to report late Wednesday night for Thursday newspapers. Excerpts follow...
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According to the population estimates based on the 2000 Census, about 50.2 percent of Texans are now minorities. In the 2000 Census, minorities made up about 47 percent of the population in the second-largest state.
Texas joins California, New Mexico and Hawaii as states with majority-minority populations — with Hispanics the largest group in every state but Hawaii, where it is Asian-Americans.
Five other states — Maryland, Mississippi, Georgia, New York and Arizona — aren't far behind, with about 40 percent minorities.
Great.
This should drive up the fear factor among the reactionaries.
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I never heard him mention the raid on Koresh
Then you weren't listening.
Koresh's compound was destroyed on April 19, 1993. McVeigh chose Apr. 19, 1995, to bomb the Murrah Building in OK City because of his anger over how the Koresh situation in Waco was handled.
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I never heard him mention the raid on Koresh
Then you weren't listening.
Koresh's compound was destroyed on April 19, 1993. McVeigh chose Apr. 19, 1995, to bomb the Murrah Building in OK City because of his anger over how the Koresh situation in Waco was handled.
Allright then. In that case my following comments apply.
But out of curriosity, did HE ever mention Koresh or was this just attributed to him due to the significance of the date?
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wannabuyamonkey said: But out of curriosity, did HE ever mention Koresh or was this just attributed to him due to the significance of the date?
http://www.nationalist.org/docs/history/mcveigh.html http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/notorious/mcveigh/transit_6.html?sect=1 http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/crime/terrorists/timothy-mcveigh/
He supported and respected Koresh's position. It's vague on how religios he is, but I've never heard of one of these overly anti-government "freeman" types who isn't deeply christian.
Acctually some of them are Ayn Rand type athiests. I'm glad to see you see the value of profiling though.
I'm not profiling the man based on his race, but making educated guesses based on his associates and politics. Like I can make a guess that a man preaching abstinence and the evils of abortions, I can assume he's one of them christians.
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Maybe you haven't been keeping up with current events. The 2 largest terrorist attacks within the continental USA were the 9/11 events and the Oklahoma City bombing. The former was committed by men of Arabic extraction and the latter by a white guy. Sounds like even odds to me!
But when you consider the first WTC attack in 1993, which was also committed men of Arabic extraction, you end up with two out of three terrorist attacks being committed by men of Arabic extraction.
I said the 2 largest, not the 3. In terms of the loss of life and property damage, the '92 WTC attack is not in the same league as the other 2.
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And if you broaden your criteria to attacks on American targets outside the continental US, you have to consider, for example, the Achille Lauro, the marine barracks in Lebanon, the Libyan disco attack, the Iranian hostage crisis, the USS Cole, etc. All perpetrated by men of Arabic extraction.
A few problems with this statement. The Achille Lauro was a ship of Italian registry, not USA. The Lebanon Marine Barracks? Some might call that a legitimate military target during war time. At any rate it drove out the occupying forces. Iranian hostage crises? Iranians are not Arabs. They're Persians. Most people can tell the difference by looking. They also speak Farsi, not Arabic. Finally the USS Cole was a warship. Sounds like a legitimate target to me.
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That mean we can lock up them uppity neee-grows agin?
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