I just quoted a Rumsfeld interview on PBS a few days ago, on page 45 of the "It's not about oil or Iraq..." topic
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The difference between Boxer's and Rumsfeld's public comments is:

Barbara Boxer advocates pulling out immediately after the Iraqi election (today, Dec 15th), whether the Iraqis are ready or not. That they should be ready and trained to defend themselves, and if they can't, too fucking bad, we're leaving. Let them sink or swim on their own at this point.

Donald Rumsfeld advocates that we think we can start to pull out troops after the election and are planning to do that. But if the Iraqis need us, no guarantees of pullout, we're ready to back them up all the way.



Also, when you place Barbara Boxer's remarks next to those of other Democrat leaders such as Howard Dean and Dick Durbin, it is difficult to see Boxer's remarks as anything but a continuation of the daily slander of the Bush administration's policy in Iraq, and another attempt to paint it as a bungled operation we need to withdraw in failure from.

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